CA - 14 killed in San Bernardino mass shooting, 2 Dec 2015 #4

[popsicle]

Online lender, I'm not familiar with this, but guessing the interest rates would be sky high? I wondered if their baby was delivered at the hospital or at home. If true that the Mrs. didn't speak much, and relatives never seen her face, I'm sure the mother had to have seen her, since she lived there. But being that she was ultra conservative, didn't go many places, it would surprise me if she did go to the hospital. One of the big red flags for me, she studied to be a pharmacist, and settled on a man that was average at best, and decided to be a housewife? I'm not talking down to housewives at all, but spending all day long in that tiny condo with a mother in law.

I would guess in her eyes he was better than average since they were both extremists. She didn't decide to be a housewife she decided to be a terrorist. jmo

 

[Momoffourboys]

Waiting to hear what day the loan was taken out, I wonder if it was Nov13. jmo

Just heard on Fox Radio...Nov 13

 

[faw720]

Not blaming them is a start, but we need to respect them and treat them with dignity the way we would treat any human being. We need to let go of hate, prejudice, and fear. We're better than that.

JMO

I've said this before & I'll say it again. I don't hate anyone. I have worked with many Muslims & have enjoyed being with them. I also even dated one at one time, so I'm not prejudiced toward all Muslims. I do fear the radicals & why not????? I will profile them so long as they continue their killing rampage. When Catholic priests & Baptist preachers start committing mass killings, I will profile them also & look at them with suspicion. Are they good guys or bad guys?????

 

[Foxfire]

Does this mean he was on their radar?

Possibly Elley Mae.. Seems that investigators are crickets on the details of the scanner information.. Stephen Hayes is still digging in an effort to pry this info from LAPD..

 

[Momoffourboys]

San Bernardino shooting: Attackers may have left bomb to kill police, used loan to buy weapons

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...ng-attackers-bomb-mainbar-20151208-story.html

 

[CSIDreamer]

This article
http://www.smh.com.au/world/san-ber...posit-in-couples-account-20151208-glitu8.html

says "Fox News first reported on Monday that Farook engaged in transactions involving more than $US28,000 and that the money originated with WebBank.com about November 18. It said investigators were trying to determine if the money was a loan taken out by Farook.

That looks like a clearinghouse to me. Does it look like that to anyone else?

I'm surprised if he took out a loan. Muslims don't believe in charging interest or paying interest. (Just a statement of fact).

 

[Safeguard]

I hate when we get a 'devils advocate' on here to call out every post, then someone has to respond to the DA, then the DA replies, then the responder has to respond again. It's so tiring.
Now I'm going to have to remember how to block posters, and I'm really just to lazy to do it.
All MOO only

Thank you. You make a good point. Some of the responses to the Devils Advocates do give me hope, that at least some people are seeing the Forest through the trees .
Although they,(DA's) are troll like, name calling and picking apart every little thing, it is a indication, I suspect of the larger populations denial of " Something Wicked This Way Comes. The gravity of the trouble we are in can not be underestimated Imo.

 

[Elley Mae]

Just heard on Fox Radio...Nov 13

The day of the Paris attacks.

 

[nerdgirl]

"The Los Angeles Police Department received a pair of reports about suspicious activity in recent weeks at the building at 601 S. Figueroa St. The suspects were checking out the building and somehow trying to gain access to the structure, according to various reports."


http://www.dailynews.com/general-ne...ise-may-have-been-san-bernardino-mass-shooter

 

[Foxfire]

Online lender, I'm not familiar with this, but guessing the interest rates would be sky high? I wondered if their baby was delivered at the hospital or at home. If true that the Mrs. didn't speak much, and relatives never seen her face, I'm sure the mother had to have seen her, since she lived there. But being that she was ultra conservative, didn't go many places, it would surprise me if she did go to the hospital. One of the big red flags for me, she studied to be a pharmacist, and settled on a man that was average at best, and decided to be a housewife? I'm not talking down to housewives at all, but spending all day long in that tiny condo with a mother in law.

<BBM for Focus>

Doesn't matter how high the interest rate is.. He had no intentions of paying it back.. That's how psychopaths think. Gary Ridgeway; green river serial killer had no problem picking up prostitutes, although they knew that they were being stalked by a dangerous predator. One of his most effective ruses to get the victims to lower their guard was to offer them double the going rate. Ridgeway knew he would be getting the money back in full, before the night was over..

It takes about 10 days to two weeks to get the funds from Prosper once the loan application is completed. The date that he applied would be significant because it would indicate that he knew at that time what the money was going to be used for; pre-planning.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Saudi Arabia's Uncomfortable History With Radical Islam

Snip

If ISIS is to be extirpated from the Muslim world, it will have to be done by Sunni Muslims, not by outsiders. Their mentors and sympathizers, primarily in the Gulf, will have to undertake a serious effort to uproot the ideas and beliefs that are the foundation of the Islamic State. Doing that will be especially difficult for Saudi Arabia, which spent two decades and billions of dollars to spread worldwide a version of Islam that is uncomfortably similar to that of the Islamic State.

It&#8217;s hard to argue with Richard Bulliett of Columbia University, who wrote: &#8220;King Salman faces a difficult choice. Does he do what President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and many Republican presidential hopefuls want him to do, namely, lead a Sunni alliance against the Islamic State? Or does he continue to ignore Syria, attack Shi&#8216;ites in Yemen, and allow his subjects to volunteer money and lives to the ISIS caliph&#8217;s war against Shi&#8216;ism?&#8221; He predicted that &#8220;In five years time, Saudi Arabia will either help defeat the Islamic State, or become it.&#8221;

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/12/08/saudi-arabia-isis/

 

[CARIIS]

Webslueth On A Motorcycle!

