TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #18

[Batbrat]

Batbrat....So, IF it is a female, it would be a quite tall female.....even after subtracting helmet height from the head and however thick the boots are? So, maybe 5 feet 8 inches? JMO

I accounted for the helmet and shoe soles. Keep in mind, the original surveillance footage is very distorted from a wide-angle lens perspective, especially around the outer edges of the frame. My only digital lens-correction is a filter setting in Photoshop, so I'm unsure of it's accuracy. Because of that, I isolated the frame with the least amount of lens distortion variation between the subject and a door (which I used for scale), and the closest perspective distance. Even with minor lens correction, the image is still distorted due to the top-down perspective of the camera, which is not something you can correct in a 2D image, so I left that as is. My measurements, based on a standard commercial door hardware installation of 950-1000mm gives me somewhere between 1890 and 1900mm in height overall, or 1800 and 1820mm in height subtracting around 2-3 inches for helmet and shoe soles.

I want to make sure folks here know that I'm not an expert in image analysis. I do not have access to the actual scene, nor the experience and technology the LE image lab specialists have. This was made just for my own curiosity. I don't know the actual door hardware measurements in that church, nor am I confident with my software's lens correction capabilities, so I could very well be way off in my estimates. Hopefully we'll eventually find out just how much.

 

[Baby beach]

BB said he spoke with Missy at 9:30 that night. But he checked in on Facebook at the oyster restaurant at 9:30 or so.

Question. What's the time difference between Mississippi and Texas. And did he state if he spoke to her at 9:30 her time or his. I remember him saying she started dosing off on the phone. So I think it was 9:30 her time?

Now depending on the time difference; I must wonder if the check in facebook post at 9:30 was in texas or Mississippi time.

Because it would be impossible to be posting to facebook while on the phone with your wife at the same time. Jmo.

Mississippi and Texas are both Central time zone.

 

[wgram]

Good advice.

Yes it is. As a graphic artist I know this is very true.

 

[Bill Carson]

I hope that the police have thoroughly interviewed people at the church and looked at the videos from recent services.

 

[SandyQLS]

Respectfully BBM. The Company that put up the first $10K Reward was done fairly quick. So it makes very much sense to me, why Crime Stoppers didn't immediately plop down their $, save it for later or another case. Main thing in my opinion was there was a Reward offered for info leading to an arrest and indictment for MB murder. JMHO

Crime Stoppers doesn't always offer reward money, and sometimes they mentiongenerous rewards offered by others in a case. Crime Stoppers originated for people who don't want to get involved, are afraid of police or afraid of criminals, etc.; it is a 501c3 charitable organization. My post was more about the fact that Crime Stoppers has not put out any reminder that a person could call them and give a totally anonymous tip without calling LE, and my hope that this is a good sign that LE has a suspect(s) and also that this is not a stranger crime - ie, it could be meaningful that Crime Stoppers is not involved. If local WS have seen any Crime Stoppers reminders on TV there, let us know.

Anonymous tips in the USA 1-800-222-TIPS

 

[jpo74]

I did my best to read the last thread. What has happened that has people now leaning to a male killer? The last I heard from here is that it is a white female with an old broke right foot or ankle not her leg and she is married to an afr. american male which matches ct. And the radio reporter said arrest will happen long before this upcoming Thursday.

i hope an arrest in this case is made soon if they have enough to charge them with. i dont wanna see them go arrest and not have enough for conviction. those poor girls of hers and her family need justice for missy.

 

[jpo74]

Wow, we have 18 threads, now, on this case. I am hoping by the time thread #19 begins, we will be able to discuss an arrested suspect.

:jail:

should this case have its own fourm? :thinking: with 18 threads and counting plus media threads, wouldnt it be easier? :thinking:

 

[SandyQLS]

Thanks Batbrat. What was your height estimate again? 70-72 inches = 5'10" to 6' tall?

 

[arkansasmimi]

BB said he spoke with Missy at 9:30 that night. But he checked in on Facebook at the oyster restaurant at 9:30 or so.

Question. What's the time difference between Mississippi and Texas. And did he state if he spoke to her at 9:30 her time or his. I remember him saying she started dosing off on the phone. So I think it was 9:30 her time?

Now depending on the time difference; I must wonder if the check in facebook post at 9:30 was in texas or Mississippi time.

Because it would be impossible to be posting to facebook while on the phone with your wife at the same time. Jmo.

Same time zone. Central Standard Time zone.

ETA... I thought you could do that with an iPhone /smartphone? I don't use my phone for anything but talk and text. (too hard to read even with bifocals lol)

 

[jpo74]

No, they are not releasing that information.

i dont know how true, but on NG some guy said about 5'8" - 5'9"

 

[SandyQLS]

That looks like a woman to me too. It is just so hard for me to wrap my head around WHO it would be---what woman buys a SWAT outfit and hides in a church, waiting to bludgeon a very strong, fit woman to her death? It takes a 'special' type of woman to even consider it, let alone do it.

LOL. From the moment I first saw the video, on NG, I thought , "That's a woman." Then I started to think it is either a woman who sometimes walks like a man, or a man who sometimes walks like a woman. I just rewatched the MPD video over and over for an hour, and it is either two people (LM@O) or it is a man. My opinion of the moment, a man.

