Prosecutor Juan Martinez releases new book, February 2016 - #2

[Wagara]

Marking my spot.

 

[RickshawFan]

The link to this part of cross was posted in the other thread a bit ago, I guess? Thought it was here.

In any case, Day 25, 1 of 3 by David Lohr, JM on cross about June 4 sequence, at 22:03:

She admits that they did NOT make a video that day.


In his book though JM says they did. Eh??? She said no, JM!!!

It was at the very end of the last thread, part 2 of day 25. I sure didn't want to accidentally reproduce one more time, the mien of St. Jodith all in nunly black with that wimple of hair, pale demeanor of the cloistered, lips that don't part much as if in prayer and contemplation, tremulous voice....

 

[Hope4More]

If Travis didn't go to OKC convention in March, then how was there a pic taken in front of LDS Temple?




Jodi and Travis Travel we know this from pictures posted on myspace

1.March Oklahoma City, OK Pictures in front of LDS temple

2.March Amarillo, TX Travis with Statue

March Ryan Burns met Arias at a PrePaid Legal convention in Oklahoma in mid-March (PPL Conv are always in March) with Blonde hair.

A few weeks after that initial meeting, Burns and Arias were chatting on the phone three to five times a week. (LDS Conference is always in April)

? Travis did go to OKC in March 2008. Some details:

1. He spoke to friends about wanting to take Mimi along for the roadtrip, as part of a group of folks travelling together.


2. That plan didn't happen for whatever reason, maybe because TA thought twice about it. OKC is PPL and flashy parties and everyone talking money. Mimi is Mormon aristocracy.

3. The killer went with Travis. She had been anticipating this roadtrip for months, planning for it, texting Travis about it. She and Travis on the road again, just the two of them, checking off things on the list.

4. The trip likely became much more meaningful to her as it approached because she (and Travis) knew by the end of February she'd be leaving Mesa within a month.

5. The "big" special singular road trip there and back was one of those killer's style fantasies. Yes, they stopped at a few places on the way and on the way back, but iirc, those stops added on a few days total to a trip that for Travis was centered on convention.

For Travis, stopping along the way was multi-tasking, living to the fullest, and as his desire to travel in a group with Mimi along indicated, had nothing whatsoever to do about wanting to spend special time with the .

6. Once they arrived, Travis largely avoided JA for the entire convention. He didn't take her (or anyone) to the executive director's dinner, from the killer's "understanding," because Chris and Sky would give TA "crap."

When he texted her it was to largely to find out where she was. He needed to know that because he was at various times trying to hook up with CL (who was sharing a room with the killer), trying to make his way to a gathering in Chris and Sky's room (the killer was SO not invited), and in general.....trying to not be anyplace where he might run into her. He didn't even want to give her his room number.

7. The night I'm pretty sure the met Ryan was the night TA was trying very hard to meet up with CL, who was trying with all her might as well, but who couldn't dislodge the killer who had attached herself to CL with crazy glue.

JA dragged CL to the party ( IMO she was snooping CL's phone during their shared room stay) keeping CL away from Travis AND giving herself a shot at lining up a replacement Travis.

What a gal.


BTW....the 1st day upon return from OKC is when the diamond ring and journal went missing, and when TA found his roommie's camera in his BMW.

 

[Steve44]

It was at the very end of the last thread, part 2 of day 25. I sure didn't want to accidentally reproduce one more time, the mien of St. Jodith all in nunly black with that wimple of hair, pale demeanor of the cloistered, lips that don't part much as if in prayer and contemplation, tremulous voice....

...an earthly creature, tired of sin, solemnly fading towards heaven...

 

[RickshawFan]

It was at the very end of the last thread, part 2 of day 25. I sure didn't want to accidentally reproduce one more time, the mien of St. Jodith all in nunly black with that wimple of hair, pale demeanor of the cloistered, lips that don't part much as if in prayer and contemplation, tremulous voice....

I think I maybe misunderstood what you were saying, H4M, so my response regarding the thread and the video has no relevance? However, I do like the part about St. Jodith cribbing from a Hollywood nun. She can't do anything without copying someone else.

 

[TrialWatcher]

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BTW....the 1st day upon return from OKC is when the diamond ring and journal went missing, and when TA found his roommie's camera in his BMW.

