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Some Crime Scene Items reports, from the FBI and OCSO -
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uummm......i dont know how to read these very well...but up at the top of page 7....
next to known blood batch #2 .....its hand written Semen swatch batch # 21????
am i reading that right....i havent read any more yet....and these are the first doc ive looked at yet today.....but known semen???
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And testosterone! What on earth could this mean?
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Well...if I'm reading correctly..."Benzodiazepines" and "Ketamine" found via GC/MS...same as "Special K" - page 13 of the 63 (when you put # in on top) Negative for "other" 11 drugs tested for...
http://www.clickorlando.com/download...6/21540377.pdf
I had said early on about one of her friends listed in her phone as "Special K"...although I had dismissed it, also, because the person's name began with a "K", too.....
Some info on the drug...
http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/d...o/ketamine.php
ETA : Same person who visited KC in jail and said "if anything happened to her (sic) I'd just die"....same person KC/Caylee went for a walk with on 6/12 or 6/14....
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Awesome!
Just for people's information:
As of 12:25 EST, the other document source (clickorlando/news6 at http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21538827/detail.html ) has broken links for the following out of the 34 documents:
6,9,11,22,23
ETA: looks like they're becoming unbroken. (6,9,23 are the only ones still missing as of 12:45 EST).
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uummm......i dont know how to read these very well...but up at the top of page 7....
next to known blood batch #2 .....its hand written Semen swatch batch # 21????
am i reading that right....i havent read any more yet....and these are the first doc ive looked at yet today.....but known semen???
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I was wondering the same thing!!!
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Am I reading correctly known semen patch is from Winnie the Pooh blanket?
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Ok, that semen statement seems to be standard on all the forms, but was missing on that one and therefore written in. Nothing about actually finding semen.
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Well...if I'm reading correctly..."Benzodiazepines" and "Ketamine" found via GC/MS...same as "Special K" - page 13 of the 63 (when you put # in on top) Negative for "other" 11 drugs tested for...
http://www.clickorlando.com/download...6/21540377.pdf
I had said early on about one of her friends listed in her phone as "Special K"...although I had dismissed it, also, because the person's name began with a "K", too.....
Some info on the drug...
http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/d...o/ketamine.php
ETA : Same person who visited KC in jail and said "if anything happened to her (sic) I'd just die"....same person KC/Caylee went for a walk with on 6/12 or 6/14.... |
I thought Special K was Stephanie K. The other friend was Christina. Not that it matters, but I was just trying to clarify.
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For reference, page numbers associated with document parts:
ETA: Looks like 10,281-10,339 is missing from the news sites. (They should be between Part 1 and Part 2). Hmm.
ETA, part deux: Oops, turns out nothing's actually missing. Thanks
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Can anyone clarify the blood and semen on the reports? I am so confused!
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I am (per usual) behind all you folks, but has ANYBODY found in the documents an identifying descriptor for Q304???
If so...PLEASE PM me!
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I thought Special K was Stephanie K. The other friend was Christina. Not that it matters, but I was just trying to clarify.
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Now you got me...I gotta go back again....when I found KC's phone book from her cell....I honestly didn't think of SK....welllll, see what ya did!! NOW, I have to go back again!! LOL J/K I need to go make sure and update my post.
BUT...I DID get the part right about Kristina and the jail and the walk...I think!!! LOL
This is where I got the "K" for Kristina....
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...202173.mp3file
ETA : KC has Kristina under "Kristina Cxxxxxx".....plus there IS still the "Special K" there.....sorrry to everyone for making that mistake with the phone #!!!
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6761980/Cell-Phone-Records
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For reference, page numbers associated with document parts:
ETA: Looks like 10,281-10,339 is missing from the news sites. (They should be between Part 1 and Part 2). Hmm. |
That is because 10269-10280 was inadvertently left out of the last doc dump. I brought it to their attention so it would be included the next time, which is today's.
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Well, here's one guess - men who have low testosterone can supplement in cream form or via injection. The latter comes in a small vial and is administered via a disposable syringe on a monthly basis. I would think that if some male in the household had an Rx for this, CA being a nurse could administer it.
Reuse syringe, still has traces of testosterone in it (which is a thick liquid).
Do we know if it was a needle type syringe or an oral med type?
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chloroform, testosterone, ethanol and water.
all of this was found in the syringe?
ethanol?
testosterone.....maybe from a used syringe from someone with a prescription for this
chloroform.......to use on caylee
water....part of the mix....maybe from tyring to rinse out the syringe to reuse....
but why ethanol?.......why would that be in there?
