GBC Trial General Discussion Thread #4

[Inspector]

Sorry to interrupt discussions. About halfway, having issues, but they are fixable I think. Goodnight

Stunning picture! What a beautiful talent you have :loveyou:

 

[Inspector]

Hi KG1... It's the same person. at bare minimum it has to be a conflict of interest.

Nothing but the finest for the defence. This confirms my psychiatrist hopping hunch. Great find SS!

 

[Greg]

Ms Baden-Walton said she travelled to Brisbane on the Sunday before her disappearance and spent a “lovely afternoon” together.

 

[LauraMars]

This is just so confusing in my mind (ha) because I thought his phone was in Kellie Thompson's hand.

Agree Sosocurious, the phone thing is very confusing and still does my head in! So many 'Whys'??? Why if the phone showed up on the ap for Kellie Thompson, did the police (and Gerard) not go straight out the back to the Boscombe Rd property and try ringing and ringing it and keep trying the ap? I know they did a full search that evening, but anything could have happened to that phone over that afternoon, if indeed it had been out the back initially.

I do wonder if that was some error with the ap or maybe it was Gerard's phone showing up? It's very close to home if it was there, so you'd think he would have taken more pains to dispose of it somewhere more obscure or much further away.

He stated in court that the ap would play up at times and that they found that turning it on and off would often fix the problem. Did he do this I wonder, keep trying it? I doubt it!

Also wonder if he kept calling Allison later that day or over ensuing days. It certainly appears that he did not drive around looking for her later that day or the following days, as any normal worried sick partner would. Even if the police told him not to search, which they have denied, really, you still would wouldn't you? You would not stop searching, and you would rally up everyone you could possibly think of to help search!

 

[Inspector]

I'm convinced that Gerard's dastardly regard for Allison, made him massively overlook how much public interest would result from her disappearance. Not to take any credit away from the amazing QPS first on the scene - they were fantastic.

The scratches, well that was always going to be hard to explain, but he owns a real estate business and is active in the community (so surely he could explain those away)*. He missed the blood in the car. I'm sure he had no idea it was there, as there was no attempt to clean it up.

Lots of little messy details to trip him up. I think he thought he could get away with it because of his high regard for himself and negligible regard for his wife. Oh and a real estate agent active in that area would be a complete numpty not to know Kholo creek bridge. Impossibly stupid thing to say. To clarify, I used to live in the western suburbs and have driven that road many times. My heart always skipped a beat driving over that bridge.

Also the fallen leaves. That is one of my big convincing pieces of evidence, coupled with blood in the boot of the car.

*NB: too clear up some confusion in a later post, I'm being sarcastic when I refer to G explaining things away! In no way do I mean this as a serious explanation or justification.

 

[MadDoc]

He stated in court that the ap would play up at times and that they found that turning it on and off would often fix the problem. Did he do this I wonder, keep trying it? I doubt it!

That would be a way of explaining it away if evidence had been found of the app being turned off at a certain time and then turned on again. Sounds like a convenient statement to slip in.

 

[Maigret]

Agree Sosocurious, the phone thing is very confusing and still does my head in! So many 'Whys'??? Why if the phone showed up on the ap for Kellie Thompson, did the police (and Gerard) not go straight out the back to the Boscombe Rd property and try ringing and ringing it and keep trying the ap? I know they did a full search that evening, but anything could have happened to that phone over that afternoon, if indeed it had been out the back initially.



I do wonder if that was some error with the ap or maybe it was Gerard's phone showing up? It's very close to home if it was there, so you'd think he would have taken more pains to dispose of it somewhere more obscure or much further away.



He stated in court that the ap would play up at times and that they found that turning it on and off would often fix the problem. Did he do this I wonder, keep trying it? I doubt it!



Also wonder if he kept calling Allison later that day or over ensuing days. It certainly appears that he did not drive around looking for her later that day or the following days, as any normal worried sick partner would. Even if the police told him not to search, which they have denied, really, you still would wouldn't you? You would not stop searching, and you would rally up everyone you could possibly think of to help search!

It's the same as when you misplace something you don't give up looking for it for quite some time if it was your husband/wife or child you would be consumed by looking for them (unless you knew exactly where they were)

 

[SwiftSleuth]

Another little tidbit (possibly of interest).

Ashton Ward (man who did time-lapse video) also works for a company called alibi projects. It's just an ad agency (specialising in property advertising) but a curious and funny company name nonetheless.

http://alibiprojects.com.au/team/ashton-ward/

 

[MadDoc]

Another little tidbit (possibly of interest).

