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CHARTS & CHART DISCUSSIONS

CONFIRMED CORRECT Time Natal chart Haleigh 2:16am/Gainesville, FL 8/17/2003
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Haleigh Natal Chart/Sunrise & Last Seen Discussion
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Haleigh Natal Chart/ammended/6:50a.m.
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Haleigh Natal Chart/sunrise Gainesville,FL http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...TALSunrise.gif

Last Seen Chart-Misty said Haleigh in bed@ 10:00p.m.2/9/09
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Moonrise Chart 6:32p.m. 2/9/09 & Discussion
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5:00-5:30p.m. Friends Visit 2/9/09 Discussion
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5:00-5:30p.m. Chart http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...ouse020909.gif

5:10p.m. Chart & Discussion
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7:00p.m. GrG-Ma Porch-Chart&Discussion
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Hours Before911:
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911 Police Report http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/ima.../13/putnam.pdf

911 Call Chart & Discussion-certain aspects
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911 call/PLUTO ASPECT:
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MIDPOINTS-Timing of Disappearance:
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Time Haleigh taken from house or crisis:
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Add'l Discussion
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11th &12H.Who?
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Passing Markers:
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WOUND/INJURY to the NECK area:
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A 2nd LOOK one Month since 2/9 - 2/10/09
Haleigh Cummings Secondary Progressions for 2-10-09 (P2)
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Haleigh Cummings Tertiary Progressions for 2-10-09 (P3)
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Tri-Wheel showing Haleigh Cummings NATAL as Inner; Tertiary Progs as Middle; 911 Call to LE as Outer.
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Discussions - revisit one Month later
Part 1
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Part 2
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part 3
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Part 4
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Add'l discussions /one Month later
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RonC Natal Chart/sunrise & Discussion
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RonC 5th & 11th H.-effect children
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Misty C. Natal/sunrise Lansing MIchigan http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/q...talSunrise.gif
Discussion:
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Misty holds answers:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...t=79576&page=7
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Crystal S-bioMom Natal Chart/sunrise Satsuma
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Immediate Family charts
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Ron, Jr. Natal:
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9:30a.m. Search 2/13/09
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Horary - The Truth of The Matter-Part 1-
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Horary - The Truth of the Matter -Part 2
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Add'l Discussion
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SAPP
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bi/w Haleigh
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SAPP bkgnd:
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SNODGRASS brief discussion
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911 call repeated obsevations
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Jan. 26th has significance:
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Marriage Chart
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Could revenge show in chart:
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Ron Jr. Natal & bi-wheel w Ron,Sr.:
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Amber B:
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Cousin Joe O.:
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Hank Tommy Croslin:
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Old 08-20-2009, 02:42 PM
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As a matter of your convenience, I've copied several of the last posts from Thread#3.


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so when will LE go in for the kill on Misty?! Anything in the planets astros et al?

LINK: http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html
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Nancy Grace this evening cover story:

LE announcing Haleigh was NOT abducted by a STRANGER, focus reverts back to Misty and her account of the evening.

Refer to the Charts on page 1 of this Thread. This latest acknowledgement by LE (6 months since Haleigh went missing) was clearly defined in the Charts from day one.
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I know, I was thinking that when I watched last night. We definitely need LE browsing this forum once in awhile. I know they base solely on facts but it always helps to have a heads up to investigate. I really feel that they will be on to something very shortly. Poor Haleigh, I believe there will be justice for you, I'm saying a little prayer right now.
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Something is seriously wrong with somebody in Satsuma, that's for sure. I think I'm just too impatient to be LE. I'd have pounded a few brains over there long before this. PCSO must have the patience of Job, something I don't have.

So, by the reference to Ron's "in-laws", I assume it means Mistie's family. Nice.

All I know is that little girl needs to be found and the culprits need to be jailed. She's been lost for too long and her family's antics are beyond bizarre.

I agree. At least Crystal and her family are staying below the tabloid radar.

Thanks for all the updates. D Sapp has his very own folder in my computer files. I remember when we looked at him and it was too scary to ignore. I kept those notes for future reference. In my notes, I just found a comment by Soulscape saying Sapp is her #1 suspect, and that she believes Haleigh was abducted by a sex predator, although it could actually have been a sex predator not on our radar.

