UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #3

nursebeeme · #1 12-17-2009, 08:43 PM

please continue here

link to thread two:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=1#post4577209

thread one in this case:

UT-Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community">UT-Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

AmandaReckonwith's photobucket of the case: http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...usan%20Powell/

fran's post on what we have so far:

UT-Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City - Page 30 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community">UT-Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City - Page 30 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Susan's face book:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/g...d=198478842187

PattyG's family presser video:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - UT-Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City; thread # 2

PattyG's exhaustive youtube site with all of her case videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

please note that fran's list is not the updated one... if anyone has the updated one please pm me and I will add it

JennaLee · #2 12-17-2009, 08:54 PM

Thanks for the new thread!

Okay, so check this comment out. It's on page 2 of comments on the following story in the Desert News, about half way down maybe. Just look for the comments around that time and it's easy to find.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...mily-says.html

(Colored, bolded by me)

"Focus on his wife and not on him | 4:50 p.m. Dec. 17, 2009
Re: Would not have tolerated?

"Yes, Silence...that's the key to helping find his wife..."precious silence." How come nobody else thought of that?"

First, Josh Powell hasn't remained silent but his attorney has stated that he has answered questions and given a DNA sample. He has gone out of his way to humor the police. Telling them where he camped won't help them find his wife instead it will only distract the police from a real search.

"Perhaps if the police would stop looking for clues, that would speed things up too, don't ya think?"

Maybe if the police were actually looking for her and focusing on his missing wife and less on him then he wouldn't need an attorney to contact the police to request that they send them the list of questions.

Josh Powell is obviously focused on finding his wife and is not in the mood to allow the police to take the focus off of her and place it on him when she is the one who is missing. Every day that goes by is one less day she may be found alive so I applaud him for his silence"

Now how does this poster know that Josh's attorney is contacting police to get a list of questions? Has that been stated elsewhere? This person appears to be too educated to be some random loser trying to stir the pot.

Any thoughts on if this person might be either the attorney or an assistant? The wording doesn't match the wording we've seen on Josh's website so I don't think it's him, and based on what his family's been saying I don't think it's them either.

Could be nothing though.

gliving · #3 12-17-2009, 09:00 PM

I think he hides her in the heavy box the generator came in, loads it up, gets the kids and goes to dump her. While driving around trying to think what next, he comes up with the camping alibi. If he gets stopped or noticed along the way, he says they're just coming in from camping. Making s'mores and having a good time until weather got bad. He's still a good dad though, taking the kids on a little weekend outing because he's responsible enough to bring a generator in case of emergency. Nothing to see here Officer.

passionflower · #4 12-17-2009, 09:00 PM

I have Larry King on now, covering Susan now

nursebeeme · #5 12-17-2009, 09:01 PM

I couldn't find a mod online to close thread two but did put in a request

passionflower · #6 12-17-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gliving

I think he hides her in the heavy box the generator came in, loads it up, gets the kids and goes to dump her. While driving around trying to think what next, he comes up with the camping alibi. If he gets stopped or noticed along the way, he says they're just coming in from camping. Making s'mores and having a good time until weather got bad. He's still a good dad though, taking the kids on a little weekend outing because he's responsible enough to bring a generator in case of emergency. Nothing to see here Officer.

good observation...........wonder where that box is now!!!

passionflower · #7 12-17-2009, 09:05 PM

Mr. Cox says he is fairly close to JP

I noticd JP in TV interview backs away from the mike.

Mr. Cox doesnt want to speculate about JP, but believes LE

Friend says he is not surprised by POI.............going down right path!

passionflower · #8 12-17-2009, 09:05 PM

Susan would of gone to a friends house if she knew there would be a problem!

nursebeeme · #9 12-17-2009, 09:06 PM

just fyi for the new thread:

house was searched again with forensic teams concurrent with family presser!

and

child confirmed camping trip but le says not to put much weight into it

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34460904...-today_people/

passionflower · #10 12-17-2009, 09:09 PM

Definately something happened, dad says...........
He is confused by the camping trip.
Mr. Cox just wants to find daughter now!
Boy, I hope he gets his wish!
The Cox family NEEDS closure, a proper burial.
Mr. Cox hasn't talked to JP since last Sunday.
Mr. Cox is hoping for the best.
He paused when LK asked him if he trusts JP.........
says he has been my SIL for 8 years and 2 grandsons...........

