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Old 09-03-2009, 03:22 PM
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Exclamation please look at these two pictures of Garrido!

please compare this picture
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-police-report

and this picture (at the bottom of Michaela Garacht's Charley project page.. the center picture of the perp)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._michaela.html

to me it is a dead ringer!
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OK, I know this is totally OT, but a couple of threads here including this one keep putting me in mind of "Dexter" - have any of you ever seen that show? Dexter is a serial killer who only kills evil people, perverts and other murderers... a number of people and situations in this case could have come right out of a Dexter episode.
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:36 PM
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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/261848...69568#32669892

Today show video on the 1972 rape case that was dropped
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please compare this picture
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-police-report

and this picture (at the bottom of Michaela Garacht's Charley project page.. the center picture of the perp)
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._michaela.html

to me it is a dead ringer!
Good find!

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Old 09-03-2009, 04:11 PM
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The only problem with that theory is that Michaela's abductor supposedly had acne pockmarking his face. It was described as his #1 most defining characteristic (via Michaela's mother's website). I have never seen any acne on Philip Garrido. At least certainly not to the extent where it was the first thing you would notice about him.
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See below, here's a picture of Garrido from around 1988 (when Michaela went missing). Doesn't look like the right guy (acne faced, long haired) to me at all.


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The only problem with that theory is that Michaela's abductor supposedly had acne pockmarking his face. It was described as his #1 most defining characteristic (via Michaela's mother's website). I have never seen any acne on Philip Garrido. At least certainly not to the extent where it was the first thing you would notice about him.
There is an age problem, too. Michaela's abductor is described as being between 18 and 24 years old, and in 1988 Garrido was 37 years old. Big discrepancy there. His appearance in 1976 after his arrest in Reno does bear a striking resemblance to the 1988 sketch, however. But there's 12 years' difference here to reconcile.
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His 1988 photo looks a lot like the revised composite, without the acne, of course. He could have shaved off the mustache, but his smooth face is a definite problem. Was it Michaela's friend who provided the description of the abductor? If so, could she perhaps have noticed the moles on the nose and imagined more acne on the face? The witness only had a few seconds to get a look.


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In the revised composite drawing, the suspect has shorter hair. When was that second composite made? Could there have also been some uncertainty as to the "pockmarked" face?

If you take away the acne and add a mustache, the revised composite is similar to Garrido in the 1988 photo.
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Michaela and Jaycee

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~food for thought... (need to find the link where I read this) Michaela's mom said the second shorter hair sketch in black and white was more acurate than the color one. The funny thing is (to me at least) that the color sketch resembles Garrido in the 70's and the black and white resembles in the 80's. Also, note that the car witnessed in the abduction of Michaela was a "sedan" (not able to copy and paste from the charley project page or would do so)
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:50 PM
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startling similarities in age progression photos of Michaela and Jaycee

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I hear you! And look at the age progression pictures of Michaela at circa age 29: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._michaela.html

and compare it to the age progressed picture of Jaycee Lee at circa age 26 http://www.rgj.com/article/20090827/...ook-like-today
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Michaela and Jaycee/age progressions

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~food for thought... (need to find the link where I read this) Michaela's mom said the second shorter hair sketch in black and white was more accurate than the color one. The funny thing is (to me at least) that the color sketch resembles Garrido in the 70's and the black and white resembles in the 80's. Also, note that the car witnessed in the abduction of Michaela was a "sedan" (not able to copy and paste from the charley project page or would do so)
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Thanks Joe! Kinda makes the hair stand up doesn't it?
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~food for thought... (need to find the link where I read this) Michaela's mom said the second shorter hair sketch in black and white was more acurate than the color one. The funny thing is (to me at least) that the color sketch resembles Garrido in the 70's and the black and white resembles in the 80's. Also, note that the car witnessed in the abduction of Michaela was a "sedan" (not able to copy and paste from the charley project page or would do so)
I copied it for you by hand.

"...a large older model American-made sedan. It was possibly a four-door vehicle and was cream, gold, or tan in color...the front bumper was battered. It appeared to be run-down."
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Where did Garrido live prior to 1976?

