FL-Shannon Dedrick 7 Months Found Under Babysitter's Bed ALIVE!! #5

[CarrieBean]

Judge orders case plan for Baby Shannon's parents

CHIPLEY — A circuit judge on Tuesday ordered a case plan for 9-month-old Shannon Dedrick’s parents, listing several preconditions to meet before the state considers granting custody.

Even if baby Shannon’s mother, Crystina Mercer, follows the orders, she might not get her daughter back.

“What we do, and what the law requires, is that we do offer parents that opportunity, that chance,” said Courtney Peel, the state Department of Children and Families’ 14th Circuit operations administrator.

http://www.newsherald.com/news/paren...baby-plan.html

[Tricia]

They offer the parents a chance? WTF???? There should be no way in hell these parents are allowed in the same city as Shannon let alone have custody of her.

[CarrieBean]

"...and what the law requires..."

It's a procedure they have to follow. Doesn't mean she will get full custody of Shannon. Of course they will take into consideration the outcome of the trial and Tina's mental state...which none of us have much of a clue about.

I commend the Grandmother here for fighting for her Granddaughter and Daughter.

[LogicalMinds]

Originally Posted by Tricia

They offer the parents a chance? WTF???? There should be no way in hell these parents are allowed in the same city as Shannon let alone have custody of her.

THANK YOU!

I don't see how they could ever "trust" them again...

really I will say it again...this was a miracle but NO thanks to the mother, Tina

she had 5 days, and I am sure LE, social workers, psycholgists, her family etc...trying to get her to say what happened to her baby
She didn't do squat..it is NO thanks to her that Shannon is alive

as far as the grandmother goes (her husband is not the biological grandfather)....I would be concerned that
Tina would be with them...and around the baby

the grandmother works, has a business?? and then who will watch the baby...Tina??

Hate to say it, but what if something happens to the grandmother...who gets the baby?? Tina??

and what might she do in the future ??? I don't know but I don't feel she should be anywhere around kids

[Amster]

Originally Posted by CarrieBean

Judge orders case plan for Baby Shannon's parents

CHIPLEY — A circuit judge on Tuesday ordered a case plan for 9-month-old Shannon Dedrick’s parents, listing several preconditions to meet before the state considers granting custody.

Even if baby Shannon’s mother, Crystina Mercer, follows the orders, she might not get her daughter back.

“What we do, and what the law requires, is that we do offer parents that opportunity, that chance,” said Courtney Peel, the state Department of Children and Families’ 14th Circuit operations administrator.

http://www.newsherald.com/news/paren...baby-plan.html

Ridiculous!! They have to offer the chance and opportunity to the parents?? What about Shannon?? What chance and opportunity will be offered to her??

[LogicalMinds]

Originally Posted by Amster

Where is Shannons daddy?

A better question might be WHO is Shannon's Daddy??

I will say this..."Rusty" was so upset and wanted to find Shannon, that was obvious from all the news reports...while Tina was cool and pretty much unconcerned

many reports of that...from LE, neighbors...of course Tina knew pretty much where Shannon was...I THINK (JMO) that she filed the FALSE 911 to appease the worried Rusty
SSI said Tina was ok to live alone...why would we suddenly think that Tina would now be amiable and responsible?? Apparently Tina wanted to NOT take her meds, was out running around (locals say she left the baby with various people while she went out with a girlfriend)...smoking pot (and cigs) around the baby....just ridiculous to even think she should be around a baby

[BeanE]

Originally Posted by shannons amma

Tina is still in custody and was not released on her felony charges based on susan bakers testimony only, no other evidence. Tina will get to visit with shannon on christmas. I do not have custody of shannon yet but will soon. Me and my husbands home has been carefully investigated as well as every other aspect of our lives and we have been approved for placement of shannon in our home. We are just waiting patiently for her arrival. We are truely blessed.