The stealing of his journal is one reason I suspect she started the thought or planning process of murdering Travis before April. It's pure speculation I believe that she knew that even getting rid of Lisa wasn't going to make Travis consider her as wife material. Stealing his journal would allow her to cross check dates to get lies (although that didn't go well). Reading about his love of Lisa would also have burned the fire of murdeous rage brighter.

 

[Steve44]

Great work on pulling strands together, Hope4More and WingDing. I'm grateful for you sharing.

Regarding when Arias first thought of killing Travis, I've often thought it was as early as when he was dating Lisa. Maybe even before. The rage exhibited - the sheer frustration of knowing that she couldn't get what she wanted. The furnace of hatred was lit and stoked with each new perception of Arias being wronged. Cancun was a powder keg event - a source of further humiliation and risk of exposure for Arias.

I think she could have been seriously considering it as early as April 5, when she was forced to leave Mesa, which would have been extremely humiliating for her.

I'm sure when she moved to Mesa, she had no plans to ever leave. She wanted to assimilate into the community as Travis' soul-mate and the best thing that ever happened to him. But really, the seeds of her behavior were present from day one. Travis was never more than an object to her, a means to an end. As her relationship with Travis devolved from claimed soul-mate to annoying psycho-stalker-ex due to the dichotomous nature of their characters, Travis, and the knowledge he had gained about her true character, became more and more of a threat to her, and since he was never more than an object to her, ending his life in order to save her reputation became an operative dynamic of her innate logic.

 

[Hope4More]

http://www.nickvanderleek.com/2015/04/12-pages-from-travis-alexanders-journal.html

According to his journal the April stuff with JA was the same time frame as he had just found out he'd qualified for Cancun. The 17th he wrote he needed to find out when he had to make his decision for it(I'm guessing he meant who to ask) and then he was busy seeing Mimi(bookclub and raffia basket) and saying how he was tired of trying to figure girls out.

His journal entries from the NA55 time period seems he's questioning the authenticity of her(intrigued but it seemed too good to be true, but better to trust too much, then not a word about it) and then just after it Mimi suddenly just wants to be just friends. Sounds to me like TA had been set up to get rid of Mimi, just like the email and tire slashings with Lisa.

Problem is, if NA55 was JA then he spent over 24 hours sexting with her, asking if she knew what PPL was, then she came over to his house in Mesa on May 13 and they had sex.

Just didn't happen. NA55 can't be the killer. To believe she set up TA, not the other way around, is to believe she hired a hooker and paid her to text for a day and a half and then to go have sex with Travis.

I actually thought the latter at first, until the discussion over on BK's site, and finding out NA55's phone number was from Riverside, CA.

The person most familiar with the texts- and all the connected phone numbers- is the volunteer who went through all the original records- a nightmare job which took her months- to put them in a usable format. She's the person who proposed the idea, which she's pretty sure about, that Travis and an accomplice set JA up, not vice versa.

IMO the person Travis referred to as too good to be true is Mysterious Maria, aka the killer. He was right.

About Mimi changing her mind. They never really clicked in any meaningful way, despite all his talk about her being the one. She was close to 30 too and unmarried, a true oddity in that community. Travis felt very insecure around her, the most she ever committed to the idea of him was to tell him- I'm interested, but don't know how much.

Her father was on the counsel of bishops Travis "confessed" his sexual transgressions to in late January 2008. Mimi was friends with Lisa's roommate who knew all about the stalking and tire slashings. Mimi has said she thought at the time that the killer had followed she and Travis on one of those few dates.

I think Mimi said she'd consider him, asked around, and backed away.

 

[Hope4More]

The stealing of his journal is one reason I suspect she started the thought or planning process of murdering Travis before April. It's pure speculation I believe that she knew that even getting rid of Lisa wasn't going to make Travis consider her as wife material. Stealing his journal would allow her to cross check dates to get lies (although that didn't go well). Reading about his love of Lisa would also have burned the fire of murdeous rage brighter.

FWIW.


She stole that one journal mid-March, and a second journal on her way out of Mesa, which Travis didn't realize until about 2 weeks later. He texted her an incredibly wrenching plea to return them if she had taken them, that it "would be the sickest thing" she'd ever done to him.

The first journal was the one he had still been writing in, the second journal was the one just before that. He wrote in his replacement journal, repeatedly, of how awful he felt about the loss of the first journal because it covered most of the time he had spent with LISA, which was July 07- Feb 08.