Somewhere I got the idea that we needn't expect Haleigh to be found before September, or at least until autumn, but I can't put my hands on that post. I think it had something to do with the eclipse before she disappeared or some other aspect the night she went missing. I could be wrong about the why, but I'm sure we were told the finding wouldn't happen for several months. I just hope they find her. Unfortunately, though, after all this time, a lot of the evidence will be lost.

An interesting note, I just found the birth announcement of Crystal's other daughter who was born in 2008. On it, they said she was welcomed by two brothers and two sisters, and it spelled HaLeigh with a capital L. I hadn't noticed that before.

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To any of our wonderful Astros....please read this post by Concerned Papa downstairs on the rumor thread for Haleigh (Rumor Thread #2, page 40, post # 977). I wasn't sure if I was allowed to post the link here or not, so I didn't.

IIRC, Tuba or Soulscape posted Haleigh could possibly be found NNE of her home. Does anyone know if Ron's place of work at the time Haleigh went missing is in this direction? Can anything in the charts tell us if she could be here? TIA!!
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Hello Watchinginky,

We have repeatedly stated the charts do not support direct involvement of Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin-Cummings and/or Crystal Sheffield.

I quote from one of my earlier posts made on 3/8/2009:

Haleigh is subjected to the unwanted attentions (ARACHNE square CUPIDO-A) of a repeat sexual offender* (EROS conjunct ECHO) due to the actions of someone she trusted (ATLANTIS). Is this trusted person Ron C.? Is it Misty? Could it be both of them? Considering the lifestyle of Ron & Misty, it could be either or both. *Notice I didn’t say Registered S.O.; I said Repeat. It is still completely unclear whether the perp is an RSO or some POS who has managed to stay below the radar screen.

This is no way points to direct involvement by either Ron or Misty. Rather, it highlights an observation made in previous analysis, that a family connection exists. The perp is someone known to the family, or alternately, someone on the fringes of the family, perhaps a friend or acquaintance of a family friend, relative, or acquaintance. Regardless of the perp’s exact relationship to Ron and/or Misty, Haleigh was exposed to the perp because of the actions/ lifestyle of the people she most trusted, i.e., her dad and his GF.

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Thanks, Fifth, for bringing the posts over here.

Yes, Soulscape, I remember what you said about the family being indirectly involved. I think it's good to reiterate this often because, with the bizarre actions of many of her family members, our thoughts can be swayed in the wrong direction.

I didn't see the Super Moon this morning even though I looked. Too many trees in the way and there was some cloud cover. I should have moseyed over to the lakeshore to check it out. So, thanks for the picture, Tuba, it's all I have.

Concerning that post in the rumor thread, while Ron did have access to that dark wooded area near his jobsite, so did many others. Anyone with knowledge of the area, and who knew Ron worked there, could have taken advantage.

I keep going back to the 911 call, and Ron's voice claiming he was going to go after the people/person who did this. To me, he sounded as if he knew who it was who had taken his daughter.
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Thanks, Fifth, for bringing the posts over here.

Yes, Soulscape, I remember what you said about the family being indirectly involved. I think it's good to reiterate this often because, with the bizarre actions of many of her family members, our thoughts can be swayed in the wrong direction.

I didn't see the Super Moon this morning even though I looked. Too many trees in the way and there was some cloud cover. I should have moseyed over to the lakeshore to check it out. So, thanks for the picture, Tuba, it's all I have.
I remember too, now, and ITA.

I also looked for the Super Moon this morning and I couldn't see it either. We also had cloud cover I wanted to take a picture of it and post it for everyone.
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We'll have to put a drapery rod on that cloud cover so we can draw it back for a full view next time.
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I was listening to Blog Talk Radio last Sunday. It was mentioned by Leonard Padilla and Cobra that Crystal's husband/stepbrother has been involved in moving and hiding children from family to family before. They believe that HaLeigh is in Wisconsin with far flung relatives. Anything on Chad that you see?
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I was listening to Blog Talk Radio last Sunday. It was mentioned by Leonard Padilla and Cobra that Crystal's husband/stepbrother has been involved in moving and hiding children from family to family before. They believe that HaLeigh is in Wisconsin with far flung relatives. Anything on Chad that you see?
I wonder why no one has offered anything since you asked this question. I would like to know if there is anything to it also.
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I wonder why no one has offered anything since you asked this question. I would like to know if there is anything to it also.
It is my understanding that the person who did that was his ex-wife and not Chad who now has the children...AFAIK.
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I was listening to Blog Talk Radio last Sunday. It was mentioned by Leonard Padilla and Cobra that Crystal's husband/stepbrother has been involved in moving and hiding children from family to family before. They believe that HaLeigh is in Wisconsin with far flung relatives. Anything on Chad that you see?
Their belief is misdirected. The astrology clearly shows that the little angel was kidnapped, likely raped, and murdered. FifthEssence has posted links to relevant charts in the 1st post on this Thread #4.

