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01-08-2010, 09:59 PM
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It's been eons since I've been south of the border, but I didn't think people were screened that closely when going into Mexico? I thought they basically checked everyone's i.d. and whether or not the vehicle has insurance?
I could be wrong. I know there were some laws changed recently for visitors to Mexico but I admit that I didn't pay much attention when it was on the news.
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I only know what I know from family that live in az, but it seems like the stops that are tourist are checked out more. I know alot of the commercial truckers in TX are waived through vs. the tourists going through. There are alot of commercial items from the US that are not allowed to be transported into mexico. Computers and certain titles of books.....go figure. I know the books for a fact because I worked for a NY publisher. How this all plays into Gabriel, I guess I don't.
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01-08-2010, 10:00 PM
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Out here in AZ, we need Mexican insurance to cross the border. Or park on US side to walk over. Haven't gone in several years though.
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01-08-2010, 10:02 PM
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The whole going to Mexico nia Victoria just doesn't make sense to me.
Looking at a map if you were going from San Antonio to Mexico why would you drive to Victoria? There is no reason, Victoria has no MAJOR highways leading in or out, yet there is a striaght shot from San Antonio to Mexico via 35.
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I can only think of two reasons why EJ would be in Victoria. To either look for a place to dump/hide the body/ take Gabe there and kill him there.
OR she passed off Gabe in Victoria to a couple and they headed to Mexico.
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01-08-2010, 10:03 PM
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Out here in AZ, we need Mexican insurance to cross the border. Or park on US side to walk over. Haven't gone in several years though.
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Where did you cross over?
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01-08-2010, 10:04 PM
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Victoria=red herring?
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01-08-2010, 10:04 PM
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In that one picture that they are showing on NG Gabe has cheeks that are this red I have never seen that. For those that seen it is it like chapped or what causes that?
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I'm pretty sure that you need a passport to get into Mexico now.
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you don't need a passport going into Mexico, only leaving Mexico coming into the US.
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01-08-2010, 10:04 PM
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Nogales.
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This article outlines what steps must be taken to get a baby a passport. Of course, those who do this sort of thing know how to get across the border unchecked, or at least get a fake passport (I would think).
http://www.babycenter.com/404_does-m...ssport_7339.bc
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Originally Posted by iluvmua
I can only think of two reasons why EJ would be in Victoria. To either look for a place to dump/hide the body/ take Gabe there and kill him there.
OR she passed off Gabe in Victoria to a couple and they headed to Mexico.
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3. She was on a bus in route to Florida and just passing through.
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01-08-2010, 10:06 PM
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I just wanted to thank all of you who were giving us the play by play of tonight's show.
I use to watch NG alot when the CA case broke...now after finding this site and watching her play kissy face with H.C's dad, i just cannot stand watching the show every night. From the play by play the show was good tonight because NG was not there stopping others from talking or getting the right questions out.
I will have to catch the dvr version tomorrow.
PS. I wish that we could add some sort of smiley face next to some of the really funny posts, instead of just a Thanks.
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01-08-2010, 10:07 PM
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3. She was on a bus in route to Florida and just passing through.
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That's the one I'm going with.
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01-08-2010, 10:07 PM
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Nogales.
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Yeah, that's where my family goes through.
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01-08-2010, 10:08 PM
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Siding with the Victoria issue being a coincidence. I think it's just where the bus happened to be going.
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01-08-2010, 10:08 PM
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3. She was on a bus in route to Florida and just passing through.
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And she was by herself before she got on the bus right? Unless that's where the huge backpack comes in?
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01-08-2010, 10:10 PM
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Victoria=red herring?
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I totally agree with you! I think there's more of a chance of Nancy Grace being in Mexico right now than baby Gabriel.
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01-08-2010, 10:10 PM
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I just don't see her packing a dead baby in a backpack onto a bus.
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01-08-2010, 10:11 PM
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I just don't see her packing a dead baby in a backpack onto a bus.
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I don't either.
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01-08-2010, 10:11 PM
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I can only think of two reasons why EJ would be in Victoria. To either look for a place to dump/hide the body/ take Gabe there and kill him there.
OR she passed off Gabe in Victoria to a couple and they headed to Mexico.
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LE know when the phone pings were. If EJ had her phone in Miami and the pings were after 1pm when she was on the bus then it was just a stray ping from a fairly local tower after the bus had left San Antonio IMO.
If the pings were from much earlier than when the surveilence camera picked up her and her car entering into the motel parking lot and there was feasibly enough time for her to have been driving back from there then I'm sure they'd be all over that area. But wouldn't they have all kinds of pings from her phone?
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01-08-2010, 10:12 PM
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Where did the comment come from that the backpack was huge? I remember the interview with the ticket seller, I thought he said it was just a normal over the shoulders backpack.
Not that you'd need a really big backpack for an 8 month old.
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01-08-2010, 10:12 PM
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I totally agree with you! I think there's more of a chance of Nancy Grace being in Mexico right now than baby Gabriel.
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Yes but for some reason the Smiths seem to want people to think he might be there.
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01-08-2010, 10:13 PM
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God I'm hoping this is some failed adoption brokered by the Smiths. I really do get the hink that the Smiths are baby brokers. Because for all their efforts they only have H*****. Their internet postings seems more like sales pitches to me. It's a thought I'm going to hang on to for now, because that means Gabriel is alive. Please let it be so.....
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01-08-2010, 10:14 PM
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I just can't imagine being Logan right now. I know how anxious I am to know where Baby Gabriel is and to know if he's alright. I can't imagine what's it's like for his father.
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01-08-2010, 10:14 PM
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I just don't see her packing a dead baby in a backpack onto a bus.
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I know we heard that police in FL said she didn't have any "extra" money on her when she was arrested. What DID she have with her when she was arrested? Did she have the backpack? or what it gone.
I like other don't think she packed that baby on the bus with her in a bag. I imagine with was full of at least a change or two of clothes. Was this like a reg. school bag or was it one of those drawstring bags like nike and adidas has made popular lately?
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LE know when the phone pings were. If EJ had her phone in Miami and the pings were after 1pm when she was on the bus then it was just a stray ping from a fairly local tower after the bus had left San Antonio IMO.
If the pings were from much earlier than when the surveilence camera picked up her and her car entering into the motel parking lot and there was feasibly enough time for her to have been driving back from there then I'm sure they'd be all over that area. But wouldn't they have all kinds of pings from her phone?
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I imagine they would
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