The other journal she stole on the way out, plus journal one, would have covered all the time Travis had known her.

BTW, the killer left a goodbye note in the replacement journal on April 1, so would have read why he lamented the journal's loss.

 

[Steve44]

I think I maybe misunderstood what you were saying, H4M, so my response regarding the thread and the video has no relevance? However, I do like the part about St. Jodith cribbing from a Hollywood nun. She can't do anything without copying someone else.

But not a Hollywood nun! Jodi could be "Christ-like" -
whenever she wanted!

 

[Hope4More]

I had the same thought, and although I think Arias is capable of such (ill)logic, that scenario requires she project the possibility of getting caught and any subsequent scenarios. I think she would have avoided such thoughts and just use the fact that others helped her, however unknowingly, to strengthen her self-justification by internally forming a phantom support network. Remember after she came back, her mother said she was uncharacteristically cheerful and happy. This fits in as a way of gaining her mother's approval and friendship, something she was not normally interested in, as a way of incorporating her into the network of those who 'support' her, without any of them needing to know the details of that support.

Why ever Brewer, I think Matt was different. He knew there was something very wrong with her, all the more so in the fall of 2007 when he told her she should commit herself to a mental hospital or at least go on meds.

No way the would let that opportunity go by. I bet she told Matt that Travis was responsible for her losing it, and that began a deep sucking in of Matt that ended with him forging the pedo letters for her.

I'm not sure she told him on June 3 that she was on her way to kill Travis, but I have little doubt what she said in the first call she made after killing Travis, middle of the desert and night, and that call was to Matt.

 

[Hope4More]

I think I maybe misunderstood what you were saying, H4M, so my response regarding the thread and the video has no relevance? However, I do like the part about St. Jodith cribbing from a Hollywood nun. She can't do anything without copying someone else.

I loved your description. Did I lose track of a bouncing ball, though? Not sure what you mean about me thinking what you said was irrelevant?

I was responding about the trial video link someone had posted, which was exactly what I was about to go in search of for another thought, watched a section of it and ....up popped that statement by her that they did not make a sex video that day.

JM wrote in his book that they had made a video, which is.....puzzling.

 

[Steve44]

Why ever Brewer, I think Matt was different. He knew there was something very wrong with her, all the more so in the fall of 2007 when he told her she should commit herself to a mental hospital or at least go on meds.

No way the would let that opportunity go by. I bet she told Matt that Travis was responsible for her losing it, and that began a deep sucking in of Matt that ended with him forging the pedo letters for her.

I'm not sure she told him on June 3 that she was on her way to kill Travis, but I have little doubt what she said in the first call she made after killing Travis, middle of the desert and night, and that call was to Matt.

I think she had Brewer pretty much where she wanted him. She caused him a lot of grief, financially and otherwise, yet he never turned on her. As for specifically why Brewer for the gas cans, probably simply because she knew he had them, they were hers for the asking. It was only right that he should help her.

Do you think she actually told Matt she killed him? I highly doubt that. She may have said something like: "Hey Matt, guess what? I'm finally over Travis, really and truly! In fact, I'm on my way to see this great new guy right now, his name is Ryan Burns, and he's way better than Travis in every way (secret thought: he's alive, for one). I'm happy happy happy, and normal normal normal!"

 

[Hatfield]

The following is Hope4More's amazing-timeline-post written today. It was broken up in two parts because a new thread was created while she was still typing on her itty bitty lil phone.

Hope4More requested : '(Could someone please cut and paste my last post on the just closed thread to bring it over here and cut and paste this part to complete the post? Still on this stupid phone and can't to it myself. Thank you!!!!!!). '

So here it is. All in one. This is so good!! I really wish Juan Martinez could read this.
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4/5. leaves Mesa knowing Lisa is out of the picture and thinks Travis has given up on Mimi.


4/11. Mimi posts on FB a friendly warm message about/to Travis.

4/19- through May 9, the killer wages a near non-stop campaign to get Travis to visit her MySpace page, texts him to open up that forwarded email she sent, that it isn't junk, gains access to his passwords.

On April 18 she tells him twice to include a sweet note in what he's sending her.

The 2nd text:

"definitely send me a sweet note- a handwritten note."