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It is my understanding that the person who did that was his ex-wife and not Chad who now has the children...AFAIK.
Is there a source? I was wondering if it was even true ,but, now I would like to know what source would shed a little light on the subject of this family hidding a child for 8 months. I do find it a little coincidental to this case. IMO
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Their belief is misdirected. The astrology clearly shows that the little angel was kidnapped, likely raped, and murdered. FifthEssence has posted links to relevant charts in the 1st post on this Thread #4.

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Soulscape I respect your work and beliefs and truely believe your gift is a tool , but, the errors in the charts because of inaccurate B date TIME (HaLeigh's to be exact by a close Sheffield family member) has definetly given me pause to wholehearted believe that it is 100% accurate. In fact Housemouse was of a different opinion and like so many others (of a different opinion) has stopped posting because the truth is not what is being sought but what some would have us beleive. This is all my opinion. But would still like to know if a chart has been done on Chad?
ETA: And can be put in layman terms for us that do not understand astrology wording and its full meanings.

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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS,specific topics and theories regarding Haleigh Cummings - outside of astrology or relative to the charts presented, can be found here:

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Soulscape I respect your work and beliefs and truely believe your gift is a tool , but, the errors in the charts because of inaccurate B dates (HaLeigh's to be exact by a close Sheffield family member) has definetly given me pause to wholehearted believe that it is 100% accurate. In fact Housemouse was of a different opinion and like so many others (of a different opinion) has stopped posting because the truth is not what is being sought but what some would have us beleive. This is all my opinion. But would still like to know if a chart has been done on Chad?
ETA: And can be put in layman terms for us that do not understand astrology wording and its full meanings.


Where is it confirmed Haleigh's B'date is other then 8/17/03. Wasn't there a celebration recently in Satsuma? Our TimeStamped Thread has several articles you might review:
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=79779&page=11

You seem to think Housemouse is not here because she analyzed the charts differently? You could not be further from the truth.

We do seek the truth and are NOT biased in any way with regard to any one of the players/parties in this case or any case for that matter.
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Where is it confirmed Haleigh's B'date is other then 8/17/03. Wasn't there a celebration recently in Satsuma? Our TimeStamped Thread has several articles you might review:
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=79779&page=11
I am sorry it was here birth time that was wrong
You seem to think Housemouse is not here because she analyzed the charts differently? You could not be further from the truth.
Thank you for the info
We do seek the truth and are NOT biased in any way with regard to any one of the players/parties in this case or any case for that matter.
Is there a chart on Chad Griffis and in layman terms?
I did not mean to offend you or discredit this valued tool but it can be wrong too just like us.
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Of course using exact birth times works the best as we are able to correctly set the Ascendant on the chart/ the rising-the 1st House.

We originally used a 'sunrise' time for Haleigh's Natal chart which works very well when the birth time is unknown. It gives us a snapshot of the new day.Nevertheless, the planets, the Moon and the Sun remain in the 'same' signs.
We did follow-up with a chart using her exact birthtime and that can be found in post #1 of this Thread.

Our Forensic analysis for the EVENT/the 911 call remains the same.

In addition, because the event chart clearly showed the time-line of the reported activities that evening were not reliable, several charts were done for earlier that day into the evening before the call in an effort to extract more forensic details.


*No, we have not posted a chart for Chad.

None of our core Astrologers would ever say or imply they are 100%, nor would any other astrologer respectful to the Science and being most aware of 'man's' limitations, ever say any such thing.
We, like you, are only human. I will tell you this, we work in the background and share analysis and findings. We ( our Astros here ) come from different backgrounds and disciplines, so when the analysis end up mirroring each others, we post those findings with confidence.
The ONLY one who knows all is GOD.

