SC - KB, 30, (alive) & Charlie Carver, 32, (dec'd) Anderson, 31 Aug 2016 *Arrest* #2

[TarainVA]

I didn't see anyone that matched, but some on there started deactivating profiles or hiding face photos once they knew people were looking in re: to them.

 

[Hatfield]

This does really concern me. I wonder if he met a techie person in a bar and locked them in that same trailer to do all his web design work for free and then killed the person when he got his Real Estate website all up and running.

""We went out and got professional graphic designers, web developers, specialists in marketing in a variety of fields, and gave them a job. Then we threatened not to feed them if it didn't work," the page reads. "It's amazing the motivation you can get after day three!""

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...ld-increased-after-she-went-missing/93284146/

 

[LisaWL7TR]

I deleted my post. I am losing my mind.

I was up reading till 4 to be caught up and had to be up again at 8. I believe I lost my mind.

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[cementcanoe]

I didn't see anyone that matched, but some on there started deactivating profiles or hiding face photos once they knew people were looking in re: to them.

On the other site? I cannot imagine how terrifying this must be to the locals in that community.

 

[cujenn81]

Still continuing to catch up but.... I have a feeling he's a Ted Bundy.
Reading all his comments and the items he reviewed is just horrifying. He is literally telling the truth but hiding it with possible dark humor. I do not think this is his first time. At all. He was way too sure of himself. I'm just floored. When I first saw them missing I thought maybe they had been in a car accident also and yet to be found. This is deeply disturbing. It makes you look at everyone differently when cases like this emerge. You wonder if you realllllly know your friends and family.

Another reminder about how helpful and informative "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker can be (as another member referenced this book earlier). He also talks about being wary of those who use dark humor because it can be an indicator of violent behavior.

Side note: He also says... that if you ever catch YOURSELF using dark humor, it's incredibly important to investigate WHY immediately. He said it can be a warning sign that we are continuing to do something even though we aren't sure it's smart, or safe, and our intuition is telling us not to do it. For example, if you find yourself telling a friend "I'll call you when I get home, if I don't get killed walking to my car," your intuition might be trying to tell you that it's too dangerous to walk to your car alone. If so, should take note and listen to it.


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[cementcanoe]

He also says... that if you ever catch YOURSELF using dark humor, it's incredibly important to investigate WHY immediately. He said it can be a warning sign that we are continuing to do something even though we aren't sure it's smart, or safe, and our intuition is telling us not to do it. For example, if you find yourself telling a friend "I'll call you when I get home, if I don't get killed walking to my car," your intuition might be trying to tell you that it's too dangerous to walk to your car alone. If so, should take note and listen to it.

Wow, I would never have even thought about it, just brushed it off as a brain glitch or something. That is good advice, thank you for sharing!

 

[ArianeEmory]

I was up reading till 4 to be caught up and had to be up again at 8. I believe I lost my mind.

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Had bad insomnia last night and was up with this one and the other case you were posting on last night. (Websleuths is the WRONG way to try to cure insomnia.)

 

[Hatfield]

Another reminder about how helpful and informative "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker can be (as another member referenced this book earlier). He also talks about being wary of those who use dark humor because it can be an indicator of violent behavior.

Side note: He also says... that if you ever catch YOURSELF using dark humor, it's incredibly important to investigate WHY immediately. He said it can be a warning sign that we are continuing to do something even though we aren't sure it's smart, or safe, and our intuition is telling us not to do it. For example, if you find yourself telling a friend "I'll call you when I get home, if I don't get killed walking to my car," your intuition might be trying to tell you that it's too dangerous to walk to your car alone. If so, should take note and listen to it.


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Very good points. I am going to have to read that book.

There have been quite a few people that crossed paths with this guy and their intuition made them back away. Thank goodness they had the intuition they needed.

I know my weakness is I usually have pretty good intuition but where I fail is I sometimes toss it aside and blow it off. I need to do much better in that regard.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Another reminder about how helpful and informative "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker can be (as another member referenced this book earlier). He also talks about being wary of those who use dark humor because it can be an indicator of violent behavior.

Side note: He also says... that if you ever catch YOURSELF using dark humor, it's incredibly important to investigate WHY immediately. He said it can be a warning sign that we are continuing to do something even though we aren't sure it's smart, or safe, and our intuition is telling us not to do it. For example, if you find yourself telling a friend "I'll call you when I get home, if I don't get killed walking to my car," your intuition might be trying to tell you that it's too dangerous to walk to your car alone. If so, should take note and listen to it.


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Oh God, do you know the Tim Bosma case? He was murdered by two idiots who wanted to steal his truck. (It was a complicated and horrific crime.)

So after his wife and their friend watched Tim drive away with the two guys for the "test drive", one of them joked "that may be the last time we ever see him"--precisely because the fake "buyers" gave them a vague sense of unease.

(Sadly this "joke test" would never work for me--my sense of humor is always as black as night and I always suspect everyone is potentially dangerous. Bad childhood.)

Oh, and I highly recommend Gift of Fear.

 

[PositiveLight]

Another reminder about how helpful and informative "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker can be (as another member referenced this book earlier). He also talks about being wary of those who use dark humor because it can be an indicator of violent behavior.