April 19, same day as an extended series of very annoyed texts sent to her by TA about her not sending him the photos he asked her to for his webpage (photos of Naps) in fact in tbe middle of those, she texts him:

"We need to redo the shaving scene. They aren't what I was going for. I'll make you look way better the next time!"

April 22. Texts him referring indirectly to the little red riding hood scenario. He says "deal. A forest activity ."

April 22. Texts her- i never leave you comments on your MySpace page. Her to him a few minutes later- change it. (He may have texted in between and text was deleted).

4/26. Texts him a webpage to go to: paint your reality.com. Tells him- this is for you.
Blackmail vs. Murder plans, continued....


4/29. Mimi has agreed to go to Cancun, the killer starts texting and calling with Ryan Burns multiple times a day.

First week in May- the killer tells Travis to drop everything and visit her in Yreka. He says no. Burns tells her- come visit and don't play hard to get.

Through May 10. Travis goes to CA but does not visit her. On May 9, his last day in CA, the killer texts him incessantly, demanding his attention, and doesn't get it until she sends him that "accidental" text supposedly meant for Steve Carroll, telling imaginary Steve that beware, her ex-boyfriend has her passwords.

This gets T's attention and he lights into her. As she knew he would. And when TA drops it for a bit, she provokes him again with yet another accidental text. He's really pissed now. She expected he would be.

But she's not looking for just any kind of pissed. She's looking specifically to provoke him into saying something that makes it sound like he's angry because he's jealous.

That's NOT why he's angry, but she texts him responses as if it were, getting on the record-- look, Travis. I knew I shouldn't have told you all that because it always makes you so angry. Please don't try to guilt me anymore about seeing other guys. I'm trying to move on. Let's adopt a policy of don't ask don't tell.

Once she has that convenient comment on the record (one utterly untethered to reality) she has what she wants. She's made it look like Travis is hacking into HER accounts, that he gets insanely jealous and rages when she mentions other guys, and that she responds reasonably and suggests a solution to avoid making him angry in the future. She texts him minutes after that----have a good night. I'm tired of texting.

They stop texting. 10-15 minute later a chat starts on her MySpace page; his password is changed within the first minute of the chat.

The chat is about how she is a sex goddess and he'll never find anyone like her again, that he's responsible for most of their fights, and hey, let's have phone sex right NOW.

The May 10 sex tape supposedly came next.

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So far in the timeline...manufacturing evidence to send to women to destroy him? To chase them away? Or as a record to support the story she will in fact tell after she kills him, about his anger and jealousy and insatiable and kinky sexual interest in her?


Do the next few days change anything?

On May 12-13 Travis has a marathon text session with NA55, an unidentified person who he doesn't text with before or after these days. By the end of the session NA55 has supposedly gone over to his house for wild sex.

On May 14 Travis accuses her directly of hacking into his LDS link up account with multiple bogus accounts.

She denies and denies then tells him- if I wanted to go into your account all I'd have to do is use my own account-jodiA, and you would never know anyway.

Mid-May. Travis tells Regan he knows the slashed his tires, stalked him, hacked his FaceBook, and no doubt she is snooping as they speak. Tells Regan- go ahead and say hi to Jodi. Regan says- I'm going to totally do it with Travis.

Mid-May. THE KILLER CALLS DARRYL BREWER TO BORROW GAS CANS.

May 18. The killer files a police report saying her Helio was stolen from the front seat of her car.

There are no texts between TA and the killer after mid day the 17 until the 22.

How convenient? A papering over of the fact TA had already cut her off after catching her on May 13? To make her lie about the Helio being stolen more plausible? Because she was too busy brass tacks planning a murder?


May 22. Travis texts the killer- I know what you did and I'm not mad. She tells him she's in a world of trouble and some of it involves him, but it is way way bigger than that and involves a bunch of other people.

He tells her to put it in an email. Refuses to talk with her on the phone or by text.

Her May 22 journal entry, almost certainly written after she's killed him will say that this day marked the end of their relationship, and was the day they agreed not to share passwords anymore.

Their next communication will begin late May 25 into May 26, and will be the last time they are in touch at all until she badgers him with texts late night June1 through early morning June 2, until he answers. An hour later she is in her car on her way to kill him.


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Draw your own conclusions.

I think she had fantasies or even partial plans about murdering him as early as that day in April when she told him she wanted to redo the shaving photos, but that she also kept options open (Burns, chasing away GF's) until mid-May.