SusanB · #11 12-17-2009, 09:09 PM

Thanks for the new thread - that one was getting pretty long! I missed the Larry Kinf interview - can someone tell me what happened?

passionflower · #12 12-17-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nursebeeme

just fyi for the new thread:

house was searched again with forensic teams concurrent with family presser!

and

child confirmed camping trip but le says not to put much weight into it

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34460904...-today_people/

All this time has gone by, was house locked in crime scene tape etc?
Was family going in and out?
Could JP have messed with anything?
Wonder why forensic teams just came in.........why not before?
Looking for something from her journal?
Luminal?
It must be THE crime scene!

hellolisakitty · #13 12-17-2009, 09:13 PM

Watching Larry King. Her father... just breaks my heart. He is trying so hard to not speak ill of Josh. Ugh.

passionflower · #14 12-17-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SusanB

Thanks for the new thread - that one was getting pretty long! I missed the Larry Kinf interview - can someone tell me what happened?

my posts 7,8,10 are Larry King

lemonmoussetart · #15 12-17-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by passionflower

All this time has gone by, was house locked in crime scene tape etc?
Was family going in and out?
Could JP have messed with anything?
Wonder why forensic teams just came in.........why not before?
Looking for something from her journal?
Luminal?
It must be THE crime scene!

Passion, cannot find the article at this moment, but I read that LE has been in the Powell home every day since this occured.

Vegas Bride · #16 12-17-2009, 09:19 PM

LK did not cover this for long, switched over to politics.

Here in southern Utah the sun has been out melting some of the snow, I'm hoping this will help uncover something to lead to finding Susan wherever she is.

VB

Fairy1 · #17 12-17-2009, 09:28 PM

Thank you to everyone who related the press conference today as it was happening and posted the links afterward for those of us who couldn't watch live!

Made me cry. My heart goes out to this family that surely knows Susan has been harmed.

Because of the LDS ties, this case has me thinking about a friend I had in high school. She was the youngest (by way) of a very Mormon family. The apple of their eye and their baby. She was brilliant, talented, beautiful and the sweetest girl you could ever meet. When we graduated, she was off to college in St. George, UT. She swore she wasn't getting married until she was at least 30. She wanted to get her degree and establish her career.

As it turned out, she was married just barely a year later - in the Temple -to a guy she had met at college. He was from another state and none of us knew him. He was very handsome and seemed quite charming.

Shortly after they were married, he began physically abusing her. She consulted church and family for help, but NO ONE believed or supported her. Even her adoring family. All advised her to stay in the marriage. Fortunately, this lovely young woman had a fierce independent streak and got out.

Following Susan's case, I shudder to think what might have happened if my friend had stayed in that marriage.

passionflower · #18 12-17-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Bride

LK did not cover this for long, switched over to politics.

Here in southern Utah the sun has been out melting some of the snow, I'm hoping this will help uncover something to lead to finding Susan wherever she is.

VB

Oh that is good news! What is your weather forecast for a few days?
Hope every hunter, Christmas tree cutter and property owner are looking around!!!

JulieR · #19 12-17-2009, 09:33 PM

Someone fresh me here was it reported or said earlier that it looked like Josh had frost bite?

passionflower · #20 12-17-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Bride

LK did not cover this for long, switched over to politics.

Here in southern Utah the sun has been out melting some of the snow, I'm hoping this will help uncover something to lead to finding Susan wherever she is.

VB

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulieR

Someone fresh me here was it reported or said earlier that it looked like Josh had frost bite?

