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I think that is Marty (Johnny) Sheffield. I thought he and his wife were moving to TN. I remember reading that a few weeks ago.
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06-26-2009, 06:18 PM
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Of course, KP is going to try to spin the searches. Do I believe her? No way!
I do believe someone in the family did request them...but not a chance that this was done to dispel lingering accusations with the manpower they have on this. There is a lot more to it and KP can try to make people believe her clients asked for it...but I am not falling for it.
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She just said that the family asked it to dispel lingering accusations. That's not the same as claiming LE did it to dispel lingering accusations. Obviously they have to check any relevant leads and knowledge of recent burial sites on relatives property is a relevant lead.
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Has anyone checked to see if LE had Search Warrants? It will be most interesting to find out and to read the reasons given for them. 
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06-26-2009, 06:22 PM
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Has anyone checked to see if LE had Search Warrants? It will be most interesting to find out and to read the reasons given for them. |
There was no warrant
Piscitello declined to comment if Sheffield and her family had advance notice of the search, but he said they signed a consent form allowing officers to come onto the property without a search warrant.
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/met...amily_property
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06-26-2009, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bern
I think that is Marty (Johnny) Sheffield. I thought he and his wife were moving to TN. I remember reading that a few weeks ago.
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Johnny is maternal grandfather, not greatgrandfather.
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06-26-2009, 06:31 PM
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I don't know but the acres don't seem to add up.
http://bakercountypress.com/index.ph...2322&Itemid=79 says:
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The search area encompassed 45 acres and three ponds and work began about 10:00 am.
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30 acres plus 25 acres makes 55 acres, not 45.
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06-26-2009, 06:35 PM
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I see nothing significant found yet. Is it true that the investigators are done searching for the day or is there another area being searched? TIA
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I see nothing significant found yet. Is it true that the investigators are done searching for the day or is there another area being searched? TIA
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I hope there are more places to search....and there was something significant about the search.......it shows the case is not COLD!!!! We should all be glad today
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I am very happy they are going though all the tips and keeping her story updated and alive. You never know who will remember something or will see something and will solve this and bring her home.
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06-26-2009, 07:43 PM
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I hope there are more places to search....and there was something significant about the search.......it shows the case is not COLD!!!! We should all be glad today
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I absolutely second that, I saw Haleigh mentioned on numerous news programs today and I hope that with the 2nd round table discussion taking place soon the case will be in the news for a bit.
What I think is that LE might have some strong suspicions and this search today had to be done to rule out any and all hope that there may be evidence of Haleigh there. I think we might see other searches in other area's that tips came in about. I liken the search to investigators traveling to the ends of the earth to search for little Caylee even though they had suspicion Caylee was already gone. When tips came in about a "live" Caylee they had to investigate it. Again this is all my opinion and I am only theorizing. No disrespect intended.
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06-26-2009, 08:04 PM
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I think they couldn't have left the properties of such close relatives unsearched, not if they had family members on record saying that they had been digging on their property. If they happened to have some other evidence that points to someone and they decided to make an arrest without a body it it might create reasonable doubt for the defense if they could point out relatives without an alibi and ready made holes they could have easily buried the body in.
I was aggravated that this more thorough search was done now and not the day after Haleigh went missing but then again, *if* Haleigh was buried somewhere we don't know for certain when. They did say they had some reason to suspect she might be alive, a couple of months into the search. I don't know, maybe it was just because they hadn't found her dead but if someone abducted her for some other purpose than to kill immediately they might have kept her alive for some time and then got rid of her when it became too dangerous to keep her.
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I think they couldn't have left the properties of such close relatives unsearched, not if they had family members on record saying that they had been digging on their property. If they happened to have some other evidence that points to someone and they decided to make an arrest without a body it it might create reasonable doubt for the defense if they could point out relatives without an alibi and ready made holes they could have easily buried the body in.
I was aggravated that this more thorough search was done now and not the day after Haleigh went missing but then again, *if* Haleigh was buried somewhere we don't know for certain when. They did say they had some reason to suspect she might be alive, a couple of months into the search. I don't know, maybe it was just because they hadn't found her dead but if someone abducted her for some other purpose than to kill immediately they might have kept her alive for some time and then got rid of her when it became too dangerous to keep her.
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I'm glad LE is sifting through the interviews they have done, looking for anything they may have overlooked, or not taken has a clue the first time around, and are continuing to search for Haleigh. Fresh eyes on the case are a good thing too.
I hope they find her soon.
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There is more to this "tip" than they are saying, imo. They would not converge in force on the property and bring in divers without a substantial lead. If it were only the horses or animal carcasses they were interested in...there would be a handful of people on scene and not bulldozers, divers, and 40 officers! No way would they put this kind of manpower out there without having some very serious information on Haleigh.
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You got that right, SS. I've missed ya, lady. 
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You got that right, SS. I've missed ya, lady. |
 Missed ya, too!
This gave me renewed hope in LE initially. However, if they did give them advanced warning...what good would it do to search there?! What kind of Law enforcement agency calls ahead?! WTH?! 
