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Old 11-17-2009, 10:12 AM
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Has anyone heard this before?. Around the 3:30 mark

One of the searchers who found Shaniya says "they got a tip from someone in the parking lot, said they heard on news or something that a guy admitted to killing the child and dumping her near deer carcasses and trash"

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/video?id=7122110
Thank you jamiect! I just watched the video. So, it sounds like McNeill admitted to killing Shaniya, according to the person in the parking lot. Did he (MAM) tell the police or somebody else? Did he maybe kill her for her mother, to hide the evidence hidden in her body since her father expected her to be returned to him? WTH is going on? Who the heck else is involved? There's no way in hedoubletoothpicks that I believe nobody suspected anything beforehand. No way jose. If Coe made the initial suggestion to police that "she wasn't in the living room during the day and wasn't in the living room during the night...you figure it out", then how can he get off scott free for not telling the authorities about his suspicions in the first place? When a child is involved, and there's a suspected crime taking place that goes unreported, especially something of this magnitude, isn't it illegal to just sit on it? Doesn't that person become an accessory to the crime, albeit remotely? I'm at a loss. I usually know the law. My mind is so discombobulated that I can't even think straight. Shaniya is a perfect stranger to me and it appears as though I care about her more than her friggin' mother did. What's wrong with people? I want to know more about Antoinette's sister. Leaking sewage my azz. The feces on Shaniya's blanket probably came from the poor little angels toosh. I am sickened beyond belief.

I implore everyone to educate themselves on this topic. Please. Even if it's painful to read, knowledge is power. The more people garner this knowledge creates combined power. That power can strengthen enough to make changes. There's so many cases on WS, as well as several other amateur detective forums, where people become enraged & say they want to do something...yet never do citing they don't know where to begin. Well I say this, with alot of respect mind you, if you can find Websleuths you can certainly find your White House. Please lobby Congress to make changes. Write your congressmen, governors, senators, etc. No more excuses. Protect the innocent. Please.
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Probably me. I advocate teaching children to break every single rule if they feel threatened.
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I'll have to find the link, but it was definitely Shaniya's older half sister (also Brad's daughter).

She looked about 15 or so. Perhaps she wasn't too close to Shaniya... smiled the whole time. No tears.
C is 17 and lives with her grandparents.

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Old 11-17-2009, 10:13 AM
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?? do we know if that school is in her dad's (nice) neighborhood or in the sleepy hollow area where the momster and her thug friends lived??

if she was enrolled in sept maybe she was with the dad...and taken out in October (they don't know why) to go stay with the biomom for a few weeks?

anyone in Fayetteville know which school /s would be involved?? thanks
Not sure if anyone has answered this, but Morganton Rd Elementary is NOT the school she would attend if living at Sleepy Hollow. Completely different part of town. That is the West Area Elementary district.

Her father lived out of state, perhaps egg donor lived in Morganton rd area when she was enrolled there.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:14 AM
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C is 17 and lives with her grandparents.
Name shortened by me.
That means she is a minor and we need to be careful about using her full name. Her name is in the media, but she is a minor and innocent party.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:17 AM
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SOOO true...however Coey's crackhead sister, neice and their dealer/lover were never charged and never did a day for sitting in a trailer, getting high while hearing that sweet little girl being raped repeatedly

we have the brainiac cops of Florida to thank for that...they didn't read them their "miranda" rights and all their testimony was thrown out

I just hope the cops here are crossing the t's, dotting the 'i's and doing it all by the book....I hope all of these scum are charged and put away and/or given the death penalry
Thank you so much for this tidbit of info.....I never could understand how those monsters were in the same trailer and not heard poor little Jessica Lunsford,,,,and moreso,,,why weren't they prosecuted.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:19 AM
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Not sure if anyone has answered this, but Morganton Rd Elementary is NOT the school she would attend if living at Sleepy Hollow. Completely different part of town. That is the West Area Elementary district.

