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Old 11-11-2009, 08:26 AM
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OH - Cuyahoga County - WhtMale (UP #5992), 55-65, Jul'09, William J Coughlin

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https://identifyus.org/cases/5992

this man was discovered lying face up at the home of a friend, deceased, with apparent assault injuries on his face.

He had Hate/Love tattooed on the knuckles of both hands. A shy but eagle-eyed sleuther has pulled a possible match for him in a missing person who disappeared about 7 years prior to our UID's discovery.

Thomas Michael Nickel
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200503449S


Thomas does not have any tattoos listed, but his height, weight and appearance are a match for the Doe. What sold me was the ears-what do you guys think???
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:55 AM
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Looks close but Thomas, I assume, was a businessman and I can't imagine that someone professional would have the tattoos described. Though a lot can happen in 4 years. Maybe his capped front teeth could provide a link. And why would he be in Ohio? I'll work on this one, too.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:02 AM
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Other possibilities
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200503250S
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200300786W
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In my not very experience opinion, I don't think they match because the guy in the identifyus pic has more hair.. Thomas' hair was already very receded in the theyaremissed pic. Dead guy also appears to have a widows peak going on. Also Thomas is reported to have teeth caps. IDK what caps look like.. and the morgue pic shows his teeth well. As for the ears, I couldn't see them well enough to form an opinion.

BTW, your second link didn't work for me, believe.

I think Thomas was an attorney: http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/....aspx?x=126145

I am wondering why the 'friend' at the house he was found didn't know his name?

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Thomas Michael Nickel:
I think the unidentified person is a good match.

In looking at the date Mr Nickel was suspended from the CA bar,
it was 2002 and it was for non compliance for support.
Maybe this happened after he disappeared and of course, not there
to pay anything.
Maybe it happened before he disappeared and his life was not the way he thought it would be and he left.

My opinion: Go for the match. No dental. But fingerprints, as
he was a member of the bar association.
And more than likely has family for dna.

questions:
If the uid was found at home of friend, the friend would have given a name and an idea of what kind of job this man had, etc.
And obviously, LE ran fingerprints and he did come up in the system with a criminal record.

And
buffetoflies: how or why did you think to check the bar association?
I would not have thought of that.?
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believe 99, I did a sbs comparison for you, notice the hairlines? Good luck, after an hour of searching this is all I've come up with.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ey_joseph.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dragon_paul.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moon_steven.html
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buffetoflies: how or why did you think to check the bar association?
I would not have thought of that.?
Eh? I put quotes around his name and goggled. 3rd link from the bottom on the 1st results page.
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This is strange believe09... I picked this guy out last night to try to find.

I am new at this and was just looking on namus and I put this one in my tracker.

good luck... hope you find who he is.
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believe 99, I did a sbs comparison for you, notice the hairlines? Good luck, after an hour of searching this is all I've come up with.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ey_joseph.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dragon_paul.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moon_steven.html


I don't see any of these as a match..

UID I am looking at his ears , crease between his eyes. had to of started few years ago to get so deep.. jmo
he has a bump on his nose . wonder if from the beating or just was normal that way.??
his teeth mouth area ..

now the guy in the photo beside the uid is very close. he was reported missing in 2002 make him 59yrs
so he would of had to lived a good 7 yrs missing as being the uid.

I can see a match if add some yrs to nickel guy..

pretty close..
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I think the match with the hairline, age/size and coloring is strinking. even the mustaches are similar, although UID's is more 'biker' like since it appears a little longer at the sides of the mouth. it would be most helpful to learn the circumstances surrounding both men- why did Thomas Nickel disappear (i.e. were there LE theories- was he mixed up in some business dealings that went awry, etc.) or did he just leave to start over? drugs? depression? I did google and I agree it appears he was an attorney, but there are no articles on his disappearance anywhere. he must have dependents since his law license was suspended by the CA bar for failure to pay dependent support, probably due to his disappearance. that suggests his family believes he left of his own accord, or they wouldn't have filed anything against him for failure to pay child support. (reminds me of Christine and Nicholas Francisco- he was a missing person but she went ahead and filed divorce, filed suits against him, etc.)
for the UID it does seem odd that his 'friend' didn't have any further info, but something about his appearance and the circumstances of his death suggest to me he was probably a drinker or drug abuser, maybe went home with someone from the bar that night? the tattoos make me wonder if this isn't Nickel- now that we know he was possibly an attorney, that type of tattoo doesn't fit. unless Nickel had a burgeoning drug or alcohol problem, left it all in CA and drifted east, ending up in OH using and hanging with nefarious characters and meeting his demise.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:39 PM
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I think the match with the hairline, age/size and coloring is strinking. even the mustaches are similar, although UID's is more 'biker' like since it appears a little longer at the sides of the mouth. it would be most helpful to learn the circumstances surrounding both men- why did Thomas Nickel disappear (i.e. were there LE theories- was he mixed up in some business dealings that went awry, etc.) or did he just leave to start over? drugs? depression? I did google and I agree it appears he was an attorney, but there are no articles on his disappearance anywhere. he must have dependents since his law license was suspended by the CA bar for failure to pay dependent support, probably due to his disappearance. that suggests his family believes he left of his own accord, or they wouldn't have filed anything against him for failure to pay child support. (reminds me of Christine and Nicholas Francisco- he was a missing person but she went ahead and filed divorce, filed suits against him, etc.)
for the UID it does seem odd that his 'friend' didn't have any further info, but something about his appearance and the circumstances of his death suggest to me he was probably a drinker or drug abuser, maybe went home with someone from the bar that night? the tattoos make me wonder if this isn't Nickel- now that we know he was possibly an attorney, that type of tattoo doesn't fit. unless Nickel had a burgeoning drug or alcohol problem, left it all in CA and drifted east, ending up in OH using and hanging with nefarious characters and meeting his demise.
Thank you for finally posting, polly!!!! This kind but shy sleuther was the reason I set up the thread, folks. I wrote the ME and suggested there might be an easy rule in/out on the case so I will let you guys know!!!
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Since there aren't any stats for this guy I need a few more eyes to take a look.