On the very first thread there was a link and reported his hands were red, chapped and frostbitten. We speculated on chemical burns from cleaning to frost bites through gloves.........

passionflower · #21 12-17-2009, 09:42 PM

Are any pressers scheduled? Any more family interviews?
Fmily spokeswoman did talk of a prayer vigil.....at 7pm, tomorrow??

omegagal · #22 12-17-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairy1

Thank you to everyone who related the press conference today as it was happening and posted the links afterward for those of us who couldn't watch live!

Made me cry. My heart goes out to this family that surely knows Susan has been harmed.

Because of the LDS ties, this case has me thinking about a friend I had in high school. She was the youngest (by way) of a very Mormon family. The apple of their eye and their baby. She was brilliant, talented, beautiful and the sweetest girl you could ever meet. When we graduated, she was off to college in St. George, UT. She swore she wasn't getting married until she was at least 30. She wanted to get her degree and establish her career.

As it turned out, she was married just barely a year later - in the Temple -to a guy she had met at college. He was from another state and none of us knew him. He was very handsome and seemed quite charming.

Shortly after they were married, he began physically abusing her. She consulted church and family for help, but NO ONE believed or supported her. Even her adoring family. All advised her to stay in the marriage. Fortunately, this lovely young woman had a fierce independent streak and got out.

Following Susan's case, I shudder to think what might have happened if my friend had stayed in that marriage.

There is so much social pressure to make your marriage work.... I can't begin to tell you the feelings, emotions and blatant expectations to be married you have in the church. You are treated as an outcast if you are an adult and you are single. It's one reason why so many of the young men and young women are becoming inactive, they simply don't believe in the "must get married to a return missionary as soon as you finish your first year of college". Do you know how many freshman females are at BYU and other church affiliated colleges that never return after their first year? I don't, but I bet it's very high. My X (returned from his mission) first year at BYU met a girl, asked her to marry him in a couple of months (in the Temple) and then he asked her to quit college and get a job to support him through his bachelor's and then through BYU Law School. Even after he finished Law School, he asked her to keep working until he could find "the right" job which happened to take 4 years. After a total of 17 years and one child with a VERY abusive husband, he managed to get out pretty clean. No spousal support, joint custody and still had his temple recommend so he could find another victim. Then we as women in the church are not told about the abuse. Luckily I got out barely with my soul but completely financially drained and he's on to his third victim. He just got remarried to another SLC lawyer, 42 never married, no children thinking she is vulnerable and will accept the abuse he dishes out. One day either she is going to kill him or he is going to kill her. But the cycle continues and no one in the church stops the abuser from continuing the cycle. They almost enable it.

harleysnana · #23 12-17-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by passionflower

Oh that is good news! What is your weather forecast for a few days?
Hope every hunter, Christmas tree cutter and property owner are looking around!!!

Today in Northern Utah it was in the 40’s. It’s supposed to be that warm for
the next few days.

Vegas Bride · #24 12-17-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by passionflower

Oh that is good news! What is your weather forecast for a few days?
Hope every hunter, Christmas tree cutter and property owner are looking around!!!

PF the extended forcast will still be winter weather, sunny but high 20's low 30's, but up around SLC it will be high 30's and low 40's.
Somehow Josh just doesn't strike me as someone who would put a lot of effort into hiding a body, I'm thinking more along the lines of Casey A.

I wonder how he's standing up to the pressure now, I imagine it's beginning to get to him.

VB

harleysnana · #25 12-17-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Bride

PF the extended forcast will still be winter weather, sunny but high 20's low 30's, but up around SLC it will be high 30's and low 40's.
Somehow Josh just doesn't strike me as someone who would put a lot of effort into hiding a body, I'm thinking more along the lines of Casey A.

I wonder how he's standing up to the pressure now, I imagine it's beginning to get to him.

VB

Vegas Bride... . I agree! I think he probably pulled off to the side of the road
and dumped her.
The problem is that she could be anywhere from Nevada to Idaho!