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It's no wonder KC's attorneys are throwing everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, at the ceiling and waiting to see what sticks. She is DONE!
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Wonder where she got the packaged syringe with needle attached ? It's not like you can just buy these at the drug store (well, unless you are a diabetic and she's not)...plus this does not look like an insulin syringe.
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Would also love to know IF the lot number on the syringe was a lot number supplied to the office CA worked in.
The medical companies do keep track of this info in case of a recall.
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Would also love to know IF the lot number on the syringe was a lot number supplied to the office CA worked in.
The medical companies do keep track of this info in case of a recall.
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That was my first thought, too.
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The syringes often come with the needle attached (all together in the packet) There were times you used the needle just as a cap. Twisted it off to squirt from the syringe and put teh needle back on just to close it and have a place for the needle itself.
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I don't see Casey putting the needle back on the syringe after she used it, if it was taken off in the first place.
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I hope they found DNA on the needle, touch DNA and fingerprints on the syringe since it would have been protected from the elements encased in the bottle.
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Wonder where she got the packaged syringe with needle attached ? It's not like you can just buy these at the drug store (well, unless you are a diabetic and she's not)...plus this does not look like an insulin syringe.
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Ex-medical person here. I have been out of the field for 3 years and i STILL have syringes in my med closet. Have one in the kitchen too. A 100cc syringe and a 10 guauge needle is great for injecting turkeys before you fry them.  I would bet that the were in teh A house as well.
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Wonder where she got the packaged syringe with needle attached ? It's not like you can just buy these at the drug store (well, unless you are a diabetic and she's not)...plus this does not look like an insulin syringe.
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either way, this is the smoking gun.
Chloroform at the remains site Plus chlorform in car plus choroform search on the internet = toast
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No, no, no.....that's Chlorophyll! <snort> Gawwwd...Cindy already told us this!!!
dadgum bamboo eating, puking yorkie's are seriously causing Cindy and KC some grief!
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Or one of the roomates? Or something going on at Fusion? I wonder what else we still don't know!!
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I feel sick and relieved? I have always wondered about the syringe.
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Ex-medical person here. I have been out of the field for 3 years and i STILL have syringes in my med closet. Have one in the kitchen too. A 100cc syringe and a 10 guauge needle is great for injecting turkeys before you fry them. I would bet that the were in teh A house as well. |
Yes medical person here too...I know that many med professionals keep supplies around and it would seem, to me, very logical that she got it from the nurse in the house.
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Well, according to google searches, there are lots of reasons for injecting chloroform. Anything from killing bug larvae in the nose to causing certain death. Who knew?
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I wish the pictures of the syringe and packaging were better....
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Wonder where she got the packaged syringe with needle attached ? It's not like you can just buy these at the drug store (well, unless you are a diabetic and she's not)...plus this does not look like an insulin syringe.
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Ex-medical person here. I have been out of the field for 3 years and i STILL have syringes in my med closet. Have one in the kitchen too. A 100cc syringe and a 10 guauge needle is great for injecting turkeys before you fry them. I would bet that the were in teh A house as well. |
I had a few left over from fertility shots in tha bummy (years and years ago).
When we were done we smashed the remaining needles with a hammer, just to be safe.
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Real chemists do it in the hood....and periodically on the table.
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Don't syringes come with those do-it-yourself refill kits for printer ink cartridges? Seems like they might have purchased one of those at some point since they do a LOT of printing (remember all that stuff the lady found printed out in their trash?). I mean they all (especially KC) spend a LOT of time on the computer.
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Good thought! I can see that.
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After learning about this, I actually felt horrible......this baby probably did not just fall asleep and die. No, this sounds like a horrible, painful death. 
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I'm blown away by this. I really thought this was just trash! My best guess is that one of her friends was taking steriods and thats where she got the needle. I bet she got it from the trash bag that was found in her trunk.
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If this syringe is involved in the case, it's hard to think it was in the bag KC brought out from WalMart (they don't just sell them over the counter without a script, do they?), although this is certainly something she might have gotten ahold of otherwise. Do you think CA would have had any reason to have them in the house?
If this syringe does have definite connections, it strenghtens the element of premeditation because it is not something readily available or normally on hand and would have had to have been procured far ahead of time.
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Wonder where she got the packaged syringe with needle attached ? It's not like you can just buy these at the drug store (well, unless you are a diabetic and she's not)...plus this does not look like an insulin syringe.
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with Cindy being a nurse? my husband is a hospice nurse, I could go to his car and get a syringe.
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Well, according to google searches, there are lots of reasons for injecting chloroform. Anything from killing bug larvae in the nose to causing certain death. Who knew?
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And since you found that through an internet search for chloroform, that means others who searched "chloroform" might also have read that injecting it would cause certain death.
Now, more than ever, I wish the body had been found while there was still soft tissue to examine...
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I feel the same way. Poor Caylee. Just like the bugs, I'm glad this will help convict her, but my God, how could you do that?
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This from WFTV..
"Records show the Gatorade bottle they found was partially full of a fluid that was later through testing determined to contain chloroform and cleaning fluid. Inside the bottle was a plastic pouch containing a syringe where investigators also found chloroform."
http://www.wftv.com/news/21539718/detail.html
OK maybe I have been out of the loop, but I don't remember hearing about cleaning fluid also found in the gatorade bottle. Is this new info ? Anyway, if there was cleaning fluid like ammonia or whatever it could mean she made the chloroform herself ?
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