Shannons amma, this is such wonderful news! I could not be happier for Shannon. I am so happy she has you - and that you have her! :-)

Bless all of you. Have a wonderful Christmas!

[Ransom]

Originally Posted by CarrieBean

"...and what the law requires..."

It's a procedure they have to follow. Doesn't mean she will get full custody of Shannon. Of course they will take into consideration the outcome of the trial and Tina's mental state...which none of us have much of a clue about.

I commend the Grandmother here for fighting for her Granddaughter and Daughter.

Me too. Amazing the peeps that can't/won't read the link in it's entirety. I learned something. Snip/post what you want and that's all that MOST read. SAD oh and ETA Pathetic.

[LogicalMinds]

I personally think this child would be better off with a new family....away from Tina

In the meantime, the little girl is “thriving” in foster care, Peel said

I bet she is....her own mother took a picture of her with a bottle of orange soda and bag of huggies...now she is dressed cute and has a picture with a teddy bear

Shannon (obviously) does have some challenges...in the very first articles about the case Shannon was described as having "developmental problems" and her large head was noted
Many have wondered if the poor parenting had left Shannon with "attachment disorder"....how much love and care did she recieve ??
What did Susan Baker do to her when her own mother dropped her off there so much or allowed Baker to watch her (from all reports, Tina also let others watch her infant....she liked her own freedom I guess)

Now she has the stigma of being the "baby in the box"...the foster mother covers her little face to avoid curiosity seekers

I have posted relevant info on the Turner's Syndrome (what little Haileigh had...many variations)

To me Tina is NO different from the Runaway Bride or the Balloon Boy's parents....worse in fact since she put her child in danger, and had five days to tell the truth but never did

amazing that people would like to see young Katie O'Conner charged with search efforts that she did NOT ask for, want to see her friends charged...but seem to be totally sympathetic to Tina??

JMO Tina should lose all parental rights to this baby, do the "time" for her crime (in prison or a mental institution, whatever)...PLUS be charged with the costs of the search

I don't think the family or Tina should benefit in any way from this farce..

more fake cases like this and pretty soon we will see a lessened interest in missing people and helping them

and oh yeah...the "Runaway Bride" had mental issues too....yawn

[LogicalMinds]

I do have to say I am in agreement with most of the "comments' on the News Herald site

which are the same as most of the comments I have seen on other blogs, forums regarding this case...

I personally think the majority of people are not in favor of seeing Tina getting custody...or just getting a hug and released....some here may want to see her let out for Christmas (??? how?? just drop charges?) but read the comments here>>>

http://www.newsherald.com/news/paren...baby-plan.html

[CarrieBean]

Originally Posted by Ransom

Me too. Amazing the peeps that can't/won't read the link in it's entirety. I learned something. Snip/post what you want and that's all that MOST read. SAD oh and ETA Pathetic.

I wonder too, if everyone read the full article.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

[LogicalMinds]

?? what is that I am "missing" in the article?? Please enlighten me..thanks

[LogicalMinds]

Well...I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the "full article" means??

I am once again struck how many "bad mothers" there are out there...when I see the case of little Sarah whose "guardian" (aunt) hooked up with a known sex offender
I am sure that Sarah's bio mother was another "bad mother"....
now this precious little girl is dead

of course, Shannon was a miracle...no thanks to Tina

but what will Tina do in the future?? she doesn't even know who the dad is, she supposedly stayed with a guy who was abusive (according to her family)....she wouldn't take her meds..why do some think she will change??

let's face it...why do these predators get with women with kids?? Tina's looks, financial status, and personality doesn't seem to be something that would attract quality guys...but she will find some loser who is interested in her little girl down the line I am sure
and so the cycle continues

I hope the state does the right thing and stops this farce and puts this child up for adoption with a family who can love her, care for her, and afford the special help she needs

I don't think Tina should ever be around Shannon again...and if her family gets the baby, Tina will be there when she gets out of jail

and who knows what Tina might do next time?? She would be vulnerable to a predator IMHO...or she might also endanger her child in numerous ways