Since JM has said she began actively planning his murder by mid-May, here's a question. What was she trying to accomplish on May 26 by provoking him into such rage?

How was what she did and said on May 26 part of her already existing plan to kill Travis?
Last edited by Hope4More; Today at 05:49 PM.

That's real good Hope. It seems right on in many aspects.

JMO
A couple things that seem to stand out to me with JA is everything she does has a purpose and an alternate backup plan. So if something didn't quite go the way she wanted it to then she would use her backup plan.

She thought of herself as the puppet master with Travis and others being her marionettes.
I don't think she was ever sincere in being a Mormon so I think she treated all of Travis friends as one big puppet show. The main plot of the show was getting Travis into a long term commitment with her and when that began to fall apart any of the side players would do just fine. Like Ryan or guy on airplane.

She wasn't capable of sincerity to be able to make a real relationship work so no matter who it was with the end result was always the same failure of a relationship. Only this time it was different. She had graduated into a much more devilish person and with the more evil acts she did she began to enjoy it and gained confidence in thinking she was fooling everyone.
Like slicing tires, once, and then twice again.....Oh who could have done it? Isnt it amazing how sly I am in getting away with everything. I am so much smarter thane all these puppets. I just need to pull a few more strings here and some more over there.

We see her pathological escalation with the way she would report the Helio phone stolen. Going right to LE and not afraid to report phone stolen even while planning something much more devious. Same with the robbing of her grandparents gun. When they found out and reported it stolen she did not hesitate to still bring the same gun along. She was too cunning in her mind for that to even matter. She would just throw it away when done. No way LE would ever find out the same .25 caliber was used in Travis house to kill him. No, that wont matter (LOL).

She got bolder and bolder in her evilness. With Travis her attempted manipulation was to the extreme when she began faking she was talking to other people and letting him accidentally see the emails to get him jealous. He knew and suspected by then what she was doing but he played along in some of the cases to see how far she would take it before he dropped the bomb that he was onto her.

I think she was using the Helio to construct the phone sex tape. She wanted the tape to be mostly Travis egging on the whole thing and she was just an innocent player getting roped into it. She would use the tapes existence as a weapon to threaten travis that she would threaten to send it to his friends or Bishop. As well as some pictures she still had.
Her plan ebbed and flowed as her relationship with him went back and forth of being on the brink of the final end but then 1 more visit or 1 more phone call or 1 more email would happen. It was a constant see saw back and forth towards the end. She always had the hope that he would give up and take her back and they would live happily ever after. She was so obsessed she could not let him go. She had to keep trying. Her attempts got more and more bizarre with a lot of reverse physhcology since he was already mad at her so she used his madness in bizarre attempts to win him back. She was hoping it would break him and he would some day beg her to come back to him.

Finally when the writing was on the wall and she realized Travis was onto her fully and there was no recovery of her getting back into his life she made the decision that she would off him and she started to position the evidence she had to help make it look like it could not have been her.

The setup of the date with Ryan. The continued contact with PPL persons. The Journals and new journal entries that she would write in after the fact. Attending the memorial. Any sex tapes would show how he liked her and she was just an innocent girl being asked to do things for him. To her that tape was all one sided with Travis requesting everything from her and she obliging. She could not "hear" the real contents of what we heard. She could not hear how she was also the instigator on that tape. She could not hear herself egging him on to an extent as well. She blocked that out and could not see or hear that part. To her it was the perfect tape but to some of us it was so obviously snipped and cut and pasted together from different discussions to try to make him look much worse.

By then she was so delusional she thought everything she did was the perfect next chapter in this horror puppet show. Nobody knew what she was doing with his emails. Nobody knew that she had snuck into his house before. Nobody knew of their secret discussions. It was all so perfect it had to work. It would solve her obsession problem so she could turn to the next victim. It was the only way she could ever stop thinking of him. It was the only way she could close the chapter.

Unfortunately she did not see how many other people knew about her games and knew how she really was. If she had then maybe there was a chance she would have realized she would be caught. But her arrogance kept her from seeing that part. Her schemes always worked to her and so she thought this would work too. What she did not realize was all her schemes never really did work but people just would not tell her to her face that they knew of her kind and knew the things she was doing. Like the slicing of the tires. Nobody except Travis confronted her to tell her they knew she was the one who did it. So she always came away from her plans thinking she was puling everything off without anyone ever knowing. It added to her arrogance towards the end. She had a severe case of tunnel vision towards the end.

