Found Deceased OH - Joey LaBute, 26, Columbus, 4 March 2016 #2

RIP Joey. Does anyone know if Columbus or Ohio actually still uses coroners instead of medical examiners?


All counties in the state of Ohio have a county coroner who is an elected county official.

In order to be a county coroner in Ohio, Ohio law requires that all county coroners be a licensed physician in the state of Ohio.

The state of Ohio does not have state medical examiners and cities in Ohio do not have a city coroner or medical examiner.

Many county coroners in the rural counties of Ohio don’t have the budget for a forensic pathologist on their staff or have a specialized lab to perform extensive lab tests that the larger urban counties in Ohio have.

A lot of the rural county coroners in Ohio send their suspicious and violent deaths to the larger urban counties for autopsies and extensive lab tests.

The rural counties in Ohio also have to pay the larger urban counties for each autopsy and extensive lab tests that is performed for their rural county coroners.
 
Is your theory a group of organized killers? There is no way there would be this geographically unrestricted a group of bohemian grove-esque cloaked killers that are coordinating. NO WAY. But to each his own. I kindly agree to disagree with your theory, and I've read of the "Smiley Faced" bs for years. Never believed a word of it.
 
I understand that we are all upset about the events in this case, but gosh, people, let's please not start attacking each other.

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I am So sad to hear of this news. I did not know Joey but I had run into him on 2 occasions at Union Café in 2015 when I was visiting from out of state.
I did not know his name at that time, He was sitting each time about 10-15 feet from me with another friend or two and smiled at me, totally making my night each time!

A week after he went missing the posts on Facebook showed up in my feeds and after the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] picture I almost fell out of my chair I recognized him and recalled 8 months ago at union and regretting not going over and saying hi to him.
Since then I have been hooked watching both these threads and local news online.

My whole thought about this situation is that the guy he went on the date earlier and says “byeeee” too in text is suspect #1. I got a feeling seeing Joey 8 months ago he was a sweet guy but maybe a little bit of a flirt and could be a “player” meaning he could have “led him on and dropped him off rapidly”. I have been down this road with guys like him in my hometown. It hurts. If that is not the cause of this situation then I hope LE obtains records from grindr and scruff of everyone he has spoken to before he went missing and investigate each person contact on both scruff and grindr. I can almost bet they can find the suspect that way.

Either way it’s so sad it ended this way. If I was not 8 drive away I would love to be at the candlelight vigil tonight. RIP Joey …
 
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Here is a link to the River Killers thread for those of you that want to discuss the Smiley Face angle.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/fo...hs-of-Male-College-Students-The-River-Killers

Young men being found dead or drowned is not isolated to the American midwest. It happens in Canada, the UK, Europe (where I live, for example, there is a trend of Australian tourists who fall into the sea and drown more than locals, not because they are targeted, but because they drink a lot and are reckless) and on and on. Young men are the highest demographic of accidental death. Add drugs, alcohol, fraternity hazing, college life, bad decisions, being alone and water nearby and they will find it and fall in it. I mean, if 200 men country wide over a decade or more is alarming to you, then why is the human trafficking angle so outrageous? Nearly 300 young people were trafficked in Ohio alone in 2015, and that is just the ones we know about.
I do not think Joey was trafficked but I also do not think he is the victim of a serial killer. No, this feels like a strangulation or overdose with a dump in the river and someone he knew or just met.

"There is a high probability that he was dead prior to going in the river," Ortiz said. "We cannot determine that with 100 percent certainty."
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/03/31/Police-identify-body-in-river.html

Looking at all this on a map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zZIJXWizthYo.kgSYcmSXgUhY&usp=sharing

It seems amazing to me that his body floated more than 4 miles and landed near that boat launch - there are too many twists and turns and it is more likely he would have landed on the western bank along 71 long before making the unlikely turn up into that resovoir area.

