DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #4

[Voice4theSilent]

Let's remember that the affidavit states "....received a text from W-1 on Thursday May 14, 2015 at approximately 9:00AM." (BBM)

"Approximately" could mean 9:15 or even 9:20. It isn't hard for me to believe, with the phone calls starting at 7am that morning, that the money was received and photographed at "approximately 9:00AM" if the bank opened it's doors at 9am and they were waiting there first in line when the doors opened.

 

[catdoggy21]

But in the Charging Documents, the part about going to the bank is the first version of what W1 (Driver) told the police. He later changed the story that the Other Employee gave him bundles of money from his pockets and there is no mention of the bank. Both version are in the Charging Documents, and it sounds like the first version about the bank transaction was a lie.

JMO.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/local/charging-papers-against-daron-wint/1558/

 

[Momoffourboys]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/266278174/Daron-Dylon-Wint-Charging-Documents
Is this 'scribd" what you're looking for?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/266278174

Thanks. But I can't open the scribd doc on my ipad. There is a pdf doc someone posted.

Ahhh this is it! Thanks, Catdoggy!

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...086401/charging-papers-against-daron-wint.pdf

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't believe for a second that perp was ever going to let them go, however much money was delivered.
He clearly didn't want to get caught. I mean, look at him go at the video. He has his hoodie on, you can't see his face, and he is running. He burned the house, he burned the car, and if he liked pizza crust, police still might not know who to look for.

True. But he could've let on to the victims that they had a chance to live if they delivered more money by noon.

 

[CARIIS]

I think the flurry of calls after the drop is because the $40K was the first installment and SS was working on getting more. I think Wint gave him a noon deadline and SS was doing what he could to gather more cash. Noon came, but no more cash came. Wint then terminated the crime by killing everyone and setting the boy's room on fire (and I'm assuming he thought the fire would consume the house).

Wint didn't realize that it's hard to get a huge amount of cash collected. The $40k, I think, came from stashes of cash that SS and his associates (his accountant, perhaps his father, etc.) had access to by the morning. It's possible the $40K didn't come from the bank (how could it if Driver took a picture of it at 9am, at the same moment banks open?)

After that amount was gathered, I think they went to work to get more, this time from the bank, working whatever angles they could. However, they weren't able to get the more money in time.

This is just my SPECULATION and may turn out to be way wrong. But I think it fits with why SS was still contacting people at noon and why the fire started soon afterwards.

SPECULATION, JMO, THINKING ALOUD.

Hi In!

Our banks open at 8. I grew up in affluence, and I too, have a sibling with repulisve wealth! They live in a completly different oribt. I have no "ponderings" about how he got in. They are in gated communities etc, the security systems are typically only on when the homes are empty, especially during the day - they dont keep em on. Their beliefs systems, and realities are they are much more protected from crime, just by virtue of wealth - private security, etc etc

I totally bet we will find out doors open, unlocked and security system not on in daylight!

 

[FerrariRose]

It's possible the $40K didn't come from the bank (how could it if Driver took a picture of it at 9am, at the same moment banks open?)

After that amount was gathered, I think they went to work to get more, this time from the bank, working whatever angles they could. However, they weren't able to get the more money in time.

According to the affidavit, the $40,000 came from the bank. The source of the cash was confirmed by the other employee and the bank manager.

The other employee that provided the package to W-l was interviewed and stated the money IT withdrew from Bank of America was wrapped in money wrappers from the bank and the money was seperated in four bundles that totaled (540,000.00) forty thousnnd dollars.

In the affidavit, the photo time stamp is "approximately 9:00AM". Maybe the police are intentionally vague about the time the money was picked up?

 

[franker]

I don't think the zillow information is necessarily up to date. The most important thing about that info I found is, IMO, the building permit/s taken out in 2013:
Date & Status Summary
03/21/2013 ISSUED

PERMIT Construction Building Permit For Addition Alteration Repair
Building permit #B1303218 was issued to begin Addition Alteration Repair work on 21 Mar 04:00. It was requested by Daniel Harrison for the purpose of KITCHEN ADDITION, RENOVATION, GARAGE ADDITION, NEW COVERED PORCH, NEW FRONT ENTRY.

Status last updated on Apartable at 2014-08-03 12:59:45

Maybe, Apartable has a listing if there is an in-law unit. Anyhow, most important is it occurs to me that they might have expanded the garage to accommodate 3 or 4 cars. And, I think that having the lawyer listed as owner/trustee is one of those things that people with gobs of money do, although I don't know why. If I had as much money as this family has, I am sure I would be advised to do it too.

