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Old 05-27-2009, 11:28 AM
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Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt7

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Old 05-27-2009, 11:29 AM
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I think I am brain dull this morning. I have been trying to find when SC went to Mexico last year. When she left the U.S. and how long she was gone.

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I know, I know...I quoted my own post, but I have Googled myself stupid (yeah, not a stretch ) and all that comes up are posts made in tribute to SC and her helping build homes.

To help make my question more understandable, I wonder about the timeframe and how long CC had family home all to himself. In regards to what he may have placed within home in terms of surviellance. Separate to what he may have done while SC was home for "security". Also, I wonder why (if 'cause we not 100% on this yet) there was no Will. This would not been just about CC and SC, but both sons if anything would have happened to parents. Which would go hand and had with a life insurance policy.

Sorry, but the legal financials are giving me HUGE red flags here. Just direct me somewhere, that's all I'm asking regarding trip to Mexico. Thanks...
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A police surveillance camera could be an important part of the Coleman murder investigation. The camera is mounted near the water town at the Columbia Lakes subdivision. It is in that subdivision where Sheri Coleman died along with her two sons on May 5th. Sheri's husband, the father of the two boys, has been charged with their murders.

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The company can't talk about any clues in the Coleman murder investigation. Neither can police. But based on this camera's location it could give exact times on when the suspect and father, Chris Coleman, left the neighborhood, when he returned, or whether anyone else suspicious drove in and out. All pieces that could be crucial to solve the murder of Sheri Coleman and her two kids.

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-fox-file...,2657263.story

My apologies if this article has already been discussed...seems this may have been the tool used to narrow down the time he actually left the area and may have led LE to the 'only suspect.'
Hmmm... I wonder if it had range to show someone stuffing some soiled scrubs in a trash can...
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:36 AM
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the problem with piano wire, is that the actual wire has small coils on it. If you look closely, it looks like many small loops stuck together or one long wire spiraled on itself until it forms a wire, it has grooves on it. I don't know much about bow hunting but know that they do have wires instead of ropes or strings or chords. Now, the piano wire, may leave marks, as those grooves on a victim and and the bow string or wire may not as it may just be for cutting. I would imagine that bow wire not have any grooves as it would cause wind resistance which would make for a noise while shooting your bow and cuase your pull back and release to not be as fast as otherwise would. The piano wire, has to vibrate as it strikes the bells in the back of the piano, when a key is struck. So, they would want to be grooved to allow the most amount of air flow to be trapped, thus resonating and producing the most sound.

Am I right?

that is why I think it was a bow wire. If he went hunting with a bow, why not use what you had on hand.

As for the scrubs, I do remember the LE finding them in the trash.
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Was CC's attorney at the house yesterday when Sheri's family was able to go into the house? I would think the defense would have someone there while that was going on,unless they relied on the police to escort.
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I took it as he was trying to be funny/sarcastic...like saying he had no dog.
Sarcastic/funny/whatever, one look at that picture scared the 'ell out of me.
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Here ya go, Wrinkles.

"Police widened their search outside the home for clues, even going through trash cans. In one trash can, they found a pair of surgical pants with stains on them."

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story...174475&catid=3

Somewhere in my travels yesterday, I saw a picture of one of the detectives examining the scrubs but I don't remember where it was.

Here's the picture...
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...8?OpenDocument
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Was CC's attorney at the house yesterday when Sheri's family was able to go into the house? I would think the defense would have someone there while that was going on,unless they relied on the police to escort.
don't think he was
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Was CC's attorney at the house yesterday when Sheri's family was able to go into the house? I would think the defense would have someone there while that was going on,unless they relied on the police to escort.
There was a Detective from the Columbia PD there to escort them.
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Also... Howdy RollinOn86

Good to see you bring up that Mirabelli (Sheri's cousin) is in "family law" practice.

On 05/10/09 I wrote in our first thread...
>>Also, he appears to be partner in Nadler, Pritikin & Mirabelli (Family Law.) I wonder if Sheri ever discussed the deed thing with him or anything else, he being a family law attorney.<<

Certainly seems that Sheri, not a pushover, would have contacted a cousin in confidence if she felt that there were divorce issues going on. And...as one of our good sleuthers recently brought up, maybe -- if she did -- that would fall under attorney/client privilege and thus not be mentioned by the cousin. However, how would this fit together with the family not knowing of any problems AND would Sheri have signed off a deed after having gotten her cousin's counsel? I somehow don't think so, particularly since this was brought up in the civil suit and noted in the press conference.

Sounds more like there was something going on with this signing off the deed thing, still a mystery... It certainly would be nice to hear from one of Sheri's friends within whom she may have confided.

As for the money management thing that was going on, the course they taught -- I wonder if Dave Ramsey has a requirement for those who teach this course? Years ago, I bought/studied another Christian financial counseling course, I studied for many hours, videos, books etc. "If" I had taken on the teaching of others in this, with the blessing of the church we went to, I might have been allowed to do it simply because we were a) steady and well known members, and b) as a type of "let's all use the course and learn together." That would not have meant I was "licensed" to teach the course, but simply that a number of us were going to meet at my home, watch the videos, do the work books, learn and discuss. i.e. Maybe a number of us had some learning to do...

As for whether Sheri and CC were looking at divorce, well doesn't this sometimes happen in marriages on and off and then get resolved? If Sheri and CC were looking at this, maybe nothing was spoken to anyone else because they were not positive and were maybe hoping to work things out, or maybe Sheri was. On the other hand, maybe CC was setting up that "ambush" that Adnoid mentioned (ref: the situation with CC's brother). Would Sheri have been planning to go on a mission kind of trip knowing she was having to reroute her entire life due to a divorce? Could she have thought that she and the kids could make it just on "support" and "alimony" from CC?