I thought perhaps he could have gone in the Olentangy right off the Goodale St bridge, but it is awfully shallow isn't it? If it is anything like the map view, his body wouldn't have made it past Broad St. I am sure LE will be testing this forensically to piece it together. Hopefully they are still looking at CCTV.

The fact that he was gay and use gay dating apps is very relevant because that is exactly how the killer hooked up with him. I can't prove it but there is enough similar case that you can google if you take the time to learn.

Please try to be more mindful in your wording to ensure your hunches and assumptions are stated as such and not asserted as fact. There are no facts in this case that we are privy to that point to any correlation to the smileyface/river killers or that Joey was even definitively murdered. This same talk was all over Zach Marr's case from last month, as he went missing under similar circumstances. They ended up with CCTV showing him falling through a gap in a railway bridge into the river. These are only isolated examples, and I realize there is cause for at least some specialists to think there is a "fad" leading to some of these young men dying. I do appreciate your passion for the subject, and hope you contribute to the River Killers thread if you haven't already. My hope is we can steer this discussion more towards analysis of the facts we have, sleuthing leads where they may be helpful to LE, and offering emotional support to friends and family who are dealing with the loss of a loved one.
 
The fact that he was gay and use gay dating apps is very relevant because that is exactly how the killer hooked up with him. I can't prove it but there is enough similar case that you can google if you take the time to learn.


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There are other cases where the missing men were on OkCupid and other dating sites. Two that I've recently read about were on OkCupid and they had met a new girl and were planning on meeting up at a bar for a first date.

Many of these missing men were either communicating with someone online or they were on a phone call when they went missing. Whoever they were last communicating with on the dating site/app is the key, IMO.
 
I think its valid . Not in Joeys case. I think SMiley Face killers is just a joke somone is doing,but real . Let me expain how I get to my notions. Smily Face do have losts in common with one anoterh in terms of victim selection (male).

It is well documented that truckers are ideal serial killers becasue here today gone tomm. SO I think the murders claimed to be SMily are a copy cat of this perp (as it relates to name Smiley)

This guy was called "Happy Face Killer) woman primarily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson#.22The_Happy_Face_Killer.22
He signed each letter with a smiley face.[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP] This led Phil Stanford, the journalist working the story for The Oregonian, to dub Jesperson "The Happy Face Killer".[SUP][8] perp


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson#.22The_Happy_Face_Killer.22

But when going back to one named Smiley face come up at lot when it is men in water. Drunk dude walking hey wanna ride, gets in,possibly repressed homsexuality (jealous decent look drunk easy pray , place to hurt then in back of cab, dump No foul play , semen is not detected in bodies that are underwater for weeks.

Blood alcohol levels however would come bak elevevated. So accidental drowing due to intoxication.

But if we look at SMiley Face map of victims clealy there are near major interstates, trucker?



cat (except gender fe
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male) of this creep

When er go back to trucker serial killers we end up here:

10 Serial-Killing Long-Haul Truckers


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I have read much of the "sfk" stuff as well and as do not believe that the majority of these drowning are the result of a group of bohemian grove-esque cloaked killers, just love that description. I do think certain clusters of disappearances may be linked to one or more like minded groups. I am sure that many people know about the sfk theory and have used that as cover for their crimes. I think a lot of guys just get drunk and make bad decisions in the great outdoors. I can not dismiss that there may be terrorism involved. Take out our young strong upward moving young men one at a time symbolically seems a possibility. There is also domestic violence and I think dear Joey may have been a victim of that. JMO
 
I'm not sure if this is relevant but it's something I found strange and even more strange after they reported where he was found.

I know everyone got different words that popped up in their auto correct when typing "Jnhstioj" into their phones.... Mine popped up "Kingston" which is a street not too far from where he was found. There is a club right by there "Club 104". It's a long shot but of all the words my phone would autocorrect that to happens to be a street right in the mix of all the relevant locations in this case.
 
