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Old 11-17-2009, 10:16 PM
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He was no help. I think it's a 3 or 5. He just said they are in the lobby not inside the elevator. Well duh I knew that. Men!!
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Oh that pic is better. It looks like it is the 1st floor there is only one button.
IDK for sure.
IMO, To me, this looks like a #3, and the bottom button is lite indicating they are going down.
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He was no help. I think it's a 3 or 5. He just said they are in the lobby not inside the elevator. Well duh I knew that. Men!!
I zoomed way in, and it definitely looks like a 3 to me, and the "down" light is lit.
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Can anyone recall the time at which MAM was first taken in or when he is first reported to have been back at his home or whereever, just trying to figure out how quickly he arrived back in Fayetteville...

Gosh I can barely read that light green. I think this is what you want?

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2009...rested-take-2/

Or not since I can't see.

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Old 11-17-2009, 10:17 PM
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It seems like there are major holes in pretty much any theory. I mean, why sell a child in a hotel with surveillance cameras and front desk staff? And if it wasn't a transaction, why bring her to the hotel to assault her?

And why did AD say she last saw Shaniya at 5:30 a.m.---roughly the time MAM would have left the trailer park if he drove straight to the hotel and showed up on camera at 6:11? Why did she try to finger Coe?

Why would she call 911 at 6:53 if she was in on it? Why not at least wait until MAM gave her the "all clear" signal?

And if MAM had Shaniya at the hotel to deliver her to a buyer, why did he take her with almost no clothes, in her sleeping shirt, with basically nothing? Why not at least have a big blanket to conceal her from witnesses?

I hope there are some answers but am more mindful now that these people were drug addled and also, maybe, just plain stupid!
I'm with you on that last question. That was my first thought, too: carrying around a girl of Shaniya's size who is barely dressed through a hotel certainly doesn't seem DISCREET.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:18 PM
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Shaniya's brother on Nancy Grace tonight. He looks like he is around 22 yrs or so. Said his mother died when he was 10 yrs old. Shaniya's dad is his dad and he is also black. He said they never would have allowed Shaniya to go to her mothers if they had known about the invironment she was going to live in. It doesn't sound like anyone checked out the mobile or anything else. The dad's sister was shown on Nancy...probably from a news clip but she didn't say where she dropped Shaniya off at. She said that Shaniya said "I love you aunt Carry and I'll see you soon." The poor aunt had to cut the interview off because she couldn't talk anymore. She has been the mother figure in this little girl's life.

Haven't see hide nor hair of the girlfriend of the dad. I hope she is being supportive of him because he sure needs that.
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I am brain dead from it all. Looks like a 3 on the inside wall. Maybe only down button lit up? They need to turn them loose and let Carey get what they need. I think she could.
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This has nothing to do with sleuthing really, but as a mom to a 3 yr old little girl, i am sick to my stomach at what this child had to endure before she was murdered. I say let the POS "mom" and MAM out in general population in prison...justice will be servedfor sure then!
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The same links many are using to find information...the Cumberland County Sheriff and Cumberland County Detention Center.

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It would be great if you could provide a link when you are stating something you know to have happened or is happening, etc. We would all appreciate it. Thanks so much.
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He was no help. I think it's a 3 or 5. He just said they are in the lobby not inside the elevator. Well duh I knew that. Men!!
That is when I tell mine "It is a good thing you are pretty".
I asked mine for help with a NC map and he told me something equally as obvious and not what I had asked at all.
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Oh that pic is better. It looks like it is the 1st floor there is only one button.
IDK for sure.
Yes there IS only one button you're right.

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Sorry to jump in, but the chat with Mark Klass is going on now, and here is a small piece that may be useful...



<Marc_Klaas> Log onto klaaskids.org, select newsletter, then scroll through the menu's until you see an article directed at human trafficking.
<Marc_Klaas> It will blow your mind.
<Marc_Klaas> Just a taste:
<Marc_Klaas> Domestic sex trafficking is one of the critical issues facing children in America today. Many of the victims are on missing posters, some are not. I have included a few statistics below, and have attached a document that outlines the bigger picture. You will be floored.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:21 PM
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Shaniya's brother on Nancy Grace tonight. He looks like he is around 22 yrs or so. Said his mother died when he was 10 yrs old. Shaniya's dad is his dad and he is also black. He said they never would have allowed Shaniya to go to her mothers if they had known about the invironment she was going to live in. It doesn't sound like anyone checked out the mobile or anything else. The dad's sister was shown on Nancy...probably from a news clip but she didn't say where she dropped Shaniya off at. She said that Shaniya said "I love you aunt Carry and I'll see you soon." The poor aunt had to cut the interview off because she couldn't talk anymore. She has been the mother figure in this little girl's life.

Haven't see hide nor hair of the girlfriend of the dad. I hope she is being supportive of him because he sure needs that.
I thought the sister of this young man, Chyenne said they knew momster was on drugs and wasn't doing all that well? I know the info is always conflicting and confusing at these stages, but it never gets less frustrating.
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I remember it was presumably AD I believe who tipped LE re MAM's family and that they could find him there... but that was several days after the fact. I just really wish we knew when he showed up there!


