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WI - AMBER ALERT: Unknown 12-14 year old female, Oshkosh, Aug 2009
Oshkosh police issue Amber Alert for missing girl
Oshkosh police are investigating what a police spokesman called a "more than probable abduction" about 10:30 a.m. of a 12- to 14-year-old girl from a north-side residential neighborhood.
Police Department spokesman Joe Nichols said police are searching for three men in an older, rursty or dirty, four-door, maroon vehicle with a back bumper with a dent. The car was driven by black male who was accompanied by two passengers, a black male and a white male.
According to witnesses, the two passengers got out of the car and grabbed the girl as she was walking eastbound on Linwood Avenue, police said.
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Police have not yet identified the girl, Nichols said. She is described as 5 feet tall and thin. She was wearing orange shorts, a pink tank top and a shiny or glossy hairband.
More: http://www.fdlreporter.com/article/2.../90819091/1985
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Wow! This time they really got the Amber Alert out quickly. They may not even know who she is yet, just going by witnesses, I guess. Having the vehicle description is probably what made this AA go out so quickly.
It's such a nightmare scenario!
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Let's just hope they find her right away and unharmed.
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I hate to even be questioning this, but I am. Every time I see "unknown victim, unknown suspects", I question it. And I hate that. I wish that people would not report false abductions for whatever sick pleasure they get out of it. There's a line here between wanting it to be real to not have another false report and wanting it to be fake so there isn't this child in danger.
I guess I'm just curious as to the statement that it is a "more than probable abduction", and yet nearly 6 hours later, they still don't know who she is.
I hope they can verify one way or the other, and that this child (if she exists) is safe.
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I wonder if it was an ex-boyfriend who took her with help from friends?
I get so very tired of waking up only to read more and more of these type of stories. *sigh* 
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According to this news report, the witness was an 11 year old boy. According to him, the girl said "Help me. Someone's trying to kidnap me." He says they tied her wrists with blue rope, and hit her in the head with a black club.
It seems like he saw a lot for a quick act. Also, no other neighbors saw or heard anything. They think the girl lives in the area, but haven't found out who she is yet? His mother belives him, but I'm not sure if I do.
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According to this news report, the witness was an 11 year old boy. According to him, the girl said "Help me. Someone's trying to kidnap me." He says they tied her wrists with blue rope, and hit her in the head with a black club.
YouTube - Amber Alert issued for girl in Oshkosh
It seems like he saw a lot for a quick act. Also, no other neighbors saw or heard anything. They think the girl lives in the area, but haven't found out who she is yet? His mother belives him, but I'm not sure if I do. |
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Oh dear. I agree. This is looking like a probable hoax.
The only eyewitness is an 11 yr old boy and no one is missing a teen, no name known.?
Nothing against 11 yr old boys. I have an 11 yr old grandson and he is a great kid.
I hope more information is out soon.
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Part of me is glad that this is getting attention, the young man Mitchell was able to help police locate Shawn and Ben because he thought Devlin's truck didn't "belong" in the area, so I guess it's possible that this boy saw something?
The other part of me is praying it's a hoax. No more missing children is what I'd prefer. 
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Part of me is glad that this is getting attention, the young man Mitchell was able to help police locate Shawn and Ben because he thought Devlin's truck didn't "belong" in the area, so I guess it's possible that this boy saw something?
The other part of me is praying it's a hoax. No more missing children is what I'd prefer. |
I agree with you that it is very possible that the boy saw something. Mitchell seeing something and being able to help bring Ben and Shawn home was amazing, and even he was doubted. But the major difference I see here is that Ben's parents knew he was missing shortly afterwards. In this case, it has been about 9 hours now, and still no ID on the girl.
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08-19-2009, 09:24 PM
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Oshkosh police investigate abduction claim
An Oshkosh boy reported a possible abduction Wednesday morning on the city's north side. But many hours after the report, police have yet to figure out who the victim might be.
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Authorities issues an Amber Alert at 1:30pm, and that was alert was allowed to expire at 7:30pm as no new information had been gathered since the initial report.
http://www.wfrv.com/news/local/story...5NZd-ntVA.cspx
Another video at the above link, also.
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Ok if the girl was from the neighborhood, and she's between 12 and 14 and he's 11. I would think they would know each other from running the streets, riding the bus together, and or school.
I hope he is telling the truth, but this one seems to much like the sisters calling 911 on the cellphone hoax.
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You would certainly think a parent would have noticed and reported their child missing by now - especially with the way Amber Alerts are publicized, I can't imagine that a child's parents would have NOT noticed all day today.
Plus - granted, I've never been kidnapped, so I guess I couldn't say for sure - I wouldn't think I'd have time or the presence of mind to yell whole "help me, I'm being kidnapped" sentences. And the kidnappers took the time to tie her wrists (out of the car, I'm assuming, if the boy saw it happen)? It just doesn't sound feasible to me.
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08-19-2009, 11:03 PM
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Oshkosh police continue investigation into missing girl who may have been abducted
Police have not received any reports of missing children, but they continue to investigate the case of a 12- to 14-year-old girl who was abducted from a northside residential neighborhood Wednesday morning.