Dale Hansik: W/M, LKA- 11/2008, from Joplin, MO

Charley Page:http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hansink_dale.html

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believe 99, I did a sbs comparison for you, notice the hairlines? Good luck, after an hour of searching this is all I've come up with.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ey_joseph.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dragon_paul.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moon_steven.html

I'm not seeing any of these as a match, but I wanted to say thank you for the side by side, I was really torn on Tom, it looks like a really good match.
Since the side by side was done on Adobe (thank you so much) I took a straight line from the top of the ear across and over the eyebrow.
On the UID, the line from the ear went right through the eyebrow. On Tom, it was above the eyebrow completely. So the ears aren't set the same. I don't think that changes after death, but I could be wrong.
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Since there aren't any stats for this guy I need a few more eyes to take a look.

Did anyone ever submit the ex-lawyer guy?


Dale Hansik: W/M, LKA- 11/2008, from Joplin, MO

Charley Page:http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hansink_dale.html

UID Namus File:https://identifyus.org/cases/5992

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I think Dale has piercings (or at least one, I can't really tell on the other side). I didn't see that in the NAMUS report and I tried blowing up the morgue photo, and couldn't tell if he has earlobe scars. And to be perfectly honest, I can't tell if I'm seeing an earring or a weird reflection.
I'm not sure about the jawline either, but it looks like Dale was rather fleshy in the face and if he lost weight....I don't know.


However, they both have dark nose hair (yup, I said nose hair.)
Dale's ears line up with his eyebrows.
The lips are a good match as far as fullness and shape.
The thick eyebrows.

I really wish there were a straight on shot of the Doe, the side angle is making it tougher.
Let me sleep on it. He's going to be in my head all night, anyway.

ETA: Dale is #13 on this list at the link. It shows more of his neck and that looks very similar.
http://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/CJ51/Sear...&county=Jasper
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Since there aren't any stats for this guy I need a few more eyes to take a look.




Dale Hansik: W/M, LKA- 11/2008, from Joplin, MO

Charley Page:http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hansink_dale.html

UID Namus File:https://identifyus.org/cases/5992

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I too wish UID was faced different.. and more pics of missing Dale Hansink .. I searched and nothing on him just the other link missing. and it is so small I can't see it. I want to see Dale Hansink adams apple.. yep. ok the link notmykids had for him, shows adams apple and Dale has a big one too. just have to imagine uid with less weight and more gray hair..

I wonder is Dale Hansink has tattoo's on his knuckles?

the nose looks close. different angle.

have to realize that picture of Dale Hansink might not of been recent...

I tried to add a few years in my mind and thinned his hair some and more gray.

I looked at hair line and looks like a match there if you add few years to Dale.

sometimes on some people once they start to turn gray it goes fast..

is that a widows peak ?? his hairline. I need to study hair lines.. cowlicks etc.

I see the ears match .
the eye sockets match
don't know about color can't see dale's
in thumbnail pic I could see better and looked kinda blue
chin match
and if study mouth it matches the way holding bottom lip

I would send in .. I see so much of a match that would bug me not to..

they have dna of uid.. but so little to go on for dale w. hansink..
I would try it snuf..

looks good to me. what about calling missouri for more info?



seems someone reported dale w. hansink missing right? wonder why no info to speak of on him? and only on the state mp LE site and charley project.. no where else.. that I could find.

I sure went wow when I saw the sxs...
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I did call MO St Patrol MP unit yesterday, they called back today and said they had taken a peek at the NamUs file and agree there are enough similarities for them to compare the two. The demographics also match up so they're going to compare fingerprints, so it'll be a fast rule in/out.
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Just a note that I observed about Mr. Nickel - it looks like he lost his license prior to his disappearance. Date on the CalBar website is 8/19/02, date of disappearance is 10/29/09.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the loss of his license was a contributing factor in some way to his disappearance.
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When reading this thread, one thing caught my eye, and triggered a memory. I remembered seeing a missing person featured on The North American Missing Persons Network with the same tattoos. I went on the site, and retrieved the profile. His name is Micheal Fredrick Reynolds, and he has been missing from Albuquerque, New Mexico since September 4, 2001. He has a medical condition, and was last seen in the company of a male. His nickname is Mike, but he may go by the name Miguel.

