The Sidebar - Harris Trial #2

[SuperTmo]

Here is the video again:

[video=youtube;ejbNodQF36A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejbNodQF36A[/video]

I feel like I saw him dip down slightly with his head turned towards the back seat. Like he was looking towards the back of the car and it was a VERY slight dip.

ETA: not dip... sort of a lean. Slight. VERY slight. It could be my imagination.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Does anyone recall if they showed the "divorce checklist" url or any other info about it on camera during the testimony?

On May 9, 2014, a webpage titled "Divorce/Legal Separation Checklist" was accessed following a search on the Home Depot's network, Persinger says. Harris searched "name change" to pull up the page, Persinger testifies.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Grainy Enhancement. Rodriguez told the Expert to follow the blur (the head as the expert pointed out) never went below the roof of SUV. Also at this link : A forensic specialist told jurors Harris visited an employee page titled 'Divorce/Legal Separation Checklist'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...seven-hours-baking-hot-day.html#ixzz4PdhtglSQ
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...son-died-left-seven-hours-baking-hot-day.html

 

[Hope4More]

Frankly, I am no longer a bit open minded about this case. I am convinced of my position, solidly, after watching the interrogation videos, considering the evidence, especially his knowledge of FBS, hot car deaths, the look back campaign, etc. We simply interpret the evidence totally differently. I cannot be convinced, at this point, that this was an accident.

I think all of us gave up on convincing one another about innocence or guilt a LONG time ago, lol. I wouldn't try n any case, much less with you, because I can't help but have noticed your position is firm indeed. Shall I save my time in countering your list with my list then?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Looking for the pic

1:30 p.m. Persinger says Harris visited a website on May 9 , 2014 that held a checklist for a divorce. The website was titled, "Divorce, legal separation checklist." Persinger says the website was internal on the Home Depot website.

This?

 

[watergirl62]

Check out @SamanthaJoKnows's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SamanthaJoKnows/status/796809610141323264?s=09

Interesting.

*snip*

The jurors asked to have the large-screen monitor moved extremely close to the jury box so they would have a good view. As the video played, all the jurors paid rapt attention. At one point, one young juror looked to a man behind him and nodded his head.

http://www.ajc.com/news/local/hot-c...-depot-security-video/IvhhlRvEKNPrQqWCuhhEdP/

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Any more word about possible verdict?

 

[NCTeacher]

I feel like I saw him dip down slightly with his head turned towards the back seat. Like he was looking towards the back of the car and it was a VERY slight dip.

ETA: not dip... sort of a lean. Slight. VERY slight. It could be my imagination.

What I saw was someone open the car door, turn towards the building, lean into the car and toss without looking.

. I tried recreating this, it is very awkward and unnatural.

He looked like he was avoiding looking into the car. I'm someone who would toss the lightbulbs, I'm also someone who would put a gallon of milk on top of bread, but even I would look into the car before tossing the bulbs. Unless, I was in mad dash, swinging open the door, toss, and run. He was at the car too log for mad dash moves.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Hot-car jury asks to see Home Depot security video

Bill Rankin The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
2:52 p.m Thursday, Nov. 10, 2016 Metro Atlanta / State news

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The jury in the Justin Ross Harris hot-car murder trial on Thursday asked to watch yet another video — this one a security video of Harris returning to his car at lunchtime and tossing light bulbs inside.

The jurors asked to have the large-screen monitor moved extremely close to the jury box so they would have a good view. As the video played, all the jurors paid rapt attention. At one point, one young juror looked to a man behind him and nodded his head.

Prosecutors have said Harris should have been able to see Cooper in his car seat when he walked up to open his driver’s side door and toss the light bulbs inside. But the video shows Harris never put his head below the roofline of the car. He walks up, tosses the package inside, closes the door and walks away. In a matter of seconds
http://www.ajc.com/news/local/hot-c...-depot-security-video/IvhhlRvEKNPrQqWCuhhEdP/

 

[bellesnwhistles]

I don't see a verdict happening today but hope I'm wrong. If they're getting close could they stay late?

 

[byo]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 2m2 minutes ago

#RossHarris - Good information from @PhilHollowayEsq . The alternate jurors are brought into the courtroom to watch vids w/jurors each time.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Cathy @courtchatter
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#RossHarris - Good information from @PhilHollowayEsq . The alternate jurors are brought into the courtroom to watch vids w/jurors each time.

 

[NCTeacher]

Check out @SamanthaJoKnows's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SamanthaJoKnows/status/796809610141323264?s=09

Interesting.

*snip*

The jurors asked to have the large-screen monitor moved extremely close to the jury box so they would have a good view. As the video played, all the jurors paid rapt attention. At one point, one young juror looked to a man behind him and nodded his head.

http://www.ajc.com/news/local/hot-c...-depot-security-video/IvhhlRvEKNPrQqWCuhhEdP/

OMG. It's GDFR.

 

[NCTeacher]

I don't see a verdict happening today but hope I'm wrong. If they're getting close could they stay late?

I predict a verdict within the hour.

If not, I bet they stay until they get one. Nobody want to come back Monday. It's obvious they are contemplating the malice by their latest evidence requests--and based on the court chatter I just read on here...they're nearly done.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

total 5 sec for total open door toss close walk away per testimony iirc. Plus the video was so grainy, but even in the enhanced, his head never went below the top of car. Stoddard had said that "he was in there"

Back when Stoddard first testified about this, in my mind when he said he was inside the frame of the vehicle I thought he meant inside the triangular area that the open car door creates next to the car, not that JRH had stooped down to peer inside the car as he put the bulbs in.