I don't see why people are getting so upset and hostile toward other posters who happen to disagree with their theories of what happened. I have been on this site long enough to recall many instances when we (amateur armchair websleuths) did NOT have all the information that LE has ,and we all jumped to crazy conclusions and spun complicated theories that were totally wrong. We are all guessing about many things-people are on this site because they care and getting sarcastic and mean to others who don't share your ideas is not productive.
 
I'm not sure if this is relevant but it's something I found strange and even more strange after they reported where he was found.

I know everyone got different words that popped up in their auto correct when typing "Jnhstioj" into their phones.... Mine popped up "Kingston" which is a street not too far from where he was found. There is a club right by there "Club 104". It's a long shot but of all the words my phone would autocorrect that to happens to be a street right in the mix of all the relevant locations in this case.

Welcome MelSto!

If you don't mind me asking, what type of phone do you use?
 
If he drukenly or hastily fat thumbed the first three letters it could be "n" which if you type nstioj in google you get "nation". (original jnhstioj) Joey's body was found about two miles down the river from "nationwide". That was the first thing I noticed anyway. Lower Scioto Greenway park is right by nationwide... https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39....@39.9526692,-83.0086961,15z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2

Anyone have an thoughts?
 
I do not think his plans were to intentionally leave with someone. I believe, if that was the case, he would have TOLD his cousin that he was leaving. I am pretty sure that most people would agree with me here- if you are out with a friend and you decide to leave a crowded bar, you would TELL the person that you are with where you are going. I think it would be out of character for MOST people not to do so. Of course, intoxication is a factor- I do have one friend that leaves the bar without saying anything .
As I have speculated ALL along- I believe that Joey was conversing with SOMEONE that night, whether that be through social media or texts- I think that this person was in the area and let Joey know that he was at the bar or outside the bar. I think Joey left to meet this person, not thinking that he would not return back to his cousin within a few minutes. It wasn't intentional for him to leave without telling anyone. He didn't accidentally drown- he didn't drown at all. He was killed and disposed of in the Scioto.
I keep thinking that this person was in a car, parked in the alley right next to the Union- I believe this person told Joey to hop in the car and "help" him park (seeing as though it was densely populated with tourists that night- not to mention, you can't easily park in the Short North on any given weekend)- this person is probably not familiar with the Short North- this could explain the "I'm driving" text- he was driving, but he was in a car with someone.
I don't believe he left that bar on his own accord and started walking towards his car- whatever happened, happened either INSIDE that bar or right outside the bar.

I'm thinking along these lines also right now. I need to fix the timeline for myself wrt jibberish text, phone call from aunt, time J left the table, time of prior texts etc. Once I get that all fixed in my head I'll be able to lay out my thoughts on what might have happened.

So sad for Joey.
 
Sad to hear that Joey has been found.

I don't believe in the Smiley Face Killer theory at all, but in this particular case it does sound like there could be more to it than the usual "drunk man drowns" we've seen far too many times, so I'll keep checking in to see how the investigation develops.
 
I have an Android phone and tablet. I fiddled with the jibberish text to see what autocorrect would do. I got Johnson, Johnston, and Kingston as suggested words.
 
During the 12:30 p.m. news on WSYX in Columbus, the WSYX reporter said during a live news report that the pending toxicology results from the bloodstream may not be of any use to investigators on account of the body being in the water too long.

But on the WSYX website, it reported that the coroner's office are waiting on toxicology results to determine cause and manner of death.


http://abc6onyourside.com/news/loca...-in-scioto-river-identified-as-joey-labute-jr


The WBNS website is reporting that the CPD Missing Person’s Unit has now turned over their case to the Homicide Unit which handles all death investigations.


http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2016/03/31/body-found-in-scioto-identified-as-joey-labute.html
 
I have an Android phone and tablet. I fiddled with the jibberish text to see what autocorrect would do. I got Johnson, Johnston, and Kingston as suggested words.

Thank you. I read somewhere awhile back that Joey had a Android phone.
 

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