Mike's Profiles:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/reynolds_michael.html

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200301227W

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https://identifyus.org/cases/5992

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Dale Hansik: W/M, LKA- 11/2008, from Joplin, MO

Charley Page:http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hansink_dale.html

UID Namus File:https://identifyus.org/cases/5992

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Looks good to me, can you email them at Namus and ask about tats? The noses are what makes me think they are a match....
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When reading this thread, one thing caught my eye, and triggered a memory. I remembered seeing a missing person featured on The North American Missing Persons Network with the same tattoos. I went on the site, and retrieved the profile. His name is Micheal Fredrick Reynolds, and he has been missing from Albuquerque, New Mexico since September 4, 2001. He has a medical condition, and was last seen in the company of a male. His nickname is Mike, but he may go by the name Miguel.

Mike's Profiles:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/reynolds_michael.html

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200301227W

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This guy looks close to me...especially the ears. With the matching tattoos I would say this is a definite submit!
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"Love" tattooed on one set of knuckles, "hate" on the other set.

2" difference in height - within acceptable margin of error. Eyebrows match, nose matches, chin matches, even the same style mustache with a little more grey. Looks about 8 years older.

I'd say that's him. Great find, Chan.

You should call the Albuquerque P.D. (as indicated on the NAMPN page) 505-843-7867

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When reading this thread, one thing caught my eye, and triggered a memory. I remembered seeing a missing person featured on The North American Missing Persons Network with the same tattoos. I went on the site, and retrieved the profile. His name is Micheal Fredrick Reynolds, and he has been missing from Albuquerque, New Mexico since September 4, 2001. He has a medical condition, and was last seen in the company of a male. His nickname is Mike, but he may go by the name Miguel.

Mike's Profiles:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/reynolds_michael.html

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200301227W

Unknown Male:

https://identifyus.org/cases/5992
This from Mike's profile:
Appendectomy scar, tattoo on knuckles on one hand saying "love" and on the other hand saying "hate," tattoo on forearm of a "rose" covering an old tattoo, surgical scars on foot, wears upper and lower dentures.
The UID does not wear dentures and does not have the surgical scars or other tattoos. Also there is no description as havRace: White/Hispanic
I don't think this can be a match. Good work though. Keep it up!
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This from Mike's profile:
Appendectomy scar, tattoo on knuckles on one hand saying "love" and on the other hand saying "hate," tattoo on forearm of a "rose" covering an old tattoo, surgical scars on foot, wears upper and lower dentures.
The UID does not wear dentures and does not have the surgical scars or other tattoos. Also there is no description as havRace: White/Hispanic
I don't think this can be a match. Good work though. Keep it up!
I've seen cases in NamUs where the information is incomplete. This could be a case where the person creating the NamUs casefile was in a hurry or very busy and did not bother to enter all identifying information.

For example, Mike's profile indicates full dentures. NamUs doesn't list any information regarding dentals. If it listed dental information, then I'd say it was no match, but they didn't enter any info at all about teeth.

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I didn't see any indication that this possible match was called in, so I went ahead and called it in to Albuquerque's crime stoppers (Ph #505-843-7867). I was given case #CSI-5319257, and instructed to call them back in two weeks for an update on the results.

I cleaned up the morgue photo with a photo-editor and inserted it below next to Mike Reynolds' profile for comparison.

My apologies to Chan_J if I stepped on your toes by calling in your find. BTW, I remind all members: if you call in a potential match, please note on the thread that you have done so. This will help to avoid unnecessary duplication of efforts.

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I didn't see any indication that this possible match was called in, so I went ahead and called it in to Albuquerque's crime stoppers (Ph #505-843-7867). I was given case #CSI-5319257, and instructed to call them back in two weeks for an update on the results.

I cleaned up the morgue photo with a photo-editor and inserted it below next to Mike Reynolds' profile for comparison.

My apologies to Chan_J if I stepped on your toes by calling in your find. BTW, I remind all members: if you call in a potential match, please note on the thread that you have done so. This will help to avoid unnecessary duplication of efforts.

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Did you conact the case manager of the UID to ask if he had dentures or the scar from surgery or if he was possibly Hispanic? Having a specific case worker usually helps as LE doesn't always do a thorough followup. As a former police officer, I know the the paper chase one has to deal with to make a comparison. Now on the 'other side' of sending in submissions I am more cautious because so many times people send in submissions based on a nose or hairline or some other physical feature. LE gets so many, they just toss them aside sometimes (not always) unless it is a high-profile case. Identifiers like dentures, surgical scars and tattoos are usually the first things to list as that may be the only wat to identify short of DNA or fingerprints if any.
Good tip about posting on the board that someone has called it in. I would think that the person who originally posted the possible here would do that to insure they are satisfied they have done all the research so as not to send in something that is similar in facial features. I have made submissions that looked nothing like the UID and found that at least a dozen have send in tips in one week of the same missing person. So it is a good idea to not submit until we are finished with our research. That is one sure way to get LE or ME to pay attention because they know we have done the 'homework' first. Sleuthers here are doing a good job!

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