Police issued a statewide Amber Alert for the girl at 1:45 p.m. Wednesday, but the alert expired that evening. The department had not received any additional information about the girl, including her name.
“We haven’t gotten any calls, no information regarding missing children,” department spokesman Joe Nichols said at 8 p.m. Wednesday. “We’re just waiting and seeing if we do get something because you never know, it might be a couple of days down the road before something is reported.”
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A boy observed the incident and had had his mother report it to police. When contacted by The Northwestern Wednesday night, she said her family has decided not to comment because of the ongoing investigation.
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/.../90819165/1979
Well, I'm glad that they are taking this seriously until proven otherwise. It's better to have the alert be false, than to not issue it for a true abduction. That being said...kind of surprising that they will wait a few days. But I do agree with you, Hucklepie, about her speaking in sentences and him seeing so much. I also found it interesting that the mother and son are now declining to comment because of the investigation...when they've already done at least 2 video interviews.
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Not specifically about this possible abduction, but a lot of good info about the AMBER Alert system.
Police Receive Amber Alerts Almost Instantly
When Oshkosh police issued an Amber Alert Wednesday afternoon, law enforcement agencies throughout Northeast Wisconsin received the notice almost instantly.
The Brown County communications center is the hub of information for police in Northeast Wisconsin. Just moments after Oshkosh police issued the statewide alert, dispatchers here received the message.
"Within Brown County, if we receive the Amber Alert and it's anywhere near Brown County, it'll go out to everybody that's working," Shelly Nackers at the communications center said.
"Once dispatch gets it, within a minute or two all the squads have it," Lieutenant Jim Runge, Green Bay Police Department, said.
The second dispatchers receive the Amber Alert, they forward it directly to the squad car computers of every officer on duty in the county.
Much more: http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=10960107
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Thanks Idaho4Groenes, it sounds like WI has a very proactive Amber Alert system. This "case" here seems to have been sent out quickly even without knowing who the victim is/was or even if there may not be a victim at all. I'm not sure if all states/counties have this quick of an approach?
With all the information the boy provided, it does seem like a hoax to me. It seems like police would have seen this car by now (rusty maroon with a dent in the back bumper). Not that everyone has a new car but it does seem there are less and less of older, rustier models on the roads in general?
If it's a hoax, it does take away from valuable time for LE. If the boy fabricated the story for attention or something, I sure hope he or his mom come forward and take responsibility for the boys actions.
If it's not a hoax, then I hope they find this girl!
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08-20-2009, 08:59 AM
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One thing I've noticed after looking over the girls poster ( http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...e&amberId=6994) is that they have quite a bit of detail on the girl, and the suspects/car.
I don't know which way to look at it- either that could mean this young boy really did see something because that's an awful lot of detail to just make up. Or it could mean that it is a hoax, because of the amount of detail it would be impossible for him to see in such a short time.
I'm really torn on this case, but I really hope LE identifies this young girl soon, and finds her safe OR if this is a hoax- I hope that 11 year old gets some type of punishment by the law.
Major props go out to the police department- they did a fantastic job issuing the Amber Alert quickly, if you ask me. Great great job.
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The other possibility is that it is a hoax, but not by the boy reporting it. Wasn't there a story a while back of some teenagers staging an abduction outside a mall? It is possible some kids staged this to get themselves in the news. I actually hope that is what happened rather than some poor girls was kidnapped and her family doesn't even notice she is gone.
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Amber Alert Expired http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/mobil...908191251_rev1
Statement from the mother: Nylen's mother says Daniel has always told the truth. She doesn't doubt his story and called police as soon as he told her what he saw.
"He's very observant," Amy Nylen said. "He's always since the age of 8, he's always had a very keen sense of his surroundings in more detail than the rest of us."
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Amber Alert Canceled, Teen Still Missing
An Amber Alert was canceled early Wednesday evening, however, police continue to investigate a reported abduction of a 14 year old girl in Oshkosh.
More: http://www.nbc26.com/Global/story.as...nav=menu1454_1
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Police still looking for missing girl
Update planned Thursday afternoon
Oshkosh police are still looking for a missing girl despite the fact that no one has been reported missing.
More: http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/...908201040_rev1
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This is such a strange story. At this point in time, I just don't know what to think. 
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Amber Alert Expired http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/mobil...908191251_rev1
Statement from the mother: Nylen's mother says Daniel has always told the truth. She doesn't doubt his story and called police as soon as he told her what he saw.
"He's very observant," Amy Nylen said. "He's always since the age of 8, he's always had a very keen sense of his surroundings in more detail than the rest of us."
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Since the age of 8? Isnt that kind of a bizarre statement? No disrespect to the mother...what happened when he was 8 that she noticed this keen sense of his?
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Regarding her alleged statement to him-"Help, I am being kidnapped" yeah it sounds hinkey, but many, many moons ago I was dragged into an alley after an armed assault and much to my good fortune there were two guys there moving furniture. I screamed-"Help me, I am being mugged" which in an of itself was peculiar given what had just happened and what was likely about to occur! To make it worse, I was new to that area of the country and the people I was speaking to looked at me like I was crazy because they had no idea what a "mugging" was, but the perp took off when he saw them thank God.
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