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Old 03-10-2010, 11:00 PM
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:09 PM
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But then why would the perps drive all the way to CB and place MC's body at such a public place like CB?

There are dozens of secluded hidden spots between Rock Island Dam and CB which would be far better for disposing of a body.

It just doesn't make sense to launch a boat 5-miles up river and then ditch the body at CB.
I agree. Which leads us back to the killers were somehow familiar with the CB property.

The further the distances between these two places, (and events - (1) body moved (2) fishing trip) -- might have appeared to be a benefit to the killer(s) as well.
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This is my first post but I have been following this sight for awhile. I am a local. I did not know MC but my kids went to Sunnyslope at the same time and MC was a cute little girl.

(snipped down - talking about boat launch on end of Orondo street)

That boat launch is maintained by Chelan County PUD. There is a nice restroom there. The PUD has security cameras that monitor many different areas. I also wonder if there is video of that area, it would make sense.

Sorry, if I didn't post the snipped right.
You did fine rivercity, and THANKS for posting! With those PUD cameras it again makes me wonder why LE bothered to ask for eye-witnesses down there? They saw what happened, they have it recorded. The reason LE stated very early on it wasn't an abduction.

All of the above is speculation unless YOU know otherwise.
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Sorry about Birch Mt. Road. You are right it is dirt. Was thinking you were meaning roads around spec home.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:16 PM
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MACKENZIE COWELL TIMELINE
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09 February 2010 (Tuesday):

3:01 PM - Mackenzie leaves the Academy of Hair Design where she works, gets in her car, and drives away.

3:40 PM - Mackenzie's phone data indicate that her phone is at/near the Riverfront Park boat ramp. While there, the phone receives an incoming text ("hey") and replies with the same message ("hey").

5:42 PM - A cell tower bounces a signal off of MacKenzie's phone. This is the final activity on McKenzie's phone. Location has not been released by investigators.

8:02 PM - Residents report to Rivercom finding a 1997 red Pontiac Grand Prix in Squilchuck area, 2395 Pitcher Canyon Road, parked near a cattle gate, and they tell deputies the car had been there for the previous hour. LE uses the registration info on the car to identify Reid Cowell as the owner, who confirms that his daughter has been out past curfew. One set of foot prints led away from the locked car toward road asphalt. "Somebody got the car there and parked it without anybody knowing about it.” Mackenzie's purse was inside the car, but her cell phone, debit card with $20 on it, and gas card were missing. Initially, Washington State Crime Lab processed the car, but found no indication of anything unusual, and computers at both parents' residences were checked with nothing unusual found. Later, local press says that some evidence has been discovered in the car and sent to the State Crime Lab.


11 February 2010 (Thursday):

FBI Child Abduction Rapid Deployment agents arrive Thursday afternoon to aid in the search for Mackenzie.


12 February 2010 (Friday):

Investigators fax warrants to Facebook, Myspace, and Verizon. A team of 10 detectives search the Pitcher Canyon area and interview and re-interviewing all of Mackenzie's friends and family. Mackenzie's mother and the mother's boyfriend are also being interviewed by the FBI.


13 February 2010 (Saturday):

Mackenzie's body is found near the Columbia River at 156 Crescent Bar Road just inside Douglas County by someone walking along the beach. She was fully clothed and her feet were in the water. The Chelan County Sheriff's spokesman said "It appears she was put there by someone....We've got to find this monster. Anybody who is willing to take a child and commit a crime with that child is a monster." Investigators find evidence of homicide at the scene and inside the vacant home. FBI profilers arrive late Saturday to assist with the investigation.


15 February 2010 (Monday):

A task force made up of local law enforcement and FBI is formed to investigate circumstances surrounding Mackenzie's death. Mackenzie's mother tells NWCN (see video) that she's been instructed by investigators not to discuss the investigation with media.


16 February 2010 (Tuesday):

An autopsy performed by Dr. Gina Fino and witnessed by Dr Steve Clem, Douglas County prosecutor and coroner, and a State Patrol Crime Laboratory’s forensics team confirms that the body is that of Mackenzie Cowell. The autopsy also revealed that her death was a homicide, but the cause of death has not yet been released. Autopsy results will not be released until the person responsible is identified and charged.

