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Old 09-05-2009, 01:33 AM
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"Revolting Rock-and-Roll Rapist Sang About Little Girls: Friend (of Garrido)"

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/breakin...-57464642.html

This is really vile.
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:04 AM
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I hear you! And look at the age progression pictures of Michaela at circa age 29: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._michaela.html

and compare it to the age progressed picture of Jaycee Lee at circa age 26 http://www.rgj.com/article/20090827/...ook-like-today
Thanks for doing those side-by sides. Remarkable.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:36 PM
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In a psychological evaluation after the first year of Garrido's sentence, psychologist J.B. Kiehlbauch wrote that Garrido had joined the Jehovah's Witnesses and became a fervent practitioner.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...9.story?page=3

Isn't Jehoveh's Witnesses a pretty strict religion? Somehow I just don't see how he made the connection between the religion and what he did.
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Old 09-06-2009, 05:14 AM
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I think LE should look into Rose Cole being a victim of Garrido's.
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Old 09-06-2009, 06:45 PM
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The entire WORLD is talking about this case and yet, there is NO INFORMATION forthcoming from authorities. NOTHING. Excuse me but WTF? How many levels of authority are scrambling around right now trying to cover their butts for 18 (yes, EIGHTEEN) years of total ineptitude! Parole officers being polite and not wanting to rock the boat. How pathetic. What a travesty of justice! This case sickens me and I hope that once this family overcomes the euphoria of having finally reconciled with their child that they will find the anger to sue and sue and sue every friggin' authority involved that failed them!

Am I angry? He77 yes! And the American public should be too! What kind of stoopid-azzed "parole" programs are they implementing.

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Old 09-06-2009, 06:46 PM
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I think LE should look into Rose Cole being a victim of Garrido's.
Yes. And I think that LE should just friggin wake the frig up - in general! Pathetic!
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:17 PM
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The entire WORLD is talking about this case and yet, there is NO INFORMATION forthcoming from authorities. NOTHING. Excuse me but WTF?
First off, it's really none of our business how Jaycee and the family are doing. So I have no problem at all with the complete media blackout. Just because we follow and talk about the case doesn't mean we have special privileges to hear all the juicy details about everything. If we aren't family members, we are outsiders, and we always will be. We're not supposed to be getting updates right now.

Secondly, I imagine that LE is putting together a pretty solid case against the Garridos at the moment for when this case inevitably goes to trial. So it's in their best interest to clam up and not release any media links to anyone. The more stuff gets leaked, the more probability there is for a biased jury or a mistrial. I applaud the media and law enforcement for not giving out any details right about now. The trial is going to be sordid and juicy enough as it is (PG will ensure to that), so you might as well do everything you can to ensure that it goes down without any accusations of media tampering.

Frankly I think it's refreshing that every little detail isn't being leaked to us for a change. Keep up the good work, authorities. Lock these b*stards away for good!
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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The entire WORLD is talking about this case and yet, there is NO INFORMATION forthcoming from authorities. NOTHING. Excuse me but WTF? How many levels of authority are scrambling around right now trying to cover their butts for 18 (yes, EIGHTEEN) years of total ineptitude! Parole officers being polite and not wanting to rock the boat. How pathetic. What a travesty of justice! This case sickens me and I hope that once this family overcomes the euphoria of having finally reconciled with their child that they will find the anger to sue and sue and sue every friggin' authority involved that failed them!

Am I angry? He77 yes! And the American public should be too! What kind of stoopid-azzed "parole" programs are they implementing.

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I agree that the family should sue at some point. What might have happened had Garrido’s 'voices' told him to end his crimes in a different way?



http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09...y5288269.shtml


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"There is new insight that has the potential of helping people who hear voices to possibly stop and re-examine their thinking before committing a violent act on themselves and/or other," Garrido wrote.