Her father lived out of state, perhaps egg donor lived in Morganton rd area when she was enrolled there.
I'm sure the mother never lived in that area. Prior to moving in with her sister, she lived on Wall St and then in motels.
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I know I took some heat on Somer's thread, because I do think that a child should be taught to fight, scream, break things, cuss, pee, vomit...whatever they need to do to break free.
My niece, who I essentially raised, still remembers the talk I gave her when she was 10...if they get you in a car, or an alley, or a house, they intend to kill you. You have to fight, no matter what they say...I taught her at 12 that if she was ever being abducted to tell the perp she had herpes. At 13, she decided if she is ever abducted, she's going to get a bite off the perp and swallow it...better chance to ID him.

I may be nuts, but my kids can react, they don't freeze and they aren't intimidated.
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I was away this weekend in DC with my kids and was thinking about Shaniya off and on, hoping they would find her. My heart is aching right now to come back and find she is gone and then seeing those photos of her by the hotel elevator, made me sick to my stomach and I began to cry and then I became so angry, my husband does not want me to come to this website anymore because he says it makes me so sad, but if I don't and I put blinders on and walk around like the world is wonderful - while kids are brutaly killed, raped, sold, hunted and torture -what does that make me? I wish I knew how I could help stop this - I would do anything to help save these children.

I don't understand how these men can be this disgusting, don't they have mother's, sister's, daughters? How can mother's stand by and not protect their sweet babies.

I honestly feel these people just need to be removed fromt his earth - immediately. There should be no chances - zero tolerance when I child is murdered. Maybe then this would stop.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:24 AM
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I hate that this POS reminds me of a young Lauryn Hill.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:24 AM
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They way the law was at the time of Couey's crime, his family could not be held responsible for covering up for him. As a result of the Couey case, the law that previously gave a break to family members who covered and lied for other family members, was changed. It was wrongly thought that you'd expect people close to a perp to cover for them. Alot of states changed the law because of that case. And now LE is going after people like never before for obstruction of justice. My favorite is the, Buy a felon a gun and you do ten years, billboards.
We can only pray this will go for the A's, toooooooo.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:35 AM
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We can only pray this will go for the A's, toooooooo.
There is no button to express how much I agree with that statement.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:36 AM
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YouTube- Nancy 11/16/09 Shaniya Davis Part 2

NG introduces the sister at the 1:48 mark.
Snookie -

Can you remove that video? I'm not sure about copyright, but I don't think Patty G's video should be directly posted here at WS. Maybe I'm wrong and she can chime in later (or one of the mods) but due to copyright issues it could cause problems.

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Old 11-17-2009, 10:37 AM
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The girl's half sister, xxxxxxx Lockhart, told HLN's "Nancy Grace" that she found it difficult to believe Davis had treated her daughter so poorly.
"She seemed like the sweetest woman. She didn't come from much, but ... she had the sweetest voice, she had the sweetest personality, and especially toward me. I would never think that she would do anything like that," said Lockhart, who shared a father with Shaniya.
Lockhart had similar sentiments about the little girl.
"She's so loving and caring, she's always happy and giggling," she said. "Like you would never think anybody would do that to her. She's just the sweetest little girl."

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I x'd out the first name of the half sister as I am not sure how old she is.
I believe she's 17,that was earlier this year,so she might be 18 now.She said she knew the mother did drugs,so there was contact between family members.I am wondering what the LE spokesperson meant about a history of Shaniya living in different family members homes with custody issues.
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Belimom, when you link a YouTube, it embeds it in the post. They set it up that way and it's in the public domain, never been a problem with that.

Every single Youtube link does that.

ETA: I am not a mod, I have just posted a lot of YouTube links. If that's against the rules, I need to know, too. But I have never seen it addressed as against the rules.
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Was Shaniya hostage to the bedroom???
raped and sick all 3 weeks?
COE has to talk to LE, I think he told the story to them!
That is exactly what I think, The feces is a sign of a mortified child, and monster mom telling the aunt she will never see her was also all telling. she knew Shnaiya would tell about her 3 weeks at Mom's house of horrors.. I think that last night the kid got really sick, that is why they got a mule to take the kid to a hotel, but no perp met them there, perps do not go to hotels, The baby may have been having some breathing troubles that scared them and they must have planned a way to get rid of the evidence in he trailer. the mule must have been told step by step what to do.