Investigators ask that anyone who might have seen someone walking out of Pitcher Canyon on South Methow Street or Squilchuck Highway between 5 p.m. and 8 p.m. on Tuesday, Feb. 9, call the tip line. Captain Jones of the task force looking into 17-year-old Mackenzie Cowell's death said the person who left Cowell's car in the canyon where it was later found likely walked on one of those two roads afterward.


18 February 2010 (Thursday):

Investigators released video footage of the last known sighting of homicide victim Mackenzie Cowell in a Wenatchee-owned parking lot in the hope that someone saw the teenager or her red 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix.

As law enforcement officials advise women to walk in pairs and be more aware of their surroundings, local gun stores report a spike in sales of tasers, mace, and handguns.


22 February 2010 (Monday):

1:36 AM - Someone at Mackenzie's mother's residence calls 911 to report "harassment/threat."

Police scale back task force and await DNA and fingerprint results from state crime lab. Evidence was collected from the Crescent Bar location and from Mackenzie's car. Wenatchee Police Sgt. Cherie Smith said, "But we still don’t know where she was killed,” Smith said. “So we may have another crime scene at some point.”


25 February 2010 (Thursday):

Memorial service is held for Mackenzie Cowell at Wenatchee Town Toyota Center. 1800 people attend. Mackenzie is remembered as "a bright, energetic girl who endured heartless teasing through much of her adolescence because of an underbite. She persevered, however, eventually becoming prom queen." Mackenzie's mother, maternal grandfather, father, father's fiance, two brothers, and boyfriend attend the memorial. Noticeably absent is Mackenzie's mother's boyfriend. Mackenzie's brother Trevor made the family's first statement to the media: "It's incredible. It meant the world to me because we all loved her. And that's what this all shows is how much everybody loves her."


01 March 2010 (Monday):

The Cowell Task Force believes that Mackenzie's phone is a key piece of evidence and asks the public to call the tip line if it is found. The phone is a maroon LG EnV2.


03 March 2010 (Wednesday):

A local task force continues to work full-time on the Mackenzie Cowell murder case. Chelan County has four deputies and two administrative assistants assigned to the task force. Douglas County has four detectives, Wenatchee Police has three officers and East Wenatchee police has one officer assigned to the case. The FBI, U.S. Marshal’s Office and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement are assisting the Cowell Task Force.

05 March 2010 (Friday):

Local businesspeople unite and announce the creation of a new reward fund to help find Mackenzie's killer. The group, Wenatchee Valley Citizens Against Crime, has pledged $38000 to be added to the existing $7000 reward fund in the event that someone provides a tip that leads to a conviction of Mackenzie's murderer. “This case broke the camel’s back. For this one, we said, ‘Enough is enough. We want this valley to be a safe place.'"

CLICK HERE to see a map of points of interest in the Mackenzie Cowell investigation.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:16 PM
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pufnstuf, I hope you are going to re-post your timeline. Please.

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This is reference to post 787 Thread 6.
asking for RC's girlfriends initials. Here is a link.

http://www.wenatcheeworld.com/photos...0209537ec39bf0
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:18 PM
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did anyone interview the person who called in the body of MC?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:21 PM
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who reported MC missing before she was murdered?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:21 PM
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The property at CB just sold for $777,946.00. How much did the property value drop since a body was found on it? Does anyone know what Springer Development is planning on doing with the property?
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:24 PM
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(snipped down)

As for the tire mud, to get it on the sides like that, the car would have had to sink down in. I still think they tried to take it somewhere else before dumping it up PC as a last resort.

But, hey, by the time I catch up with the end of this thread I could be proven wrong!
Maybe the "somewhere else" they came from was from the murder scene located up a dirt/muddy road, not just looking for another place to dump the car. It would make sense, because you want the murder scene in an out of the way location. I'm leaning towards a house under construction farther up the Squilchuck valley.

Still the mud could have came from just beyond where the car was dumped up Pitcher Canyon but they decided against driving directly in front of the picture window on the next house up. Or the car wash was just a bogus rumor to begin with???

Anyone know of property recently purchased or building permits located up towards Mission Ridge that our prime players might have on file?

