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OMG! I was going to post the same thing...that I read your posts in a New York accent! Too funny.
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LLL Linda,
I too read your posts with a NY accent . . . I can just imagine you asking us over for "Coiffeee and Tahwk" . . . . I personally love that I have one person's voice to put with this particular Poster. I am not trying to make fun of you (please don't take this the wrong way), it actually makes WS even more real to me. So many voices from so many different places and we are all here because of one little girl. That is Amazing!!! Thank you to all WS'rs for lending your voice, your thoughts, and your passion for Caylee.
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i thought so, i sowwy if i offended you and you really don't but that's what i heard. but they let you go so fast, i didn't have much to work with. he was like..."*****, we're wrong...cut her off...hang up, hang up!!!".
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Is this online? Where? Thanks!
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Where the heck is the ruling on the decomp?
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Gosh darn it!!!  When I seen this thread was bumped... I ran in as quick as I could thinking we had gotten the ruling.
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Gosh darn it!!! When I seen this thread was bumped... I ran in as quick as I could thinking we had gotten the ruling. |
Sorry...Lola...but it's making me crazy. Are we 100% sure that the chloroform motion didn't include the decomp? I think someone's playing with us...lol.
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Gosh darn it!!! When I seen this thread was bumped... I ran in as quick as I could thinking we had gotten the ruling.
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Not exactly what I was thinking...but close 
HHJP, come on already! 
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Well..........at least ya'll got my heart started!! I could hardly type in my password to get in here! The tension.........Oh Lordy!!! 
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Where the heck is the ruling on the decomp?
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HHMP stated at Monday's hearing that his last ruling would come when it's done. He's doing a lot of research on it.
It was reported by one of the local media that HHMP's ruling on the air tests will likely become a landmark ruling, with other court cases citing this ruling as a precedent.
What I'm wondering is if his ruling will come before jury selection, or can it come next week or any time before trial?
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HHMP stated at Monday's hearing that his last ruling would come when it's done. He's doing a lot of research on it.
It was reported by one of the local media that HHMP's ruling on the air tests will likely become a landmark ruling, with other court cases citing this ruling as a precedent.
What I'm wondering is if his ruling will come before jury selection, or can it come next week or any time before trial?
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Which to me is encouraging. If he had found nothing in the scientific world to support Dr Vass' work/findings then IMO he would have been able to rule it out pretty quickly. I think he is busy writing a landmark opinion.
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Just a guess, but I would think he will want to be done with it by at least tomorrow. He is going to be pretty busy next week.
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On Twitter a bit ago:
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge Perry rules air samples from trunk of #CaseyAnthony car will Be allowed at trial. -fell
Yes!!!!
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On Twitter a bit ago:
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge Perry rules air samples from trunk of #CaseyAnthony car will Be allowed at trial. -fell
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This is just too much excitement for one morning. Waiting for the announcement that Yuri won too. Job interview at 10 am... omg, I have to step away!!
Can't wait to get back and catch up... hopefully read HHJP's order on the air samples. 
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YES!!!!!!!! I really didn't think he'd allow them in! GO HHJP!!!!!
What's that I hear? Is that the last nail in your coffin, Casey?
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Air samples IN!
Looks like Jeff Ashton will be breaking ground again by introducing this technique at trial. Huge blow to the defense.
Judge Rules On Casey 'Sniff Test' Evidence
Judge: Sniff Tests Allowed Into Trial
"Snip" UPDATED: 9:06 am EDT May 9, 2011
Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-ex...n=caseyupdates
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Wow! I just read the opinion. As he said HHJP does his own research. He goes into great details not just on Dr. Vass's published works and report but he heavily references Stephenapolous (sp?)'s works as well.
The way he uses one of those Stephenopolous references is utterly brilliant. It brings in not just the air sampling tests, but brings in that the human noses ability to detect "putrification" events is clear and well documented and well established and is generally accepted science. And that Dr. Vass is considered an expert on smelling such events. (The way he phrased it is fantastic. It undercuts any defense complaints about the odor identification by YM, the tow yard guy and leaves the door wide open and off its hinges for "It smells like theres been a dead body in the damned car!".
