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respectfully snipped 42~! And BTW.. I think this is sleuth thought of the day! I too keep finding myself saying "they" and using pleural. What the he!! is up with that? I think you verbalized something very important here!
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quoting my own self to clarify on the they... I can see more than one person being involved... and whenever I try to write about the perp I seem to want to pluralize... not because I live in Michigan or anything LOL...
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another question: what was the weather like the evening of the 25th? I am having a hard time believing it was warm enough in mich to go barefoot and wear shorts at 6 oclock at night in May.
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Thanks, I was wondering how someone parked behind the guard rail, now I see. I also have a mislabeled video story showing the disposal site near the river and report on clues if interested. It does appear to be the same spot.
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I'm fairly certain it is. In the video you linked (thanks, btw) you can see in the aerial shots where the road guardrail ends. There isn't anywhere else near there with just that combination of features.
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another question: what was the weather like the evening of the 25th? I am having a hard time believing it was warm enough in mich to go barefoot and wear shorts at 6 oclock at night in May.
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((nurse raises hand)) I can answer that. The first foxtoledo articles and tweets that came out on this case actually mentioned that one of the main reasons they were concerned was because of the low temperature and the fact that Neveah had not been dressed for it. They made underlined and bolded note that she had no shoes or socks on and was in jean shorts with a short sleeved shirt and could be subjected to the elements.
((eta: low temperature meaning low temperature at night))
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does anyone else find it strange that news crews were allowed down to the burial site so soon after the find???????
ETA: could this be a defense bone of contention to pick when the perp who is good for this goes to trial?
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another question: what was the weather like the evening of the 25th? I am having a hard time believing it was warm enough in mich to go barefoot and wear shorts at 6 oclock at night in May.
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There has not been a day in Michigan yet this year that was warm enough to run around barefoot. Especially not in the evening. It cools off early.
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Found the temp for the 25th high of 69 low of 53.
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Found the temp for the 25th high of 69 low of 53.
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I'll add to this...
Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Monroe, Monroe County, Michigan (longitude W83.4, latitude N41.9):
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24 May 2009 Eastern Daylight Time
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Begin civil twilight 5:33 a.m.
Sunrise 6:05 a.m.
Sun transit 1:30 p.m.
Sunset 8:56 p.m.
End civil twilight 9:29 p.m.
MOON
Moonset 8:30 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 5:43 a.m.
Moon transit 1:41 p.m.
Moonset 9:45 p.m.
Moonrise 6:40 a.m. on following day
New Moon on 24 May 2009 at 8:11 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time.
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somehow i feel like we're being set up. everyone around them who knew the mother had s.o. friends knew they would be blamed immediately. what did the mother need from the store that couldn't be brought home from food town by the grandmother?
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Question: Is the bag cement comes in semi waterproof?
Hubby just said, left in rain the cement would be ruined, but are they doubled bagged, could that bag hold enough water to work with mixing the cement?
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Hey, Great thinkin' there BB. The bags from Portland Cement are a thick brown paper and it is a double bag. I don't think there is any waterproofing, but I could be wrong.
However, it would certainly work fine and hold up for dipping in the river a few times IMO.
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It's not as clearly stated here as in the original video link, but.......
http://www.freep.com/article/2009060...89/1007/NEWS05
Bickley said it looked as though someone dug a hole, then poured a bag of concrete mix on top of the body. The men called 911 but had to wait two hours before anyone arrived. They spent much of the day at the sheriff's office filing reports.
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another question: what was the weather like the evening of the 25th? I am having a hard time believing it was warm enough in mich to go barefoot and wear shorts at 6 oclock at night in May.
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You mean the 24th when Nevaeh went missing? 
It's here: http://www.wunderground.com/weathers...y=24&year=2009
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another question: what was the weather like the evening of the 25th? I am having a hard time believing it was warm enough in mich to go barefoot and wear shorts at 6 oclock at night in May.
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Here's a link to Weather Underground for that day.
It appears to have been in the upper 60's. Warm weather for Michigan.
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i thought it was sunday ur right monday was the 25th, sorry.
brrrr, same as monday temp.
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This is the link to the original video report stating that it appeared the concrete mix had been poured dry into the grave and the water poured over it, but it's now a weather radar. See that area right above the final R in Sky Tracker? That's where I live.
I'll look for another link.
Oops....forgot the link, not that there's anything to see there.
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For some reason, the link didn't show up in your post, but it's here when I quote your post.
Who's up for a party at Chilly's house tonight since we now know where he/she lives?
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Hey, Great thinkin' there BB. The bags from Portland Cement are a thick brown paper and it is a double bag. I don't think there is any waterproofing, but I could be wrong.
However, it would certainly work fine and hold up for dipping in the river a few times IMO.
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I am thinking maybe that would work too. They prob know by the condition of the bag they found, I wonder if it was still in one piece. Geez, it never dawned on me if they have the bag they will know exactly where it came from with lot numbers etc.
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For some reason, the link didn't show up in your post, but it's here when I quote your post.
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This has probably been discussed on one of the previous threads (I just found it!), but what do you all make of it? She last logged in 3 days before the remains were found. 
http://www.myspace.com/407347679
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OMG posted june 2
$MSS. BOSS$$ PLEASE HELP FIND NEVAEHS KILLER!
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Chilly - do you have a link that says water was poured over the Quickcrete? The more I think about this, the more I don't think a bucket was needed since the area was so close to the river. JMHO.
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I thought about cooler as soon as I heard that Nevaeh was found in the shallow grave with concrete over her. The perps, yeah I think two of them, may have transported her in a cooler and used the cooler to get water from the river to mix the concrete in to pour over her.
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I thought about cooler as soon as I heard that Nevaeh was found in the shallow grave with concrete over her. The perps, yeah I think two of them, may have transported her in a cooler and used the cooler to get water from the river to mix the concrete in to pour over her.
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This has probably been discussed on one of the previous threads (I just found it!), but what do you all make of it? She last logged in 3 days before the remains were found.
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Hmmmmm.....
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I've always wondered why police don't stake out a fresh body for awhile to see if somebody comes back.
IIRC, the police found a fresh body under a bridge here in Rochester while the serial killings were happening. They then watched the area to see if anyone came back and to make a long story short that's how they caught Arthur Shawcross.
It seems that some of these guys repeat the thrill of the killing by coming back.
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I believe that is also similar to how they caught Wayne Williams for the Atlanta Child murders in the 70's. I think these days they get far more useful hard evidence by thoroughly processing the scene for forensucs then by simply watching for who shows up, which can be more easily challenged in court.
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wondering outloud.
if there was no sexual assault do you think those SO's could flip on the mother and say she's the killer and they only disposed of the body.
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I thought about cooler as soon as I heard that Nevaeh was found in the shallow grave with concrete over her. The perps, yeah I think two of them, may have transported her in a cooler and used the cooler to get water from the river to mix the concrete in to pour over her.
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That makes the most sense, since it would conceal Nevaeh's body from the car/truck to the site she was buried. I also believe the perp(s) tried to make it look like they were fishing so that would fit in. MOO
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