Anyhow, none of it really matters. I like this family and I am feeling very very badly for the surviving daughters. I am hoping that they have someone looking out for their best interests.

IMO, any Zillow Property Value Estimate should be taken with a huge grain of Trulia.

 

[Inthedetails]

Let's remember that the affidavit states "....received a text from W-1 on Thursday May 14, 2015 at approximately 9:00AM." (BBM)

"Approximately" could mean 9:15 or even 9:20. It isn't hard for me to believe, with the phone call starting at 7am that morning, that the money was received and photographed at "approximately 9:00AM" if the bank opened it's doors at 9am and they were waiting there first in line when the doors opened.

Good point.

But what's the bit about the Other Employee handing bundles of money from his pockets. That's weird behavior to happen in a bank.

 

[Cricket99]

Driver is under a lot of stress (we know he called someone crying). And police are questioning him, possibly suspecting him. That could explain why he was inconsistent.

I agree, I think he will clear all this up eventually (when he is allowed to talk without angering anyone).

 

[serena]

Does Anyone know if the Porsche was a 2 seater or 4 seater? If this were the only way for the murderers to leave, how many people it seats may be significant.

 

[jjenny]

According to the affidavit, the $40,000 came from the bank. The source of the cash was confirmed by the other employee and the bank manager.



In the affidavit, the photo time stamp is "approximately 9:00AM". Maybe the police are intentionally vague about the time the money was picked up?

Yes, I noticed the same thing. Approximately 9:00AM. They have the phone, they would know the exact time of the message, they just didn't want to put that into affidavit.

 

[jjenny]

Does Anyone know if the Porsche was a 2 seater or 4 seater? If this were the only way for the murderers to leave, how many people it seats may be significant.

Looks like a 2 seater to me from the photo. Witness only saw one person in the car.

 

[CARIIS]

My car looks more like the one on the right.

That is one cool looking machine!! Mine looks just like it but in yellow !!!

 

[i.b.nora]

Does anyone have the link to the PDF version of the charging doc? TIA

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...on-dellon-dennis-charging-papers-may-2015.pdf

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documen...-darron-dellon-dennis-supplement-may-2015.pdf

 

[jjenny]

True. But he could've let on to the victims that they had a chance to live if they delivered more money by noon.

I have no doubt perp wold be lying to the victims telling them he will let them go if he got the money. Otherwise, why would victims comply?
I don't think he had any intetion of letting them go. Especially considering he used to work for AIW and possibly SS remembered him.

 

[Inthedetails]

According to the affidavit, the $40,000 came from the bank. The source of the cash was confirmed by the other employee and the bank manager.



In the affidavit, the photo time stamp is "approximately 9:00AM". Maybe the police are intentionally vague about the time the money was picked up?

THANK YOU for pointing that out. Got it now. I'll let my theory go (reluctantly...I like it!).

 

[CARIIS]

The cash was photographed at 9AM. Banks open at 9AM. Pretty tough to swing that....you must be authorized signer and sign card to be escorted to safe deposit box. A bank would never never bend this rule. They don't know what's in your box but you are informed that cash is not permitted to be stored in box. Can't see SS risking being reported for potential laundering being CEO and all....

The affluent have totally different life experiences - the head of the bank would have come in at 3 in the morning for him if he asked!

Just a different world

 

[Inthedetails]

I have no doubt perp wold be lying to the victims telling them he will let them go if he got the money. Otherwise, why would victims comply?
I don't think he had any intetion of letting them go. Especially considering he used to work for AIW and possibly SS remembered him.

Yes, I realize that. What I'm wondering is what SS was doing on the phone AFTER the $40K was dropped off. My hunch at the moment (until someone stomps on my theories with facts....so annoying!) is that Wint wanted more than the $40K and was giving SS until noon to get it.

Yes, I agree he intended to commit murder all along.

JMO.

 

[CARIIS]

No problem. Who wants a car like that? Certainly can't drive it on most city streets. Speed bumps in parking lots would wreck it.

I do I do! I will have my mechanix fix it!

 

[Momoffourboys]

Does Anyone know if the Porsche was a 2 seater or 4 seater? If this were the only way for the murderers to leave, how many people it seats may be significant.

The 2008 Carrera Turbo that is pictured is a 2 seater. It does have 2 small "buckets" behind the front seats...but I don't consider them seats. Definitely not room for a human!