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You think so? To me, it looks like the top button isn't lit up but the bottom one is.
If you walk in from a parking lot of a hotel, you are usually on a ground floor. Ground floor elevators would have only one button to get it to you, then you choose your floor on the inside of the elevator. Judging from the pic of the hotel, there are only 3 floors if I'm not mistaken. LE knows what room he was in, I'm sure of it. The hotel manager recognized seeing him there with Shaniya but to my knowledge, did not report that McNeil rented the room. That's why they are possibly looking for the person that rented the room. I've got a feeling they have a video snapshot of a blue toyota in the parking lot on the day the room was rented.
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I thought LE got a tip from someone saying to go over to the area that Shaniya was found in and look for her body. I didn't know that this creep led them to her body. Is there a link for that?
I don't have the link handy, but the 'raw' video the moment they discovered her body, when interviewing one of the searchers, he said someone overheard someone in a parkinglot that he'd heard that the guy arrested had confessed to 'killing her' and where to find her body. An area where there were deer carcasses. The guy being interviewed, they recalled walking by that area and how it 'reeked,' so they returned there. It was another, out-of-state group who discovered the child's body.

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I thought the sister of this young man, Chyenne said they knew momster was on drugs and wasn't doing all that well? I know the info is always conflicting and confusing at these stages, but it never gets less frustrating.
???????? I read something totally different.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../16/ng.01.html
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If you walk in from a parking lot of a hotel, you are usually on a ground floor. Ground floor elevators would have only one button to get it to you, then you choose your floor on the inside of the elevator. Judging from the pic of the hotel, there are only 3 floors if I'm not mistaken. LE knows what room he was in, I'm sure of it. The hotel manager recognized seeing him there with Shaniya but to my knowledge, did not report that McNeil rented the room. That's why they are possibly looking for the person that rented the room. I've got a feeling they have a video snapshot of a blue toyota in the parking lot on the day the room was rented.
This is a four story hotel I called and they told me. And I agree McNeill in all likelihood never stopped to register or rent a room himself. So regardless of whether there was a "buyer," it would almost seem implicit he would have to have been IN THE ROOM when this transpired. Also agree hotel, and LE has that blue Toyota on video since even if it belongs to some "buyer," he would never have given a legit name nor his own vehicle ID.



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O/T and I'm sorry if this has been posted....

Kelly Morris's husband has been arrested after skeletal remains found.

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I don't know KiKi. I have an elevator in my building that I use regularly, and I swear there is a button above the one that's lit...but it isn't illuminated...you can just barely see it.

If that's the case (they're on the 3rd floor and going down), does that mean he is in the process of LEAVING the hotel with Shaniya at this point?
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Is it just me or are there other folks here that cannot stand Nancy Grace? And who is that freak of nature with the long dark hair & glasses she has on?

Gah, it's like a bad bad SNL skit.
I appreciate her passion but I get frustrated with her.
It has to be a real bombshell day for me to watch her.
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NC prime destination for human trafficking?Updated at 08:50 PM today

RALEIGH (WTVD) -- The case of Shaniya Davis is shedding light on the problem of human trafficking in North Carolina.

There are several factors making North Carolina a prime destination for traffickers.

Outrage, shock, and anger are a few of the ways many describe the death of 5-year-old Davis, while her mother faces serious charges. But, perhaps even more shocking is the number of children in the country it happens to every year.

There's an estimate that says 200,000 American children are at risk for being trafficked into the sex industry every single year.

Rachel Braver works with the statewide task force called RIPPLE, which addresses human trafficking.

"It's estimated that 600,000 people to 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders every year," Braver said. "North Carolina has several factors that might make it a prime destination for traffickers to prey on victims."

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"Shaniya's brother on Nancy Grace tonight. He looks like he is around 22 yrs or so. Said his mother died when he was 10 yrs old. Shaniya's dad is his dad and he is also black. He said they never would have allowed Shaniya to go to her mothers if they had known about the invironment she was going to live in. "


Ok I'm confused isn't Shaniya's dad white? He did not look black to me. Mom is black which is why she is half black.white. So was Shaniya's older brother also from a black mom?
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Shaniya's brother on Nancy Grace tonight. He looks like he is around 22 yrs or so. Said his mother died when he was 10 yrs old. Shaniya's dad is his dad and he is also black. He said they never would have allowed Shaniya to go to her mothers if they had known about the invironment she was going to live in. It doesn't sound like anyone checked out the mobile or anything else. The dad's sister was shown on Nancy...probably from a news clip but she didn't say where she dropped Shaniya off at. She said that Shaniya said "I love you aunt Carry and I'll see you soon." The poor aunt had to cut the interview off because she couldn't talk anymore. She has been the mother figure in this little girl's life.

Haven't see hide nor hair of the girlfriend of the dad. I hope she is being supportive of him because he sure needs that.
Thanks - I cannot stand to watch NG for reasons I won't get into. From what I have seen of Mr. Lockhart's wife that was murdered, she was black. I have been trying to clarify that the young lady that was shown with Mr. Lockhart and his sister in the very first press conference was in fact Carey Lockhart-Davis's daughter and not the fiance of Mr. Lockhart (if there is in fact a fiance). I got this information from a news link and I am totally link stupid on this night and am unable to find it again ...so, this has to be considered unsubstansiated (can't even spell tonight) information until I can refind the link.

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