 

[Jsoeur]

BB said he spoke with Missy at 9:30 that night. But he checked in on Facebook at the oyster restaurant at 9:30 or so.

Question. What's the time difference between Mississippi and Texas. And did he state if he spoke to her at 9:30 her time or his. I remember him saying she started dosing off on the phone. So I think it was 9:30 her time?

Now depending on the time difference; I must wonder if the check in facebook post at 9:30 was in texas or Mississippi time.

Because it would be impossible to be posting to facebook while on the phone with your wife at the same time. Jmo.

Same TZ. On iPhone it's very easy to "multitask" ... I've zoned out of business meetings by surfing the web, FB, Etc, lol
i like the critical thinking though... BB's posts in the days before the murder do seem off, IMO

 

[whonos]

The hired hit isn't off the table, yet.

Think like a stalker...
Think like a killer...


That's the way cases are solved, by thinking like a possible suspect.

The fairgrounds and campgrounds are what really give me the pit feeling.

Nothing is 100% verified except that Missy died.

All JMO

(The discussion is about a festival, that Imcurious2 found, which takes place every weekend during April and May, about 10 minutes from the church)

Or random thrill kill, (google it). I guess it is just easier for me to imagine a total loony who kills for fun, than that anyone, seemingly sane (as are all the suspects who have been discussed) could fabricate a reason to murder.

Although I do not get the idea of itinerant circus performers, these people do perform and are visitors to the area. The festival offers a whole range of Renaissance type activities, such as jousting. In addition, there are psychics and Tarot card readers. They also have shops like "Suit Your Fancie Costume Rental", owned by a company in Arlington, Texas. Link to the company's website: http://costumesbydusty.com/
Following is the description and location that the festival provides:
A variety of costuming options to help you temporarily indulge in playing dress up while at the Festival.
Crown Meadow

Shoppe #100 Front Gate Area

 

[TeaTime]

Today, let us remember the family and dear friends who are quite aware that a month has passed since they last saw their loved one, Missy. Was she just here yesterday or has it been a million years since she was with them? They reach for the phone to call her only to again realize that she is gone and they will never see her again in this life. They have things to tell her, things to share with her, advice they need that only she can provide. They miss her smile, her laugh, her voice, her ways and they desperately want to hold her in their arms again. Their hearts are heavy, their chests ache with the burden of their grief, they do not believe that the pain will ever end and know that their lives will never be the same as it was when she was here. They shake their fists in anger and desperation over her death and only wish to have Missy back but have no power to make that happen. Their sorrow is real and raw.

Let us all offer a prayer for them today. Let us all also offer a prayer for LE that they will be guided to solve this crime and bring her murderer to justice.

 

[Phoebeb]

If not a female, I think that guy has an effeminate gait, maybe it's the way the arms swing.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

BB said he spoke with Missy at 9:30 that night. But he checked in on Facebook at the oyster restaurant at 9:30 or so.

Question. What's the time difference between Mississippi and Texas. And did he state if he spoke to her at 9:30 her time or his. I remember him saying she started dosing off on the phone. So I think it was 9:30 her time?

Now depending on the time difference; I must wonder if the check in facebook post at 9:30 was in texas or Mississippi time.

Because it would be impossible to be posting to facebook while on the phone with your wife at the same time. Jmo.

You can be on speakerphone or headset on a call and use an iPhone to be on FB or other apps. I think he had an iPad, too, so he may have been talking on the phone and on FB on the iPad. Also the search warrant had two numbers for him, so he may have been talking on one and online with the other.

Too many possibilities for this to be definitive, unfortunately!

 

[Lilywhee]

Did anyone see the "negative" comment on the Midlothian PD post about the SWFA reward that was right above BB's? Same person has a very disturbing post shared on Mon May 9th about 5:45pm Central

I saw the one responding to BB about the reward...creepy. I didn't see the one on May 9. I don't know why but I thought the post by BB about the rewards was kind of weird.

 

[arkansasmimi]

1 month ago Missy Bevers drove into parking lot of Creekside Church of Christ.. May she Rest in Loving Peace

I feel there will be a bunch of "anniversary type media today" Hoping its only something new...

 

[Nationals]

You can be on speakerphone or headset on a call and use an iPhone to be on FB or other apps. I think he had an iPad, too, so he may have been talking on the phone and on FB on the iPad. Also the search warrant had two numbers for him, so he may have been talking on one and online with the other.

Too many possibilities for this to be definitive, unfortunately!

You can also have your 2nd phone and ATM and credits cards in another state being used by someone else while you're showing up "in your driveway with a Mississippi tag at 3pm." Question is: Where were you at 4 AM? Short of video of you out of state at a time where it would to impossible to drive back in time and commit the crime, you're still on the list. And even if all of those ducks were in order, you should still be on the list. According to former FBI guy I saw interviewed on Crime Time, perp is a male, and he has a LOT of very interesting things to say. The case is so clouded with multiple players because Missy lived a full life and knew people, but I go with statistics.

 

[KaaBoom]

You can also have your 2nd phone and ATM and credits cards in another state being used by someone else while you're showing up "in your driveway with a Mississippi tag at 3pm."

You could but security cameras which are on all ATMs and at most point of purchases, would give that away easy.