JMO

[shannons amma]

Tina's Psyciatrist has diagnosed tina with Microcephaley meaning a small skull and the brain has stopped growing at a young age attributing to her child like behavior and poor judgement. She also believes that tina has brain damage which will be determined by further brain scans that have been ordered. She does not feel that tina belongs in jail and thinks that she should be judged accordingly. She also highly recommended that tina be allowed to visit her daughter on christmas stating that it would be good for the mother and for the child. Tina will never have custody of her daughter again but she will always be shannons mother and shannon will always be her daughter. GOD planned it that way not man. And there is no reason why shannon should not live with me and be around her family that loves her.

[LogicalMinds]

BTW....every one of the posts on the newspaper article are from people who feel the same way I do...read them and see

I am also asking about what I am "missing" in that article?? apparently no one will tell me
I have read the entire article....if you are going to tell me I am "missing" something, why not post what that "something" is?? I am not into playing games..thanks

whatever a defense hired shrink/doctor says will have to be judged in court..again it is not a done deal

with all the ssi , problems etc that Tina had all these years amazing that a "diagnosis" comes at age 27 when she is in jail facing prison time??

mental illness, low IQ, emotional immaturity ??? Many people in prison have these conditions....not a "get out of jail card" to me

[burbqueen]

In defense of Logical Minds I think she was just expressing her opinion. She is blunt and to the point. Which some people may not appreciate, but i do. So it's all good.

I for one feel that reproduction is not a right. I feel that the only way anyone male or female should reproduce is cause they stable and capable or being a parent. If you cannot then your parental rights should be taken away and just cause you physically gave birth or produced a child doesnt really mean much. Not all birth parents are real parents.

If you are so physically or mentally handicapped and you cannot take care of your kid then bye bye kid. No child should suffer due to parental selfishness. I know there are people who want a child or they find themselves pregnant, but a parent maybe well meaning but if you cant fulfill your parental obligation than give the child to someone who can.

Logical Minds is right. There are so many mentally ill people in jail. So should they all be excused? If you are mentally ill, get some help. Get on meds. Commit yourself, if it's that severe, but dont harm other people.

[Kimberlyd125]

I am so sorry to hear that Shannons Amma will not be posting here anymore. I really looked forward to her updates.

I will continue to pray for Shannons Amma, Shannon, and Tina.

I do not feel Tina should ever get custody of Shannon again, but I do hope her grandma does. That family loves her no matter what Tina did or did not do IMO.


Anyway, continued love and prayers to Shannon and her grandma.

[dnrslucky1]

Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125

I am so sorry to hear that Shannons Amma will not be posting here anymore. I really looked forward to her updates.

I will continue to pray for Shannons Amma, Shannon, and Tina.

I do not feel Tina should ever get custody of Shannon again, but I do hope her grandma does. That family loves her no matter what Tina did or did not do IMO.


Anyway, continued love and prayers to Shannon and her grandma.

I will miss her updates also! Its a shame she was treated so terribly on this forum!

[LogicalMinds]

Originally Posted by dnrslucky1

I will miss her updates also! Its a shame she was treated so terribly on this forum!

We can get ACCURATE UPDATES from the media

[LogicalMinds]

Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125

I am so sorry to hear that Shannons Amma will not be posting here anymore. I really looked forward to her updates.

I will continue to pray for Shannons Amma, Shannon, and Tina.

I do not feel Tina should ever get custody of Shannon again, but I do hope her grandma does. That family loves her no matter what Tina did or did not do IMO.


Anyway, continued love and prayers to Shannon and her grandma.

how would you propose to keep Shannon safe from Tina and whatever/whoever might next "influence" Tina? Tina doesn't seem to be a "fit" parent to me. I also don't feel she should just skate on the criminal charges

What makes Tina so different from anyone arrested for shoplifting or bad checks ?? Many people with bi-polar do get into financial /legal problems...and their bi-polar is NOT a "mitigating" circumstance

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

[Kimberlyd125]

My answers in red Bold.