Sorry for the long post.

 

[Hope4More]

The stealing of his journal is one reason I suspect she started the thought or planning process of murdering Travis before April. It's pure speculation I believe that she knew that even getting rid of Lisa wasn't going to make Travis consider her as wife material. Stealing his journal would allow her to cross check dates to get lies (although that didn't go well). Reading about his love of Lisa would also have burned the fire of murdeous rage brighter.

What I've concluded for myself is that her thoughts and plans and feelings can't be plotted on a straight line. She lied to everyone, including herself, and couldn't keep either her own lies or truths straight.

She genuinely tried to believe in the Law of Attraction garbage, I think, because it was all about how to get what you want. She wanted to own Travis and for a time seemed to believe thinking a set way could make that happen.

She was having very dark, probably very violent thoughts in fall 2007. What bothered her wasn't the thoughts themselves, but the possibility bad thoughts would interfere with the good thoughts which would bring Travis around.

BPD factors in. She'd feel slighted or hurt or rejected and for the next few days, regular as clockwork, she'd make Travis pay for his transgressions against her. But after that she'd go right back to her supreme arrogance that Travis would be hers, IMO.

I don't think she gave up - finally and totally- on Travis as husband until the end of April. After she did so there was no back and forth- everything was about destroying Travis.

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ETA. A non-Travis related example of her back and forth and delusional thinking:

Summarized based just on what she wrote in her journal--

1st week March. Leaving Mesa. Won't be doing PPL anymore.

Mid March- psyched about PPL. Next year I'll have earned my own way to the executive director's banquet. Goals to meet by July: become executive director.

3rd week in March: I need to work harder at this...but this is my 2 year anniversary in PPL and I realize I haven't made it very far. Lesson learned. I'll work harder.

Last week in March. I'm at PPL briefing. I am so bored. (Turns page in journal and writes a list of the 45 or so things she's looking for in a husband.

Leaves Mesa, and never does PPL again except to conspire with Gus.

 

[Hope4More]

I think she had Brewer pretty much where she wanted him. She caused him a lot of grief, financially and otherwise, yet he never turned on her. As for specifically why Brewer for the gas cans, probably simply because she knew he had them, they were hers for the asking. It was only right that he should help her.

Do you think she actually told Matt she killed him? I highly doubt that. She may have said something like: "Hey Matt, guess what? I'm finally over Travis, really and truly! In fact, I'm on my way to see this great new guy right now, his name is Ryan Burns, and he's way better than Travis in every way (secret thought: he's alive, for one). I'm happy happy happy, and normal normal normal!"

I think she did tell him. And I think she told him not out of trust or friendship or need or the like, but to clinch her ownership of him.

You think she ever forgave him for Bianca? Not her style. He was stalked by her just like Bobby had been before him. He knew she was obsessed with Travis. Because nothing is ever her fault, she would have blamed Travis, and IIRC, Matt was willing to say he had seen her Travis -inflicted bruises.

The story she told about what she and Matt did on June 3 is BS. They didn't have tuna tartare and sing kareoke. She was at his house opening a Flickr account in TA's name and posting pics, and IMO, making him complicit.

 

[Hope4More]

that's real good hope. It seems right on in many aspects.

Jmo
a couple things that seem to stand out to me with ja is everything she does has a purpose and an alternate backup plan. So if something didn't quite go the way she wanted it to then she would use her backup plan.

She thought of herself as the puppet master with travis and others being her marionettes.
I don't think she was ever sincere in being a mormon so i think she treated all of travis friends as one big puppet show. The main plot of the show was getting travis into a long term commitment with her and when that began to fall apart any of the side players would do just fine. Like ryan or guy on airplane.

She wasn't capable of sincerity to be able to make a real relationship work so no matter who it was with the end result was always the same failure of a relationship. Only this time it was different. She had graduated into a much more devilish person and with the more evil acts she did she began to enjoy it and gained confidence in thinking she was fooling everyone.
Like slicing tires, once, and then twice again.....oh who could have done it? Isnt it amazing how sly i am in getting away with everything. I am so much smarter thane all these puppets. I just need to pull a few more strings here and some more over there.