I thought the point was how close he was to the car. People are using this as "proof" that Stoddard lied, but I think his testimony is being misunderstood.

 

[monkeypants]

This?

:yeahthat:

 

[Carolina Girl]

I am totally convinced that he intentionally left Cooper in the car.

 

[Renee110]

I think there will be strong opinions among the jurors. Very strong. But I am hopeful that unlike us, they didn't go into deliberations with their kinds made up. So they are going to maybe view the evidence much differently than ANY of us. I believe that those of us convinced one way or the other simply view the evidence in a way that confirms our biases. Because it is no coincidence that everyone who thinks Ross is innocent would toss light bulbs into a car and everyone who doesn't would not. (P.S., I had to struggle with my bias greatly to realize and admit that I definitely could toss light bulbs into my car. I mean there is a reason I break so much stuff!).

But for me, it;s just the raft of "coincidences" that befell poor Ross that day. There have been too much.
1. He just happened to decide it was imperative to stop at his car to drop off lightbulbs he purchased on the day his son died in the car, instead of taking them to his workspace.
2. He just happened to be the type of personality who thinks lightbulbs are important enough to go out of your way to take to the car during lunch, but not important enough to place them on the backseat or at least not toss them in without looking.
3. He just happened to remember every last detail of his day, but "forgot" that he went back to his car at lunch, when his son lay there dying, and coincidentally omitted that one, horrible fact from his detailed account of the day to investigators.
4. He just happened to not be the type to turn around when backing up between two parked cars.
5. He just happened to take a longer route to the movies that day. One that conveniently had him turning right and "discovering" Cooper in a crowded parking lot.
6. After entering the restaurant wide awake, running around inside it (according to him), being awake enough to kiss Daddy on the cheek and say "school", Cooper just happened to be so exhausted that he instantaneously fell asleep and made zero noise for the next 40 seconds in the car, or any time after.
7. Ross just happened to forget his son after having recently watched a news report about a FBS dad turned advocate recently before Cooper's death, who taught him about the look back campaign.
8. Ross just happened to not "look again" that day, despite saying that's what he does to make sure his worst fear didn't come true.
9. He just happened to watch a hot car video from a vet five days before Cooper died. He just happened to commented that he did not want that to happen to his son, not dog. Yet he just happened to totally forget what he just saw, on the day he drove his son.

I mean I could go on and on. For me, at a certain point, it's too much.

Exactly as I said earlier. One coincidence, two, three, but more than that and you can stick a fork in me, I'm done.

 

[NCTeacher]

I am totally convinced that he intentionally left Cooper in the car.

Me too. And my hunch based on what I'm reading about in-court behavior is, members of this jury think so too, solidly. The question is: can all 12 get behind this-or will it be hung?

 

[Ociboys]

I think there will be strong opinions among the jurors. Very strong. But I am hopeful that unlike us, they didn't go into deliberations with their kinds made up. So they are going to maybe view the evidence much differently than ANY of us. I believe that those of us convinced one way or the other simply view the evidence in a way that confirms our biases. Because it is no coincidence that everyone who thinks Ross is innocent would toss light bulbs into a car and everyone who doesn't would not. (P.S., I had to struggle with my bias greatly to realize and admit that I definitely could toss light bulbs into my car. I mean there is a reason I break so much stuff!).

But for me, it;s just the raft of "coincidences" that befell poor Ross that day. There have been too much.
1. He just happened to decide it was imperative to stop at his car to drop off lightbulbs he purchased on the day his son died in the car, instead of taking them to his workspace.
2. He just happened to be the type of personality who thinks lightbulbs are important enough to go out of your way to take to the car during lunch, but not important enough to place them on the backseat or at least not toss them in without looking.
3. He just happened to remember every last detail of his day, but "forgot" that he went back to his car at lunch, when his son lay there dying, and coincidentally omitted that one, horrible fact from his detailed account of the day to investigators.
4. He just happened to not be the type to turn around when backing up between two parked cars.
5. He just happened to take a longer route to the movies that day. One that conveniently had him turning right and "discovering" Cooper in a crowded parking lot.
6. After entering the restaurant wide awake, running around inside it (according to him), being awake enough to kiss Daddy on the cheek and say "school", Cooper just happened to be so exhausted that he instantaneously fell asleep and made zero noise for the next 40 seconds in the car, or any time after.
7. Ross just happened to forget his son after having recently watched a news report about a FBS dad turned advocate recently before Cooper's death, who taught him about the look back campaign.
8. Ross just happened to not "look again" that day, despite saying that's what he does to make sure his worst fear didn't come true.
9. He just happened to watch a hot car video from a vet five days before Cooper died. He just happened to commented that he did not want that to happen to his son, not dog. Yet he just happened to totally forget what he just saw, on the day he drove his son.

I mean I could go on and on. For me, at a certain point, it's too much.

My thoughts exactly! I stated earlier prior to closing arguments and Boring brought it up too....He left work early (4:15) to go to a movie. No rush, not late. He entered that vehicle and drove off in three seconds, windows up, no hesitation. This is the same man who shared concern/complained 2x with Officer Piper that he was uncomfortable (hot) in the patrol car at the scene. I'm on the fence on whether he did this deliberately from the get go. However, there is no doubt in my mind he realized Cooper was in the car at some point during the morning and took no precautions to secure the welfare of his child. Instead, a whole snowball of "it just so happens" puts this poor child in the morgue. JMOO.