WI WI - Black River Falls, Female (874UFWI), 24-40, Mushroom Tattoo on Left Hand, Oct'90

not_my_kids · #1 06-02-2009, 01:17 PM

Mod Note: This thread deals with two separate UID's. I have duplicated the thread, and this thread will cover Case 874UFWI. Any further discussion of 406UFWI should be covered on the following thread:

WI WI - Houlton, WhtFem 406UFWI, 35-60, Wide Set Eyes-Possibly Mentally Retarded, Oct'02 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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There was a headless body found in Black River Falls, WI 10-10-1990. She was a white female, estimated age to be anywhere from 24-40, she was 5'2" - 5'4", and had a stocky build. Her date of death would have been 2 weeks - 1 year earlier. SHe had been put into 2 garbage bags: her torso in one, limbs in another and buried them quickly in shallow graves right off I-94.

Then in 10-19-2002, there was a bodiless head found in Jackson, WI, roughly 175 miles away. Her date of death is way off, she was believed to have died 6-9 months prior. But there are a lot of other factors involved that are too close for comfort. The head was also found in a garbage bag, in a ravine right off the side of the road and there were no other remains found at all. The skull was thought to have come from a woman 35-50, with dark brown hair. She could have been white, native american, asian, or white and hispanic mixed. They believe she may have been severly mentally impaired.

I mapped the route from Black River falls to Jackson and I-94 where the head was found meets up I-39 and ends. On the other side of I-39 it becomes US-141, which takes you most of the way to Jackson. (At least that is what I see from the map, locals feel free to correct me.)

Would it even be possible for the ME to be so wrong on the date of death for the skull? Maybe if it were kept in a controlled environment for a while, or if the garbage bag protected it a lot more than they thought? I don't know, it just seems very odd to me that in WI, where there are very few Does, there would be two dimembered bodies that are totally unconnected, especially since that means that there would be 2 uncaptured killers that prefer to dismember their victims, which is a relatively rare thing for people to do.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/874ufwi.html Body

http://doenetwork.org/cases/406ufwi.html Head

defender123 · #2 06-02-2009, 02:31 PM

You bring up a very good point. Contact Doe and ask them a few more questions. On the head they were fairly specific on the dates, so they may have ruled this out. But it does not hurt to ask.

Donjeta · #3 07-24-2011, 05:21 PM

Namus link for this Doe
https://identifyus.org/cases/4767

No DNA according to her DN page, Namus doesn't say anything about it.

The 2002 Doe doesn't have a Namus page.

Interesting coincidences there but the timing would have to be way off since the 2002 UID is estimated to have died 6 to 9 months earlier. The skull is said to be 90 % decomposed. Does that mean 90 % of the soft tissue was decomposed or what?

Maybe the killer stored the head in the freezer for twelve years before ditching it.

Another thing that strikes me as a problem is the description of the 2002 UID as likely to have been severely retarded and possibly institutionalized. The 1990 UID had a mushroom tattoo on her wrist. If it's true about the mental retardation (and it certainly looks like her facial features could fit some syndrome or another) she probably didn't have a tattoo IMO. It's possible but IMO somewhat unlikely. Someone who is so mentally impaired as to possibly require institutionalization may not have had the opportunity, the resources or even the impulse to acquire a tattoo. I am told that it is a somewhat painful procedure, and people with severe mental retardation may react to pain very strongly so their caretakers might not like the idea of subjecting them to unnecessary pain that is easily avoidable such as tattoos. Suppose choosing a mushroom tattoo for her might have been someone's idea of a sick joke if she really was mentally retarded. http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-of/mushroom

Did you ever talk to anybody to find out more, Notmykids?

Mod Note: Continue on this thread with any discussion of 874UFWI. Any further discussion of 406UFWI should be covered on the following thread:

WI WI - Houlton, WhtFem 406UFWI, 35-60, Wide Set Eyes-Possibly Mentally Retarded, Oct'02 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community