Amazing video -

He gets right up to the facility
he does cuss!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQt-VKiuBwM

put this in if link wont work want you guys to experience this -unreal - give a real ideal of what was going on.

SAN BERNARDINO CALIFORNIA MASS SHOOTING | LIVE ON LOCATION

Could not help but chuckle - i suppose then was the ideal time to speed!

 

[leah]

<BBM for Focus>

Doesn't matter how high the interest rate is.. He had no intentions of paying it back.. That's how psychopaths think. Gary Ridgeway; green river serial killer had no problem picking up prostitutes, although they knew that they were being stalked by a dangerous predator. One of his most effective ruses to get the victims to lower their guard was to offer them double the going rate. Ridgeway knew he would be getting the money back in full, before the night was over..

It takes about 10 days to two weeks to get the funds from Prosper once the loan application is completed. The date that he applied would be significant because it would indicate that he knew at that time what the money was going to be used for; pre-planning.

When I heard this initially, I thought his mother was the one giving them the money, just surprised me it was done online, and I never heard of Prosper before.

 

[kimlynn]

Survivor who prayed at same Mosque as shooters calls attack Anti Islamic

http://abcnews.go.com/US/san-bernardino-survivor-calls-shooting-anti-islamic/story?id=35645123


The "only way we can fight this crime [is] if we are united, if we are together," Salihin Kondoker said. "I shall go to visit your church, temple, synagogue and pray with you and mourn with you about our tragedy. And should come to my mosque and pray with me."

 

[Gigi-G]

The argument doesn't stand for religion. Religion itself has been a bone of contention since times began.
It's in the 'interpretation'.
What people who groom individuals for ISIS do. Is to twist the Islam values. To the point that it will read like the Qur'an. Sound like the Qur'an.
Pressing hard on the facts the the West are infidels the kaffurs no believers. Who have no morals in their souls.
They'd use harsh facts. There's enough footage around to show bombings in Iraq/Syria etc etc. How The West came into their land and slain there loved ones and family.
Even if the ones being groomed live amongst us. They have relatives there still.

The Radicalists like Anjem Choudry. Will sell us off as a brutal evil self propelled killing machine. Who don't give a thought for anyone but themselves. Hard sell. Then to be told the only way for Muslims to be free of the west's control. Is to join the warriors of Allah (jihadists)... The rest happened on that day in SB......
strictly all my own opinion. Trying to profile Anjem Choudry.

Repetitive affermation. = keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. Repetitively. And that is it. Brain is washed of normal cognitive though processes.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Street view of 601 s. Figueroa St.

https://www.google.com/maps/place//...1e1!3m2!1sZEoNlwR6YjvI_4pUHK9H_g!2e0?hl=en-us

 

[Gigi-G]

The argument doesn't stand for religion. Religion itself has been a bone of contention since times began.
It's in the 'interpretation'.
What people who groom individuals for ISIS do. Is to twist the Islam values. To the point that it will read like the Qur'an. Sound like the Qur'an.
Pressing hard on the facts the the West are infidels the kaffurs no believers. Who have no morals in their souls.
They'd use harsh facts. There's enough footage around to show bombings in Iraq/Syria etc etc. How The West came into their land and slain there loved ones and family.
Even if the ones being groomed live amongst us. They have relatives there still.

The Radicalists like Anjem Choudry. Will sell us off as a brutal evil self propelled killing machine. Who don't give a thought for anyone but themselves. Hard sell. Then to be told the only way for Muslims to be free of the west's control. Is to join the warriors of Allah (jihadists)... The rest happened on that day in SB......
strictly all my own opinion. Trying to profile Anjem Choudry.

Repetitive affermation. = keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. Repetitively. And that is it. Brain is washed of normal cognitive though processes.

Thought processes**

 

[Momoffourboys]

More about the building Farook tried to access.

http://www.southlandarchitecture.com/Building/332/Figueroa-at-Wilshire.php

This building makes effective use of color in order to put a distinctive mark on Los Angeles' alternately blue and brown sky. Its cladding is of coral-colored granite, accented with bronze panels and somehow complimented by green-glazed windows. Toward the top of its 53 stories the skyscraper becomes blunt like the nose of a bullet faceted in glass. The building is superlative in the sense that it has not just one 75-foot atrium, but two -- providing one of the few occasions in the English language to use the word "atria." Its only real drawback is the fact that Saint Paul's Episcopal Cathedral gave its life for this temple of moneychangers.

 

[ninij9]

Wondering if he did that because he feared they would be after him next? I wouldn't think most people would think of this as a tactic to avoid police.

I wondered the same, I have mentioned on other threads that my BIL has been incarcerated 19 years for stabbing his GF to death. When he realized the Police were coming he checked himself into the hospital for a psych evaluation on the advice of the family lawyer. Hmmmm. It accomplished 2 things. 1. It made access to him more complicated and gave the perp and lawyer more time. 2. It also saved my BIL from a possible violent confrontation with cops. My BIL is where he belongs. In my opinion, checking into hospital is not unheard of.

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[Gigi-G]

It's gotta be about finding HOW they are being RADICALIZED. WHO is recruiting them. And WHERE.
I'm thinking alot is done online. Alot in Mosques.... Maybe a rogue Muslim. Uses the Mosque as a way in to target individuals. But the Feds.CSI.LE, are gonna have to get busy. Cuz there's a big trail to find.
Maybe as BO stated or who ever it was. About starting up an ISIS unit. A section of LE and relevant departments specialising in searching out and acting on Perps who take action on USA soil. Any act against the country you reside in imo should be classed as Treason. No ifs or buts.
Jmo.