Side note: He also says... that if you ever catch YOURSELF using dark humor, it's incredibly important to investigate WHY immediately. He said it can be a warning sign that we are continuing to do something even though we aren't sure it's smart, or safe, and our intuition is telling us not to do it. For example, if you find yourself telling a friend "I'll call you when I get home, if I don't get killed walking to my car," your intuition might be trying to tell you that it's too dangerous to walk to your car alone. If so, should take note and listen to it.


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Oh yes!
I'm a strong believer in listening to your gut instinct. It has never failed me so far. If it feels wrong, get away from the situation. Your instinct is like your own security system. It becomes activated when your subconscious picks up on odd or different vibes. Actually, don't walk. RUN. Like Hatfield was describing his encounter he did the right thing and it saved his life more than likely.
People near him had to have been getting those vibes from him. A lot of people who survive serial killers listened to their gut and trusted it.
We all have that radar and we must use it or it gathers cobwebs. His dark humor is obviously him telling the truth I think and people not even realizing it. He may have gained some excitement from that.

 

[LisaWL7TR]

Had bad insomnia last night and was up with this one and the other case you were posting on last night. (Websleuths is the WRONG way to try to cure insomnia.)

I agree!

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[cementcanoe]

Iirc they were posting about the account before even mentioning that CDC was still missing. It's really off-putting to me, honestly.

**In response to: Update tonight on the KB : "Because of what happened to her and this horrible ordeal that she has been through, KB has lost her job, her car, and her home."

Huh? What job? I thought she didn't have current employment and was cleaning houses for TK on the side. Her car was in the parking lot. Didn't her family have it towed to someone's house?

I'm not saying people shouldn't contribute...no doubt poor KB needs help...just confused if I missed something after all this time.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Update tonight on the KB : "Because of what happened to her and this horrible ordeal that she has been through, KB has lost her job, her car, and her home."

Huh? What job? I thought she didn't have current employment and was cleaning houses for TK on the side. Her car was in the parking lot. Didn't her family have it towed to someone's house?

I'm not saying people shouldn't contribute...no doubt poor KB needs help...just confused if I missed something after all this time.

I am in favor of her getting some donations and I'm still a bit ... judgmental ... about how LE handled it. But I hope a more legitimate source than will step up for her medical bills and to help her put her life back together.

 

[Paddleboarder]

But what about the Hotel California thing? What if both the ex and TK were posting things on CDC's account from different locations? Ex has the computer, TK has the phone. I don't know, though. I didn't see any of the posts, but supposedly they were taunting and dark in nature which sounds only like TK doing it.

Very taunting. It seems like something he would do. The missing flyer was posted. That's just cruel.


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[Valkyrii]

I'm currently reading "The Gift of Fear" after having it recommended to me by dozens of people after I was abducted and assaulted 2 years ago. It's honestly really enlightening (I had a lot of feelings I ignored) and is helping me have the confidence to stop worrying about appearing rude and to listen to my instincts. Everyone should read that book.

Reading through hundreds of cases here on Websleuths has also been a huge educator for me as well.

 

[LisaWL7TR]

Wow, I would never have even thought about it, just brushed it off as a brain glitch or something. That is good advice, thank you for sharing!

Sorta OT Reminds me of another case on here where the daughter told Dad if I'm not home by(forgot exact words) to call the police.

I wish if what I read was correct(smh media) that KB or Charlie would have mentioned to someone their plans of going over there.




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[ultraviolet]

Update tonight on the KB : "Because of what happened to her and this horrible ordeal that she has been through, KB has lost her job, her car, and her home."

Huh? What job? I thought she didn't have current employment and was cleaning houses for TK on the side. Her car was in the parking lot. Didn't her family have it towed to someone's house?

I'm not saying people shouldn't contribute...no doubt poor KB needs help...just confused if I missed something after all this time.

2016 taxes were due on her car August 25th. Maybe the car wasn't fully paid for and when she went missing, the family couldn't afford to keep up the payments so they gave it back?

 

[granola]

I'm guessing that her family couldn't afford to keep paying her car payment, nor her apartment rent. I can understand why they'd want to help her financially right now, in addition to not having those things, if she doesn't have insurance (no job) she's having to self-pay medical bills, possibly upfront. She needs to be able to access any medical/mental health help she needs, so I'm not going to criticize them for the .

 

[cementcanoe]

Victims services should provide at least the first few months of therapy, shouldn't they? I once got into an argument with my husband and was offered a lot of services for survivors of domestic abuse & all we did was yell at each other and slam a door.

 

[Suglo]

Update tonight on the KB : "Because of what happened to her and this horrible ordeal that she has been through, KB has lost her job, her car, and her home."

Huh? What job? I thought she didn't have current employment and was cleaning houses for TK on the side. Her car was in the parking lot. Didn't her family have it towed to someone's house?

I'm not saying people shouldn't contribute...no doubt poor KB needs help...just confused if I missed something after all this time.

It could have been repossessed for lack of payment. I know the families had to move their possessions out of the apartment and return the keys. I wonder if SC has a victim's compensation fund for victims of violent crimes? We do here in California.


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