It states that those who hear voices are not sick, but "have by design the freedom to monitor what others do not detect."
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:30 PM
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Garrido basically showed up at a parole interview with his skanky wife and three children who had never been seen by these lame-azzed parole officers before. hello. red flag! woo hooo. someone finally payed attention. IMO - Garrido was fed up (for whatever reason he may have had) and basically gave himself up! If he hadn't sent his manifesto to the FBI (the week before!) and then showed himself to the parole officer a week later...this would have gone on!

He basically turned himself in. There is no authority involved prior to him showing up at Berkely who had a friggin' clue!

How pathetically lame is that!??? This guy was a convicted rapist/kidnapper on parole for crying out loud! And the lame-azzed folks who were responsible for following up on him noticed CHIT ALL in 18 (EIGHTEEN) friggin' years!

BARF!

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Old 09-08-2009, 03:15 AM
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Post Garrido Morphed Into Alleged Sex Predator

Posted: 1:11 pm PDT September 7, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO -- Attending high school in a rural suburb east of San Francisco, Phillip Garrido stood apart from the crowd that studied hard, played sports, basked in popularity and set sights on college. Feeling the drumbeat of the 1960s San Francisco acid rock scene, he was one of the first to let his hair grow long and to smoke marijuana. "He was in the background, not one of the most popular," recalled former classmate Steve Lucchesi. "I thought he was weird, but not that weird... I'm not sure if he was high all the time or saw things differently. But something went haywire." more at link: http://www.ktvu.com/news/20778278/detail.html
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Old 10-18-2009, 02:41 AM
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I am still trying to figure out why this parole violation information hasn't been made public. Shouldn't the arrest record, the prison facility he was in, etc., all be public???
Also, I'm findingit very curious that the federal bureau of prisons lists his name as Phillip Craig Garrido (below) and the El Dorado County court documents, list him as Phillip Greg Garrido, what's up with that?

According to the federal bureau of prisons Garrido was released from prison:

1. PHILLIP CRAIG GARRIDO 36377-136 58-White-M 08-31-1993 RELEASED

That appears to be the only public record I can find about the whole incident. Anyone else having better luck, like maybe where he was arrested, by which LE?
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:32 PM
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In a psychological evaluation after the first year of Garrido's sentence, psychologist J.B. Kiehlbauch wrote that Garrido had joined the Jehovah's Witnesses and became a fervent practitioner.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...9.story?page=3

Isn't Jehoveh's Witnesses a pretty strict religion? Somehow I just don't see how he made the connection between the religion and what he did.
This is actually a great article to revisit. I think the common theme with JW's is the patriarchal beliefs.

Also, I am reminded that Garrido not only claims he was using pornography, but prostitutes. "God healed me from pornography and prostitutes"

How brazen that he told others he and his wife just had a baby. Didn't anyone question Nancy having a baby?
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SAN FRANCISCO -- Attending high school in a rural suburb east of San Francisco, Phillip Garrido stood apart from the crowd that studied hard, played sports, basked in popularity and set sights on college. Feeling the drumbeat of the 1960s San Francisco acid rock scene, he was one of the first to let his hair grow long and to smoke marijuana. "He was in the background, not one of the most popular," recalled former classmate Steve Lucchesi. "I thought he was weird, but not that weird... I'm not sure if he was high all the time or saw things differently. But something went haywire." more at link: http://www.ktvu.com/news/20778278/detail.html
Didn't go back to that article yet, but people are trying to figure out exactly what car Garrido was driving in high school. Maybe it mentions it here or someone else in his high school could be asked. Of course, I'm sure DMV records could be checked by LE to see if Garrido possibly is connected to other crimes where a blue vehicle was reported.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:35 PM
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According to this artcle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BANS19GU6D.DTL


In 1993 - two years after he allegedly kidnapped Dugard - Garrido violated his federal parole by possessing marijuana. He served a stint in prison from April to August that year.

Powell said her agency was never informed of the violation and instead kept getting positive reports from federal authorities.

"We could have revoked him," she said. "We definitely would have done something."

California took over Garrido's parole supervision in 1999. He didn't record a single violation, said state parole spokesman Gordon Hinkle.