To those who may be curious, we have an informative Library Thread that makes note of several different kinds of astrology and provides learning sources including net links. The origins of astrology in ancient times is fascinating, from the Arabic studies, to the Romans, the Greeks and practitioners of India.


On a personal note, I feel privileged to work with Tuba, Soulscape, Housemouse, Neptunian and Kaitland, all well grounded and seasoned Astrologers. Fine teachers as well.

We are proud to represent Websleuths-the most productive site of it's kind on the net, in this area of Forensic Astrology.


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Of course using exact birth times works the best as we are able to correctly set the Ascendant on the chart/ the rising-the 1st House.

We originally used a 'sunrise' time for Haleigh's Natal chart which works very well when the birth time is unknown. It gives us a snapshot of the new day.Nevertheless, the planets, the Moon and the Sun remain in the 'same' signs.
We did follow-up with a chart using her exact birthtime and that can be found in post #1 of this Thread.

Our Forensic analysis for the EVENT/the 911 call remains the same.

In addition, because the event chart clearly showed the time-line of the reported activities that evening were not reliable, several charts were done for earlier that day into the evening before the call in an effort to extract more forensic details.


*No, we have not posted a chart for Chad.

None of our core Astrologers would ever say or imply they are 100%, nor would any other astrologer respectful to the Science and being most aware of 'man's' limitations, ever say any such thing.
We, like you, are only human. I will tell you this, we work in the background and share analysis and findings. We ( our Astros here ) come from different backgrounds and disciplines, so when the analysis end up mirroring each others, we post those findings with confidence.
The ONLY one who knows all is GOD.

To those who may be curious, we have an informative Library Thread that makes note of several different kinds of astrology and provides learning sources including net links. The origins of astrology in ancient times is fascinating, from the Arabic studies, to the Romans, the Greeks and practitioners of India.


On a personal note, I feel privileged to work with Tuba, Soulscape, Housemouse, Neptunian and Kaitland, all well grounded and seasoned Astrologers. Fine teachers as well.

We are proud to represent Websleuths-the most productive site of it's kind on the net, in this area of Forensic Astrology.


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Thank you for this enlightening message.....I am always in awe of all of you astrologers. The time, knowledge, well-thought post always amaze me and the comment only God know's.... I have dreams....which are so easy...I do not even have to think... and the truth is only GOD know's is so true.

No matter what medium is used by all of us....the study of astrology, tarot card readers, all types of psychic work... these are all tools that help lead to the truth of the matter at hand....PATIENCE is the key... we all present what we deduce from what we have learned, or told, or shown, but the truth is the Higher Being-God whatever you believe in... the truth will be revealed when it is supposed too. The saying everything happens for a reason...is a simple statement...very frustrating at times...but that is the fact when God wants the truth to be revealed...it will be.

I look forward to each and every post on the astro threads regarding all of the cases you guys work on.
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Thank you for this enlightening message.....I am always in awe of all of you astrologers. The time, knowledge, well-thought post always amaze me and the comment only God know's.... I have dreams....which are so easy...I do not even have to think... and the truth is only GOD know's is so true.

No matter what medium is used by all of us....the study of astrology, tarot card readers, all types of psychic work... these are all tools that help lead to the truth of the matter at hand....PATIENCE is the key... we all present what we deduce from what we have learned, or told, or shown, but the truth is the Higher Being-God whatever you believe in... the truth will be revealed when it is supposed too. The saying everything happens for a reason...is a simple statement...very frustrating at times...but that is the fact when God wants the truth to be revealed...it will be.

I look forward to each and every post on the astro threads regarding all of the cases you guys work on.


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Both of the previous posts are outstanding. I also find myself looking forward to every post on the astro threads. They are by far my favorite.

I think sometimes it's hard to wait when it seems like a case is going no where. The astros provide us with such an incredible insight, we tend to find ourselves wanting to know more and more answers. As I believe Tuba stated, when it's Haleigh's time to be found, she will be found.

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Of course using exact birth times works the best as we are able to correctly set the Ascendant on the chart/ the rising-the 1st House.