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Old 03-10-2010, 11:25 PM
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The property at CB just sold for $777,946.00. How much did the property value drop since a body was found on it? Does anyone know what Springer Development is planning on doing with the property?
who owned the house? if it's WC then maybe she is gonna reward someone soon.
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pufnstuf, I hope you are going to re-post your timeline. Please.

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For some reason, the format screwed up the first time, so I deleted and reposted. Thanks, Liz.
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The property at CB just sold for $777,946.00. How much did the property value drop since a body was found on it? Does anyone know what Springer Development is planning on doing with the property?
The most recent recorded sale was in November 2009. It was recently listed for sale up until about 1 or 2 days following the discovery of MC.

ETA: The principal place of business for Springer Development is in Walla Walla, and the registered agent is located in Seattle.

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The property at CB just sold for $777,946.00. How much did the property value drop since a body was found on it? Does anyone know what Springer Development is planning on doing with the property?
Springer DEVELOPMENT?

My guess is that they may take the mobile home out and put condos there. It's not that far from the Crescent Bar beach.

Last night, I watched some videos of Crescent Bar beach on Memorial Day. That place is hopping on holidays. Looks like a good time.
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who owned the house? if it's WC then maybe she is gonna reward someone soon.
It was not WC. Some guy on the coast.
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The property summary states that the home was sold to Springer Development in November 2009. Maybe they decided to put it back on the market.
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About the missing phone:

Either it's in the river, or it is smashed to pieces. I don't think it will be found whole, and in working condition. (I'm just guessing...)
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who reported MC missing before she was murdered?
I think RC did....after the sheriff called to tell him they found his car at PC.
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Back in the day, we were quite strict about not posting rumors.
Good thing they've changed that policy. In this case we wouldn't have a darn thing to chat about without the rumors.
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About the missing phone:

Either it's in the river, or it is smashed to pieces. I don't think it will be found whole, and in working condition. (I'm just guessing...)
Funny thing is, I doubt it contains any evidence which police don't already have.
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Maybe the "somewhere else" they came from was from the murder scene located up a dirt/muddy road, not just looking for another place to dump the car. It would make sense, because you want the murder scene in an out of the way location. I'm leaning towards a house under construction farther up the Squilchuck valley.

Still the mud could have came from just beyond where the car was dumped up Pitcher Canyon but they decided against driving directly in front of the picture window on the next house up. Or the car wash was just a bogus rumor to begin with???

Anyway know of property recently purchased or building permits located up towards Mission Ridge that our prime players might have on file?
The two places on that end of town that I can think of as having construction are:

Fact#1- Partway between the edge of town and the entrance to Pitcher Canyon Road, there is quite a bit of new construction occuring in two seperate developments that sit between Squilchuck Rd and Methow St.

Theory/conjecture Pretty visable in there though- I just dont see this area being somewhere someone would commit a crime and not be seen.

Fact#2- Whispering Ridge- a development after Squilchuck Road splits and up the turn and hill heading toward Malaga from the Gravel Pit. There are a ton of undeveloped lots up there, as well as a mix of ongoing construction and completed homes. This is where I was today when I almost got stuck.

Theory/Conjecture When I saw where someone else had been there previously, spun fairly deep when turning, I got a bit of a chill thinking about the possibility of MCs car being up there, possibly doing the same thing.

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Good thing they've changed that policy. In this case we wouldn't have a darn thing to chat about without the rumors.
I think it was Colonel Mustard with the candlestick!
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About the missing phone:

Either it's in the river, or it is smashed to pieces. I don't think it will be found whole, and in working condition. (I'm just guessing...)
I agree - if the perp is cleaver enough to have this many people stumped (partially because of tight lipped LE), then I just don't see anyone hanging on to it. Too much of a liability.

As for child support, it is ordered until the child reaches the age of 18 OR graduates, whichever happens last. The parents must petition the court for postsecondary support prior to the child's 18th birthday, or graduation, whichever happens last. If they don't petition, it's barred and neither parent is required to help pay for postsecondary support. So in MC's case, child support would have stopped in June when she graduated.
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who reported MC missing before she was murdered?
At this point, we can't be certain if Mackenzie was reported missing prior to being murdered. KWIM?
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