Okay, Powell was a spokesperson for the Nevada Department of Public Safety. I would like to know who arrested him for the parole violation and where it occurred. Was it at his home by his parole officer? Was it a CHP doing a traffic violation? Was it even in CA, let alone Contra Costa County? Where is this information and why isn't it public? This could give us more information about what PG was up to in 1993. Obviously, he hadn't "found his religion and turned his life around" yet, because he was still smokin' dope. Wouldn't that be the year he impregnated Jaycee with her oldest daughter? Was also selling drugs, was he transporting? This info has to be out there somewhere, right? Somebody arrested this guy, I think the reporters oughta' be all over this.

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I'm not saying that pg didn't kidnap Michaela, however, as I have listed other places, look at the resemblance between Michaelas kidnapper and Johnny Gosch's kidnapper.

http://www.johnnygosch.com/
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I'm not saying that pg didn't kidnap Michaela, however, as I have listed other places, look at the resemblance between Michaelas kidnapper and Johnny Gosch's kidnapper.

http://www.johnnygosch.com/
I've noticed this before and I've seen it mentioned. They are exactly the same. Johnny's story is very interesting but a very, very tangled web. Many layers and the deeper you go, the more perplexed you become.
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I've noticed this before and I've seen it mentioned. They are exactly the same. Johnny's story is very interesting but a very, very tangled web. Many layers and the deeper you go, the more perplexed you become.
But what I find interesting is that the Hayward PD has told Dr. Doogie there is no connection and if pg gets ruled out, they "may" pursue the lead.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:27 PM
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I've noticed this before and I've seen it mentioned. They are exactly the same. Johnny's story is very interesting but a very, very tangled web. Many layers and the deeper you go, the more perplexed you become.
That's for sure! I doubt the Garrido case would lead to anything similar to Johnny Gosch's story, but I sometimes wonder, especially with the Molino's involvement with PG.
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But what I find interesting is that the Hayward PD has told Dr. Doogie there is no connection and if pg gets ruled out, they "may" pursue the lead.
I'd assume then that they must know something that we don't, yes?
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I'd assume then that they must know something that we don't, yes?
PG's MO is girls/women. That may be one reason.
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This is actually a great article to revisit. I think the common theme with JW's is the patriarchal beliefs.

Also, I am reminded that Garrido not only claims he was using pornography, but prostitutes. "God healed me from pornography and prostitutes"

How brazen that he told others he and his wife just had a baby. Didn't anyone question Nancy having a baby?
Or didn't they question that the baby looked more like pg's daughter, from another mother. then like nancy? Or did he tell everyone the story of the girls being from former lovers....which would have occured while he was still married to nancy and apparantly she forgave him for repeatedly. Hello!!??!!
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Or didn't they question that the baby looked more like pg's daughter, from another mother. then like nancy? Or did he tell everyone the story of the girls being from former lovers....which would have occured while he was still married to nancy and apparantly she forgave him for repeatedly. Hello!!??!!
You have to wonder about Patricia. Manuel said she told him that in high school Phillip had a habit of looking for virgins to bring home and defrock. Maybe he said an obsession.
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"Perreira, now Christine Murphy, has said since Garrido's arrest that their 1973 marriage turned ugly not long after they eloped from Brentwood, with him beating her and denying rumors that he had raped a girl in high school. "He tried to gouge my eyes out," she told a TV reporter."

I thought he was older than high school when he drugged and raped the girl from the library. Could this be another rape?

Interesting article from back near the start of the investigation. Here's a quote I hadn't heard before, "It's such a terrible shame," said deli owner Lindsey. "The Garridos were always a respectable family here in Brentwood.

"You just never know, do you?"
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"He was arrested in 1972 on suspicion of drugging and raping a 14-year-old girl in Antioch, a case dropped after the victim declined to testify."

http://cbs5.com/national/phillip.gar...2.1168944.html

Garrido graduated from high school in 1969

I think the article is saying the girl was in high school? But barely at 14?
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