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chloroform, testosterone, ethanol and water.
all of this was found in the syringe?
ethanol?
testosterone.....maybe from a used syringe from someone with a prescription for this
chloroform.......to use on caylee
water....part of the mix....maybe from tyring to rinse out the syringe to reuse....
but why ethanol?.......why would that be in there?
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I'm thinking the ethanol could be the preservative
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Kenosha's theory of a male that may have had an rx for testosterone injections seems very reasonable.. (NOT uncommon at all) Often it is prescribed for males with low testosterone levels due to increased prostate cancer risks, among other related problems. The syringe was capped and had a needle. The needle comes off in the cap when you unscrew it from the syringe.. She could have made Chloroform from a recipe she found online (wasn't one of the ingredients we saw was alcohol..not rubbing alcohol but the type you buy at a hardware store?-which would be a reason for the Ethanol component, I believe water was also an ingredient)...She steals the syringe from the home...uses it to draw up the Chloroform she made with needle on the syringe, recaps it and stores it in the syringe. It doesn't mean she injected it into Caylee.. the needle is just stored in the cap when you twist off the cap. If you pull off the cap...the needle stays on the syringe. She could squirt the liquid out onto a rag or whatever she used. It isn't a big syringe...looks like a 3cc...I would have to find the pic and look again.. How much Chloroform is needed to knock someone out on a rag I wonder.
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Inadvertent synthesis of chloroform... (OR MADE ON PURPOSE)
The haloform reaction can also occur inadvertently in domestic settings. Sodium hypochlorite solution (chlorine bleach) mixed with common household liquids such as acetone, butanone, ethanol, or isopropyl alcohol may produce some chloroform, in addition to other compounds such as chloroacetone, or dichloroacetone.
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Well, here's one guess - men who have low testosterone can supplement in cream form or via injection. The latter comes in a small vial and is administered via a disposable syringe on a monthly basis. I would think that if some male in the household had an Rx for this, CA being a nurse could administer it.
Reuse syringe, still has traces of testosterone in it (which is a thick liquid).
Do we know if it was a needle type syringe or an oral med type?
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whisperOFwings on the other thread researched it:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...t=91214&page=5
Post #103
That particular hair loss product contains testosterone dissolved in ethanol and diluted in sterile water.
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Found it! Q304 - swab from handle of comb found in backpack.
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Part 11, (Thanks Panama for breakdown) Page 10835,: 2 black plastic garbage bags with yellow handles, N, garage wall, upper shelf, inside dog crate.
1 "Whitney" design canvas/vinyl laundry bag, N, garage wall, upper shelf. I do not believe this is what Cindy is talking about in her depo, calling it a ball bag. This bag is the same as the one the remains were found in, only square, and hopefully were sold in a set. They can determine if they are both from the same lot. Page 10963
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Well...if I'm reading correctly..."Benzodiazepines" and "Ketamine" found via GC/MS...same as "Special K" - page 13 of the 63 (when you put # in on top) Negative for "other" 11 drugs tested for...
http://www.clickorlando.com/download...6/21540377.pdf
I had said early on about one of her friends listed in her phone as "Special K"...although I had dismissed it, also, because the person's name began with a "K", too.....
Some info on the drug...
http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/d...o/ketamine.php
ETA : Same person who visited KC in jail and said "if anything happened to her (sic) I'd just die"....same person KC/Caylee went for a walk with on 6/12 or 6/14.... |
I think this info about drugs possibly found in Caylee's hair needs it own thread. I'm not sure how to interpret the report at all and would love to hear what some knowledgeable posters have to say.
You know, nevermind. After reading it again, I think it is stating the hair was negative for ALL drugs tested. If you look at the list of drugs following the statement there is only 11 total different drugs they tested for. So, hair was clean.
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I think this info about drugs possibly found in Caylee's hair needs it own thread. I'm not sure how to interpret the report at all and would love to hear what some knowledgeable posters have to say.
You know, nevermind. After reading it again, I think it is stating the hair was negative for ALL drugs tested. If you look at the list of drugs following the statement there is only 11 total different drugs they tested for. So, hair was clean.
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If I'm not mistaken...the hair would NOT show chemicals/drugs if they were recently administered. It takes awhile for those compounds to make it into hair. Basically if KC gave her drugs/chemicals one time and she died soon after, then most likely no trace would be found in hair. JMO
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Are the Anthony's made aware of the contents of these documents before they are released to the media?
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