AND...about "divorce" thoughts and keeping it quiet... Why not keep it quiet if both Sheri and CC knew that CC would be "out of a job" if there was a divorce? Could they have been planning things, getting them in sync before letting anyone know and CC getting laid off? Was that house packed?

Just how much time would it have taken CC's family have to pull all pictures off the wall, grab all of the children's clothing (to give them away, if that is true), pack the children's toys into drawers and then pack a trailer with CC's belongings and drive off. Two hours? How many times have they been at the house, how long did they spend?
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Hello Artie and All,

The thread was locked, and a new one started just after I had written a nice cogitating message on the wire.

Artie, did you get to see that message?
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Hmmm... I wonder if it had range to show someone stuffing some soiled scrubs in a trash can...
I doubt it, Jack. The camera is up by the entrance into the subdivision and the house is quite a little ways away from it back farther in the subdivision. I would almost bet it couldn't have "seen" anything back there.
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The thread was locked, and a new one started just after I had written a nice cogitating message on the wire.

Artie, did you get to see that message?
My thoughts exactly, but again, if we were thinking that, I am sure LE already did too.
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Was CC's attorney at the house yesterday when Sheri's family was able to go into the house? I would think the defense would have someone there while that was going on,unless they relied on the police to escort.
They had the police with them so they wouldn't be accused of doing anything wrong or taking anything they weren't supposed to. I don't think the lawyer was on any of the news videos that I saw.
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I think LE should take that tribute video and project it on the walls of CC cell 24 hours a day.
JMO of course.
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Sarcastic/funny/whatever, one look at that picture scared the 'ell out of me.
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I think LE should take that tribute video and project it on the walls of CC cell 24 hours a day.
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I'll second that!!!
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And what about the last dinner?

Did Sheri eat that dinner? Was she there? Did Chris cook that night as rumored? Why? Does one of Sheri's girlfriends knonw?

We also heard a rumor that Chris was at the gym with his son that night (what time.) Were he and both of the boys there (one in childcare)? Was CC expecting to go home and have Sheri cooking -- but maybe Sheri was upset with him and left the house to go get her head together thinking, "You can feed the children tonight, I need some time to think."

And how about that writing on the wall that is mentioned as:

>>"I saw you leave, (expletive) you, I am always watching"<<

WOAHH...was this double entendre? i.e. was CC watching Sheri and new she took off for a while? At the same time, was this writing on the wall meant to insinuate that the Ninja was always watching?

"If" -- and I don't know if we are clear yet, the writing on the wall said "whore paid" -- that isn't about a threat to CC and his family due to any job at JMM, that is a murderer stating his rage at a particular person. If, on the other hand, there was "u have paid" -- well that is another thing (insinuating towards the threats.)

But another thing, was there "u have paid" -- Now the exact text will be interesting. Not long ago a college lit teacher (one teaching those who barely made it into college) mentioned that many of the papers she was receiving were written by people who obviously knew how to text messages, i.e someone saying "u have paid" instead of "you have paid." Would be interesting to see what CCs pattern of writing in Emails was and if he used "u" instead of "you."
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I doubt it, Jack. The camera is up by the entrance into the subdivision and the house is quite a little ways away from it back farther in the subdivision. I would almost bet it couldn't have "seen" anything back there.
I wouldn't be so sure. Since the cameras are operated to help in criminal matters, it is possible not only does it rotate 360 degrees, but it could very well have a zoom feature. There was mention it was possibly trained on his house to watch for the threat person.

ETA: Artie made it clear this isn't possible. Thanks, Artie!
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And what about the last dinner?
I haven't bothered to read all the previous posts - simply too many that I didn't want to bother. However, please elaborate on what you mean regarding the last dinner?

Has actual news come out regarding drugging / last dinner, or is this merely a theory being discussed?

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I think LE should take that tribute video and project it on the walls of CC cell 24 hours a day.
JMO of course.
I get your point - you want CC to suffer! I do too, if he is convicted of committing this crime. However, if he was able to commit the crime against his family I doubt seeing a tribute video 24/7 would phase him much.

You'll need to think of something far worse!
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I haven't bothered to read all the previous posts - simply too many that I didn't want to bother. However, please elaborate on what you mean regarding the last dinner?

Has actual news come out regarding drugging / last dinner, or is this merely a theory being discussed?

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It is rumored that Chris prepared dinner the night before the murders which was something he did not normally do for the family. It has not been confirmed. Possible drugging has been discussed as a theory for why he would step of his normal behavior to cook.
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I get your point - you want CC to suffer! I do too, if he is convicted of committing this crime. However, if he was able to commit the crime against his family I doubt seeing a tribute video 24/7 would phase him much.

You'll need to think of something far worse!
A 24/7 video of JM's highlights perhaps?!
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Howdy Dogwood,

Thanks to the link to that scrubs photo/article. I had seen it the day it came out, but I had lost the link. When I read "stains on them" -- I didn't necessarily think blood, but maybe paint. I can't see anything in that photo, per stains. I wonder if any of our expert graphic WSrs can enhance that photo and see what/where.

Today I used this very scientific method, when looking at the scrubs photo i.e a ruler! I thought, what size person would those scrubs fit? The length of the legs looks a little short, but maybe not, seems that the leg length would work on both of the men in that photo (although a skosh short on the one) -- how tall was CC? The waist width looked like it could work on a man -- but it didn't seem really wide, a spindle axxed fellow could wear them I guess.

So what stains were on those -- AND I really wonder if there were any rags with paint thinner smell found in any of those cans (of course, was that spray paint oil or water based.)
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