Clean sweep for the SA. It's ALL coming in! 
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OMG!!
The air test are coming in!
Oh happy day!!
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Wow! I just read the opinion. As he said HHJP does his own research. He goes into great details not just on Dr. Vass's published works and report but he heavily references Stephenapolous (sp?)'s works as well.
The way he uses one of those Stephenopolous references is utterly brilliant. It brings in not just the air sampling tests, but brings in that the human noses ability to detect "putrification" events is clear and well documented and well established and is generally accepted science. And that Dr. Vass is considered an expert on smelling such events. (The way he phrased it is fantastic. It undercuts any defense complaints about the odor identification by YM, the tow yard guy and leaves the door wide open and off its hinges for "It smells like theres been a dead body in the damned car!".
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Pretty cool, huh?
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Happy Monday Caylee!!
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Words can not describe how I'm feeling! God has answered alot of prayers from alot of ppl so Caylee will have justice. If this not the place for this post feel free to move it
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Yes I am so darned excited!!! I was slightly optimistic and must say that the longer he held out on ruling the more inclined I was to believe he would denie the DT Motion! Way to go HHJBP!!! Utterly brilliant in both his research and the way he wrote the ruling.
I am wondering how many times per day at this time the DT kicks themselves for getting HHJSS kicked off of this case. Cause IMO it was their best and only hope for any kind of mistrial or appeals issues. It aint gonna happen on HHJBP watch for sure...
Justice for Caylee........it is a banner day!
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Wow! 23 Pages to Deny! Great Detail! Way to Go Judge Perry!
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snips from the motion:
"There is no question based upon the evidence and the case law that the GC-MS is able to analyze and determine the chemical composition of the gases (air samples) thet were captured in these studies as a result of human decomposition. Forensic science has recognized for over forty years the ability of the GC-MS to do just what was done by Dr. Vass - the separation and analysis of complex mixtures of volatile organic and inorganic compounds."
(The science is reliable and accepted)
"Thus, Dr. Vass, based upon his background, training and experience could offer opinion testimony concerning the odor he smelled emanating from the sealed container."
(The nose knows)
"In Berry v. CSX Trans,., Inc., 709 S0 2d 552 (Fla. 1st DCA 1998), the court held, under Frye and its Florida progeny, when an expert's opinion is well founded and based upon generally accepted scientific principles and methodology, it is not necessary the expert's opinion be genrally accepted as well. It found that alleged defects in the studies upon which the expert relied go to the weight, rather than the admissibility, of the studies, which is to be considered by the fact finder. The court held "the fact that the experts have all derived their opinions from the same generally-accepted methodology..., but simply diagree upon how to interpret the scientifically (and legally) reliable data, is not a valid reason for excluding the ... experts' opinion altogether." ID. at 571. The court noted "Frye allows opposite opinion testimony from experts relying upon the same generally accepted scientific principles and methodologies" Id. at 567 The court concluded " if there are weaknesses or technical deficiencies in the published epidemiological studies supporting the . . . experts' opinions . . ., those perceived deficiencies are appropriate matters upon which to examine and cross examine the experts at trial and, then, for consideration by the fact finder"
". . . the disagreement between the experts is best resolved by the trier of fact, the jury."
I always had faith that the judge would rule this way. The GC-MS is accepted and reliable and the rest is pure opinion. There is no better an expert to help the jury understand decomposition than Dr. Vass and he will be allowed to testifiy. The defense conceded their entire Frye argument when they stipulated that the GC-MS would not be argued as accepted and reliable and they didn't even know it. WTG, DT!!
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There are no words! This is fabulous!
Dr. Vass' new science being allowed in because of JA's brilliance and determination (& HHJP's & SA's too) is history in the making. (2nd time's a charm~GO JA!!)
Not only will Caylee get her long overdue justice, but I have a feeling Dr. Vass' gadget will squash many more 'misunderstandings' of whether or not there was a dead body in the damn car in the future. . .
I was so excited about jury selection today, but the air tests coming in is indescribable! Today is like Christmas for everyone standing firm behind Caylee Marie!! 
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