Originally Posted by LogicalMinds

how would you propose to keep Shannon safe from Tina and whatever/whoever might next "influence" Tina? Tina doesn't seem to be a "fit" parent to me. I've said before, I don't think Tina should ever have custody!!!! But, if her grandma's house has already been approved, I think she should get her and be monitered.

I also don't feel she should just skate on the criminal charges I agree with the no skateing thing, but IMO this has to go thru due process. She will be evalutated by drs from both sides. Anyway, you know how that works. I hope the system works for justice. If that means Tina does some time, so be it.

What makes Tina so different from anyone arrested for shoplifting or bad checks ?? Many people with bi-polar do get into financial /legal problems...and their bi-polar is NOT a "mitigating" circumstance

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time I agree, I never said she shouldn't IMO. My concern is for Shannon and IMO she needs to be with family. IMO Shannons Amma did the best she could do and many doors were slammed in her face. Shannon was failed by many, but IMO her grandma wasn't one of them. I hope she can love her and take care of her forever.

[LogicalMinds]

Kimberley....I appreciate your response..

the thing is that some (including shannon's amma) seem to want NO prison for Tina, want shannon to go to the gma....and want Tina to somehow live with them also?

so with both of them ....how can she keep Shannon safe from Tina? who can trust Tina's "judgment" to baby sit her own child??

Tina's past history shows that she could be easily influenced to say the least....why should we think anything will really change??

In the Neveah case, the gma had legal custody but was allowing her daughter to live there too, she brought around variouis "bad" guys (bad decisions) and most likely that led to Neveah kidnapped and murdered

[Kimberlyd125]

Ok my daughter stole the laptop so I'm posting from my phone. Not easy. Lol

I don't think Tina would be babysitting. Also, you brought up the Nevaeh case again and I just don't see how you can judge every grandma on what Nevaeh's grandma did. IMO
I think Shannons Amma is aware that Tina is not fit to care for Shannon. IIRC she tried to tell several agencies in Florida that before any of this happened and she was told if Tina could brush her teeth she could care for her baby ( or something like that).

I just don't see this grandma trusting Tina with Shannon.

[LogicalMinds]

Originally Posted by Kimberlyd125

Ok my daughter stole the laptop so I'm posting from my phone. Not easy. Lol

I don't think Tina would be babysitting. Also, you brought up the Nevaeh case again and I just don't see how you can judge every grandma on what Nevaeh's grandma did. IMO
I think Shannons Amma is aware that Tina is not fit to care for Shannon. IIRC she tried to tell several agencies in Florida that before any of this happened and she was told if Tina could brush her teeth she could care for her baby ( or something like that).

I just don't see this grandma trusting Tina with Shannon.

Actually....my posts have been more about Tina...the grandmother seems to "support" her daughter (her right) and wants "help" for her, and others here have said they hope that "gma gets Shannon and Tina"......that sounds dangerous to me


can't have it both ways....wants Tina to do no prison time....get "help"...get released to her care...and also have Shannon

I said in my first post on this thread...where was the loving family while Tina was in a roach infested trailer with Shannon for 7 months, didn't even have a phone?

People jumped on me and said that the gma "had a business, a family, a husband in Texas"...could not support them or just drop everything to come take care of Tina and Shannon (tho to her credit she did call DFC...which in Florida we know doesn't seem to do much)

I have no idea of the family finances..but who will care for Shannon if the gma is working her business?? In time Tina would be there....and if she falls back into her old ways who knows what might happen? Or if she really is as immature as we are told, as mentally ill...then what??

I have not heard any proposal that would eliminate Tina from the equation

oh yeah...she won't "have custody" but she will be living right there
AND I THINK SHE SHOULD NOT BE AROUND THAT CHILD PERIOD

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't see why a working grandma couldn't find childcare just like millions of working moms do.