Ashton Ward (man who did time-lapse video) also works for a company called alibi projects. It's just an ad agency (specialising in property advertising) but a curious and funny company name nonetheless.

http://alibiprojects.com.au/team/ashton-ward/

GBC probably knows him through the real estate industry - but wasn't there some mention a while back, about GBC being involved in a company or something to do with surveillance?

The thought popped back into my head when Mrs Dickie mentioned the baby monitor.

 

[Greg]

Ms Baden-Walton said she travelled to Brisbane on the Sunday before her disappearance and spent a “lovely afternoon” together.

She traveled to Brisbane on the Sunday before the disappearance, which was the end of school holidays in Qld......why would you go away when School Holidays have finished????

Of all the times to make the 2 day drive down from Tville to Bris.... lucky she was on hand to drive around looking and to help Gerard out with getting on with normal duties, as that was the most important thing on the agenda...

 

[SwiftSleuth]

GBC probably knows him through the real estate industry - but wasn't there some mention a while back, about GBC being involved in a company or something to do with surveillance?

The thought popped back into my head when Mrs Dickie mentioned the baby monitor.

I think you're right MadDoc re: surveillance company.

Just thought it would've been an interesting question put to Mr Ward 'Do you also work for a company called Alibi Projects?'. Nothing in it but would possibly help to discredit him.

 

[Maigret]

She traveled to Brisbane on the Sunday before the disappearance, which was the end of school holidays in Qld......why would you go away when School Holidays have finished????



Of all the times to make the 2 day drive down from Tville to Bris.... lucky she was on hand to drive around looking and to help Gerard out with getting on with normal duties, as that was the most important thing on the agenda...

Her children are home schooled and I think they flew down

 

[MRSA]

The scratches, well that was always going to be hard to explain, but he owns a real estate business and is active in the community (so surely he could explain those away).

I don't follow. What relevance does owning a real estate business and being active in the community have to one's capacity to explain fingernail scratches to one's face on the day one's wife is reported missing?

 

[Mumma Bear]

Can someone explain to me the significance of what is the suspicion with his:

1. taking the Captiva
2. The Captiva being reverse parked in the carport

I am assuming it is because the Prado was MORE accessible, for 1., but am I missing something?

but what about point 2.?

The initial suspicion looks to be it just seemed strange GBC would take the less accessible car, and that it was backed it. Further suspicion would be:
• the captiva was taken to hide his tracks the night before - i.e. he could have parked it on the edge of the property during the night to avoid waking the children - he then needed to reposition it back to normal first thing.
• why would he take his wife's car if he was expecting her to turn up - urgently needing her car to drive to Taringa? He knew Allison refused to use his car. It shows he was not thinking as if Allison was really missing.

I do not recall any questioning under oath to OBW or NBC about where the captiva was when they arrived that morning - anyone?

 

[catswhiskers]

I wonder if GBC had used the old "app must be malfunctioning" excuse with Allison often - he must have turned it off regularly to cover his tracks. Those emails back and forth promising to leave and causing him so much agony didn't happen in isolation - am sure there would be "trysts" that would need to be hidden from the app.

 

[Greg]

Her children are home schooled and I think they flew down

but she had her car there.....?

 

[Maigret]

but she had her car there.....?

I'm pretty sure someone said it was a car she borrowed from her parents ( maybe her mum)

 

[ollijack]

She traveled to Brisbane on the Sunday before the disappearance, which was the end of school holidays in Qld......why would you go away when School Holidays have finished????

Of all the times to make the 2 day drive down from Tville to Bris.... lucky she was on hand to drive around looking and to help Gerard out with getting on with normal duties, as that was the most important thing on the agenda...

I wonder if her kids go to a Christian school, church school? Different school holiday dates maybe?
Did she drive or fly down ?:scared:


SNAP Maigret lol

 

[Amee]

Mr Baden-Clay said he drove home in his daughter Olivia Walton’s car but became unclear when it came to the chronology on whether he had walked to the Brookfield State School to pick it up

http://m.news.com.au/QLD/fi11732343.htm

 

[Amee]

The initial suspicion looks to be it just seemed strange GBC would take the less accessible car, and that it was backed it. Further suspicion would be:
• the captiva was taken to hide his tracks the night before - i.e. he could have parked it on the edge of the property during the night to avoid waking the children - he then needed to reposition it back to normal first thing.
• why would he take his wife's car if he was expecting her to turn up - urgently needing her car to drive to Taringa? He knew Allison refused to use his car. It shows he was not thinking as if Allison was really missing.

I do not recall any questioning under oath to OBW or NBC about where the captiva was when they arrived that morning - anyone?

Mr Baden-Clay said both the cars were in the driveway when he arrived at his son’s home, the Captiva in the carport with the bonnet facing out towards the road.

“I think normally it was facing out,” he said

http://m.news.com.au/QLD/fi11732343.htm