Does this mean Baker County gave preferrential treatment to the Sheffield/Griffis clan? What else could it mean?
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Missed ya, too!
This gave me renewed hope in LE initially. However, if they did give them advanced warning...what good would it do to search there?! What kind of Law enforcement agency calls ahead?! WTH?!
Does this mean Baker County gave preferrential treatment to the Sheffield/Griffis clan? What else could it mean? |
I still have renewed hope in LE. If they gave advanced warning and something was dug up or soil seriously disturbed, it would be apparent. I personally don't feel there was preferrential treatment shown, according to press releases, Marie had asked for the property to be searched. If that was their real reason, I have no idea. I was just so tickled that we were able to see that they really haven't given up on this case. Perhaps others will now be asked to have their property searched. At this point, everyone should be giving permission and cooperating with LE. Whatever it takes to resolve this.
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I still have renewed hope in LE. If they gave advanced warning and something was dug up or soil seriously disturbed, it would be apparent. I personally don't feel there was preferrential treatment shown, according to press releases, Marie had asked for the property to be searched. If that was their real reason, I have no idea. I was just so tickled that we were able to see that they really haven't given up on this case. Perhaps others will now be asked to have their property searched. At this point, everyone should be giving permission and cooperating with LE. Whatever it takes to resolve this.
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Exactly, whatever it takes to advance this case the families should be doing. If families are not cooperating I want to know about it. Interviews, polygraphs, whatever it takes to work through all the finger pointing. Sure it's uncomfortable but this case isn't about the families, it's about finding Haleigh.
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I don't recall the maternal great grandfather's name. I am just delighted they are conducting an all out search on their properties. It would be great if anyone owning the surrounding land would simply give them the green light to search further tho.
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I'm also delighted they're searching in Baker County, on Crystal's relative's property. Maybe a thorough search, if it turns up nothing, will put all the nasty rumors to rest once and for all.
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I'm also delighted they're searching in Baker County, on Crystal's relative's property. Maybe a thorough search, if it turns up nothing, will put all the nasty rumors to rest once and for all.
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That's doubtful, if it isn't one thing it will be another. I hope all the grandmas have consented to polygraphs to advance this case and get through all the mud slinging. Cooperating with LE is essential to moving this case forward.
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That's doubtful, if it isn't one thing it will be another. I hope all the grandmas have consented to polygraphs to advance this case and get through all the mud slinging. Cooperating with LE is essential to moving this case forward.
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Why would any family member, or friend, do anything other than provide LE with every bit of assistance they ask for in the search for this sweet little girl ? 
At a minimum:
1. Maintain open communcations with LE
2. Provide only honest information to LE
3. Provide ready access to their property for LE to search
As you noted, cooperation with LE is the key to finding Haleigh. Those who truely want her found will be cooperating at every opportunity to do so.
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06-27-2009, 08:57 AM
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IMO it seems they gave Good Ol' boy curtisies to the Sheffield/Griffis family from the very begining.
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I see why this is so frustrating to them. No matter what they do, people find fault. Marie has been asking for the property to be searched. So now it is LE doing the job and giving heads up and it just goes on.... They are helping rule out some of the rumors and eliminating places to search. They are cooperating with LE. I don't think either family took her. Neither motive bans out if you go over it.
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IMO it seems they gave Good Ol' boy curtisies to the Sheffield/Griffis family from the very begining.
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I am really not wanting to start an argument about this but I can't figure out why someone would feel this way - you have every right to - but I just don't see it. It may seem like they are being extended some curtesy because they are cooperating. That doesn't mean they are any more or less responsible for Haleigh's missing I realize, but they are not hiding.
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I see why this is so frustrating to them. No matter what they do, people find fault. Marie has been asking for the property to be searched. So now it is LE doing the job and giving heads up and it just goes on.... They are helping rule out some of the rumors and eliminating places to search. They are cooperating with LE. I don't think either family took her. Neither motive bans out if you go over it.[/QUOTE
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The motive is not as easy to understand at this moment because we do not have a confirmed suspect yet.
I can not rule out this side of the family just because their property has been searched 4 1/2 months later and a dead and buried horse was uncovered that they claimed was there. The fact that HaLeigh has not been found yet and LE is now claiming they are now rechecking property (Sheffield/Griffis) they did not thoroughly search from the beginning is a indicator of where they are investigating now.
I guess the key didn't fit the door they have been focused on since the beginning.
I would bet if LE keeps up the searching into the Sheffield and Griffis side they will find the answers.
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I am really not wanting to start an argument about this but I can't figure out why someone would feel this way - you have every right to - but I just don't see it. It may seem like they are being extended some curtesy because they are cooperating. That doesn't mean they are any more or less responsible for Haleigh's missing I realize, but they are not hiding.
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There is no reason to argue. We can speculate all day long about who, why and how, but, will not know the truth till an arrest is made.
IMO LE has indicated that a family member is behind this crime. Have I missed something?
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