We see her pathological escalation with the way she would report the helio phone stolen. Going right to le and not afraid to report phone stolen even while planning something much more devious. Same with the robbing of her grandparents gun. When they found out and reported it stolen she did not hesitate to still bring the same gun along. She was too cunning in her mind for that to even matter. She would just throw it away when done. No way le would ever find out the same .25 caliber was used in travis house to kill him. No, that wont matter (lol).

She got bolder and bolder in her evilness. With travis her attempted manipulation was to the extreme when she began faking she was talking to other people and letting him accidentally see the emails to get him jealous. He knew and suspected by then what she was doing but he played along in some of the cases to see how far she would take it before he dropped the bomb that he was onto her.

I think she was using the helio to construct the phone sex tape. She wanted the tape to be mostly travis egging on the whole thing and she was just an innocent player getting roped into it. She would use the tapes existence as a weapon to threaten travis that she would threaten to send it to his friends or bishop. As well as some pictures she still had.
Her plan ebbed and flowed as her relationship with him went back and forth of being on the brink of the final end but then 1 more visit or 1 more phone call or 1 more email would happen. It was a constant see saw back and forth towards the end. She always had the hope that he would give up and take her back and they would live happily ever after. She was so obsessed she could not let him go. She had to keep trying. Her attempts got more and more bizarre with a lot of reverse physhcology since he was already mad at her so she used his madness in bizarre attempts to win him back. She was hoping it would break him and he would some day beg her to come back to him.

Finally when the writing was on the wall and she realized travis was onto her fully and there was no recovery of her getting back into his life she made the decision that she would off him and she started to position the evidence she had to help make it look like it could not have been her.

The setup of the date with ryan. The continued contact with ppl persons. The journals and new journal entries that she would write in after the fact. Attending the memorial. Any sex tapes would show how he liked her and she was just an innocent girl being asked to do things for him. To her that tape was all one sided with travis requesting everything from her and she obliging. She could not "hear" the real contents of what we heard. She could not hear how she was also the instigator on that tape. She could not hear herself egging him on to an extent as well. She blocked that out and could not see or hear that part. To her it was the perfect tape but to some of us it was so obviously snipped and cut and pasted together from different discussions to try to make him look much worse.

By then she was so delusional she thought everything she did was the perfect next chapter in this horror puppet show. Nobody knew what she was doing with his emails. Nobody knew that she had snuck into his house before. Nobody knew of their secret discussions. It was all so perfect it had to work. It would solve her obsession problem so she could turn to the next victim. It was the only way she could ever stop thinking of him. It was the only way she could close the chapter.

Unfortunately she did not see how many other people knew about her games and knew how she really was. If she had then maybe there was a chance she would have realized she would be caught. But her arrogance kept her from seeing that part. Her schemes always worked to her and so she thought this would work too. What she did not realize was all her schemes never really did work but people just would not tell her to her face that they knew of her kind and knew the things she was doing. Like the slicing of the tires. Nobody except travis confronted her to tell her they knew she was the one who did it. So she always came away from her plans thinking she was puling everything off without anyone ever knowing. It added to her arrogance towards the end. She had a severe case of tunnel vision towards the end.

Sorry for the long post.

great post!!!!!

 

[Steve44]

I think she did tell him. And I think she told him not out of trust or friendship or need or the like, but to clinch her ownership of him.

You think she ever forgave him for Bianca? Not her style. He was stalked by her just like Bobby had been before him. He knew she was obsessed with Travis. Because nothing is ever her fault, she would have blamed Travis, and IIRC, Matt was willing to say he had seen her Travis -inflicted bruises.

The story she told about what she and Matt did on June 3 is BS. They didn't have tuna tartare and sing kareoke. She was at his house opening a Flickr account in TA's name and posting pics, and IMO, making him complicit.

I can't see her telling him she was planning a murder, or had committed one. He already considered her mentally unstable, and that would only have confirmed it, and driven him further away, and I think she would know that.

I think later on, when the truth came out that she had killed him, she sold the abuse story to him hard, and knew well how to do that with him in particular, which is how she got his cooperation with the pedo letters, but telling him, or anyone else, before she absolutely had to, would never serve her purpose.

 

[Steve44]

Leaves Mesa, and never does PPL again except to conspire with Gus.

But then, Gus is a PPL GOD.

 

[Hope4More]

But then, Gus is a PPL GOD.

Fitting company for one who even smells like a goddess, then.