Garrido attended Liberty Union High School in Brentwood, reportedly graduating in 1969. Brentwood was primarily an agricultural community with a few thousand residents back then, while Antioch, then considered an industrial area, had a population of around 25 - 30,000 (remembering off the top of my head). Antioch had a great "cruise" in the downtown area in the 70's-80's, that attracted a lot of kids from sleepy Brentwood/Oakley every weekend.

In 2009, Manuel is living in Brentwood. We might assume he has lived in Brentwood since the late 1960's since Garrido graduated high school there in 1969.

Garrido's parents, Patricia and Manuel, reportedly divorce January 1971.

In 1972, Garrido, 21, picks up 2 young teens at the library, which is near Antioch Junior High and Antioch Senior High schools on 18th Street. He takes them back to his house ~ which had a shed in the backyard ~ then takes one of the girls to a motel in Antioch, again on 18th Street, where he sexually assaulted her.

According to records a WS'er found, Patricia and her second husband bought the house on Walnut Avenue in 1979, which is coincidentally off 18th Street. Is this correct?

If so, where was the house with the shed Garrido used in 1972?



Also, he married his first wife, who knew him from high school in Brentwood, in 1973, reportedly in Reno, and he committed the 1976 rape in Reno, so we might assume he was living there the entire three years, but do we know that for sure?
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Garrido offered advice on avoiding abductions, client says

I just saw this in the O.C Register:

"Phillip Garrido once printed up a child safety tip sheet for a children's safety advocate, and threw in some extra advice on how kids could avoid kidnappers, according to a news report...."

"Gomes told the station that when she hired Garrido to print up a child-safety tip sheet, he had an extra tip: "'Children really shouldn't be walking to the bus stop by themselves. Children are no match for adults,'" Gomes remembered him saying."

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/g...03-child-gomes
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I just saw this in the O.C Register:

"Phillip Garrido once printed up a child safety tip sheet for a children's safety advocate, and threw in some extra advice on how kids could avoid kidnappers, according to a news report...."

"Gomes told the station that when she hired Garrido to print up a child-safety tip sheet, he had an extra tip: "'Children really shouldn't be walking to the bus stop by themselves. Children are no match for adults,'" Gomes remembered him saying."

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/g...03-child-gomes
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EVERY TIME I READ THIS THREAD and hear of yet one more poor child that was harmed all I want to say is.
ENOUGH!!!
JUST KILLTHE SOBMF
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No I don't have any forgiveness..... none.....
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EVERY TIME I READ THIS THREAD and hear of yet one more poor child that was harmed all I want to say is.
ENOUGH!!!
JUST KILLTHE SOBMF
PLEASE
No I don't have any forgiveness..... none.....
Just short of that sentiment: If he is given 50 years as a sentence, then 50 years is what he should serve. None of this good behavior business. Of course he had good behavior....No women or children to victimize in jail.

Makes me sick everytime these guys get out early and do the same thing again.
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This makes the HOW MANY times he's raped? He's admitted in court records his twisted, sick, sexual deviations. NOPE!!! No More Time! Just put him 6 feet under. I don't want to pay to house, clothe and feed this animal one more day. I've had to beg, borrow and steal (well not really steal) to get the MUCH NEEDED dental work I needed. This used to be a standard joke around my house (because my teeth were really really bad for about 3 years) - that I should just go and rob the 7-11 - once I was caught all I would have to say is "My teeth hurt" and I would have gotten all the work I needed FREE OF CHARGE!!! So, nope - PG is just like a rabid dog, or an animal that has turned vicious and attacked - PUT HIM DOWN. He won't suffer (but who would care?)

I have my new teeth to pay off and I certainly can't afford my share to house an animal for the rest of his sorry life.
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Garrido's moles look like Damien's 666 in the Omen

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Just short of that sentiment: If he is given 50 years as a sentence, then 50 years is what he should serve. None of this good behavior business. Of course he had good behavior....No women or children to victimize in jail.

Makes me sick everytime these guys get out early and do the same thing again.
He passed some stupid psychological test called the SFS with flying colors, scored a 9 out of a possible 11. It indicated he was a "low risk" to offend again.

Stupid psychologists! He had them all fooled. He's canny and very intelligent, knows how to play the game. He's probably planning his elaborate insanity/diminished-capacity defense at this moment.
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