What I do not understand is; the baby was not gone long enough to be so decomposed that they were not able to ID her immediately. Maybe one of the Legal or Medical eagles can explain that part to me. Thank you in advance.
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Is there a photo thread or links to the pics of her in the hotel? I've only seen it a time or two and would like to look at it again. The blanket was found in the neighbor's trash can, correct?? How much feces was on it, like did she become deceased on it?? I just don't get evil people like this. Not at all.
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Originally Posted by jamiect
Has anyone heard this before?. Around the 3:30 mark

One of the searchers who found Shaniya says "they got a tip from someone in the parking lot, said they heard on news or something that a guy admitted to killing the child and dumping her near deer carcasses and trash"

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/video?id=7122110

I had not heard that before. But let us remember all of this happened on Tuesday morning. He was not arrested until Friday. Werem't we told that his Family talked him in to turning himself in? I think he told someone the details, and Family or not, they are doing the right thing, and telling what they know.
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I wanted to bring over something I posted on the previous thread - I cannot stress how much I recommend that everyone who cares about protecting children (and yourselves) read this book (the video I mention is more appropriate for younger children):
Thank you so much for sharing this synopsis. Protecting the Gift is said to be the best book out there for helping our children avoid tragic situations. My daughters are very little; I'll be sure to watch the video you linked to with them, as well.
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Not sure if anyone has answered this, but Morganton Rd Elementary is NOT the school she would attend if living at Sleepy Hollow. Completely different part of town. That is the West Area Elementary district.

Her father lived out of state, perhaps egg donor lived in Morganton rd area when she was enrolled there.
Her father and aunt live in Fayetteville (he worked out of state and travelled, I think) and I believe that this is the school Shaniya must have attended while living with them (him? her?) before going to AD's.
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I believe she's 17,that was earlier this year,so she might be 18 now.She said she knew the mother did drugs,so there was contact between family members.I am wondering what the LE spokesperson meant about a history of Shaniya living in different family members homes with custody issues.
I am wondering about the same.....
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That is exactly what I think, The feces is a sign of a mortified child...(snipped)....
While that may be true, I think that feces in cases of child molestation could be a sign of damaged muscles and loss of sphincter control... :sad: ... Nursebeeme? Anyone?
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That is exactly what I think, The feces is a sign of a mortified child, and monster mom telling the aunt she will never see her was also all telling. she knew Shnaiya would tell about her 3 weeks at Mom's house of horrors.. I think that last night the kid got really sick, that is why they got a mule to take the kid to a hotel, but no perp met them there, perps do not go to hotels, The baby may have been having some breathing troubles that scared them and they must have planned a way to get rid of the evidence in he trailer. the mule must have bee told step by step what to do.

What I do not understand is; the baby was not gone long enough to be so decomposed that they were not able to ID her immediately. Maybe one of the Legal or Medical eagles can explain that part to me. Thank you in advance.

RE the ID. They did not remove the body until after dark did they? Surely they don't take families to the woods to ID a body? They would wait until they got it to the morgue and clean it up?
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Is there a photo thread or links to the pics of her in the hotel? I've only seen it a time or two and would like to look at it again. The blanket was found in the neighbor's trash can, correct?? How much feces was on it, like did she become deceased on it?? I just don't get evil people like this. Not at all.
It is on the very first thread of this case.
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Snookie -

Can you remove that video? I'm not sure about copyright, but I don't think Patty G's video should be directly posted here at WS. Maybe I'm wrong and she can chime in later (or one of the mods) but due to copyright issues it could cause problems.

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I think anything from YouTube is OK to post it is already on the open domain.
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