We originally used a 'sunrise' time for Haleigh's Natal chart which works very well when the birth time is unknown. It gives us a snapshot of the new day.Nevertheless, the planets, the Moon and the Sun remain in the 'same' signs.
We did follow-up with a chart using her exact birthtime and that can be found in post #1 of this Thread.

Our Forensic analysis for the EVENT/the 911 call remains the same.
In addition, because the event chart clearly showed the time-line of the reported activities that evening were not reliable, several charts were done for earlier that day into the evening before the call in an effort to extract more forensic details.


*No, we have not posted a chart for Chad.

None of our core Astrologers would ever say or imply they are 100%, nor would any other astrologer respectful to the Science and being most aware of 'man's' limitations, ever say any such thing.
We, like you, are only human. I will tell you this, we work in the background and share analysis and findings. We ( our Astros here ) come from different backgrounds and disciplines, so when the analysis end up mirroring each others, we post those findings with confidence.
The ONLY one who knows all is GOD.

To those who may be curious, we have an informative Library Thread that makes note of several different kinds of astrology and provides learning sources including net links. The origins of astrology in ancient times is fascinating, from the Arabic studies, to the Romans, the Greeks and practitioners of India.


On a personal note, I feel privileged to work with Tuba, Soulscape, Housemouse, Neptunian and Kaitland, all well grounded and seasoned Astrologers. Fine teachers as well.

We are proud to represent Websleuths-the most productive site of it's kind on the net, in this area of Forensic Astrology.


Eternally a student,

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Thank you~
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Tuba, SS & all Check out the new articles I just posted in the time-stamped thread...Misty asked Tim Miller to take a LDT's etc. Equusearch Group Director said Misty failed LDT 'Miserably'!!!! A letter from Misty is also posted for you there too!!!

Video, Letter from Misty to TES & articles are all posted. LE has them in hand at this time!!

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Here are the four questions Miller says were asked to Misty on August 19, followed by her answer and the polygraph result:

Question: Did you intentionally withhold any information regarding Haleigh's disappearance?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know what happened to Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know where Haleigh is now?
Answer: No
Result: 95% Deception

Question: Do you know who took Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 42% deception

Miller says he was confused by the 42% result, but a polygraph expert who spoke with Miller says that could mean there were multiple people involved, and that something may have happened inside the house that prevented Misty from knowing which person took her away.


More info & videos in the Haleigh time-stamped thread!

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Angel I can never find how to get to the time stamp section without you providing a link....could you tell me how to search for it?

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Angel I can never find how to get to the time stamp section without you providing a link....could you tell me how to search for it?

Thank you my friend
I've got a moment and would to happy to show you how to get to the TimeStamped Threads inside our Forensic Astrology Forum.


No matter 'what' astro thread you are in-whichever of the case studies you're reading, simply scroll to the very top of the page.
Look just below the large Websleuths. com logo

It looks just like this and reads:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community .... Current Events ... Forensic Astrology


Place your mouse on the Forensic Astrology heading, give it a single left click and it will take you to a listing of ALL threads within our Astro forum, that is specific cases, the Time Stamped threads for several of the cases ( all cases do not require a Time-Stamp Thread ), Library, Mundane, Case Briefings etc.

hope this has been helpful
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Here is the link to Haleigh's Time-Stamped thread Oldsoul2 & everyone else who couldn't find it:

Astrology-HALEIGH TimeStamped Media,Doc Links*NO DISCUSSIONS*
Astrology-HALEIGH TimeStamped Media,Doc Links*NO DISCUSSIONS* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


ETA: Thanks Fifth we both posted almost at the same time. Thanks for adding the additional information that not all cases have a Time-Stamped Thread etc.



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I was listening to Blog Talk Radio last Sunday. It was mentioned by Leonard Padilla and Cobra that Crystal's husband/stepbrother has been involved in moving and hiding children from family to family before. They believe that HaLeigh is in Wisconsin with far flung relatives. Anything on Chad that you see?
Wasn't it TJ Hart and Cobra and not Leonard that talked about that? That is what they said and Roxanne had other child/children before she married Chad, plus Chad had that 2 year RO against him for her and her children. They also said Chad was not given a LDT till a couple of weeks after the search in Baker County. Seems to me like he would be one of the first ones to have gotten one.
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