HODGE-PODGE - LISK-related

I watched most of the trailer. They certainly didn't have much of a budget, and I have to wonder if anyone in the production company is also involved in low-budget *advertiser censored*?? (Could they know Tony or Big Al and have an inside scoop?)

Fredna, you and I must be sharing a brain these days. I thought the same damned thing. It really DOES have a low budget *advertiser censored* feel to it, doesn't it?
 
Fredna, you and I must be sharing a brain these days. I thought the same damned thing. It really DOES have a low budget *advertiser censored* feel to it, doesn't it?

Actually yes. A little IMDB research on it proved that at least one of the cast members have been in movies such as:
1991 Beetlejisum (Video)
1991 Lessons in Humiliation (Video)
1991 Lusty Dusty (Video)
1991 Rick's Bondage Playmate (Video)
1991 Sex *advertiser censored* from Beyond the Galaxy (Video)
1991 Stick It in the Rear (Video)

Mod snip if any of those titles are too spicy.

* Just found a second person on the cast list involved in similar film titles.
 
I watched most of the trailer. They certainly didn't have much of a budget, and I have to wonder if anyone in the production company is also involved in low-budget *advertiser censored*?? (Could they know Tony or Big Al and have an inside scoop?)

You are very correct FRED&EDNA

The writer and producer of the film is stating here (in response to "eagle spirits" saying "who would want to see your film - you're all *advertiser censored* people anyway" that HE himself was in the *advertiser censored* business as well as 3 others in the film.!!!

The Gilgo Beach Murders
If I could respond to "Eagle Spirits" (www.facebook.com/eagle.spirits.5 ) who just posted some negative comments ("who would want to see your film anyway? You're just a bunch of *advertiser censored* people") on my my heartfelt post regarding the film emerging from my soul, I'd say, first of all out of the 40+ people involved in the making of this film, only myself and 3 others had involvement in the adult film industry. And the 4 of us like all the others who worked on the film (who never had any involvement in adult entertainment whatsoever, not that it matters) are kind and compassionate people, who are loved and respected by many for our artistic talents and for our personal and professional integrity. You Eagle Spirits most of all should see my film, because if there's a message behind it, it's that we shouldn't judge people we really know nothing about (which clearly you've done to us).

Remember: When we judge someone, we're judging ourselves. When we hate someone, we're hating ourselves. When we love someone, we're loving ourselves.

JD 11.11

(I'm guessing that JD. 11.11 is Joseph DiPietro the producer/director and 11.11 of course is today's date)
 
ok web sleuthers...

you are all here because you have said you want justice for the girls.

well.... there is legislation in front of congress.....
called the Trafficking Victims Protection Justice Act

here is the link....

may i please please please please ask you to click on it and sign it?
(if you live in new york) LETS MAKE NEW YORK THE ONE STATE WITH THE TOUGHEST LAWS AGAINST TRAFFICKING!!!!


http://www.getontheagenda.com/letters/TLetter


if you want to learn what the Trafficking Victims Protection Justice Act is...
click on this link.

http://www.legislativegazette.com/A...strengthen-human-trafficking-punishments.html

The Trafficking Victims Protection and Justice Act would toughen penalties for traffickers and patrons, eliminate the ability for a victim of human trafficking to be prosecuted as a prostitute and eliminate the identifying term "prostitute" from the state's penal law and replace it with the phrase "person for prostitution."

The Act also raises the penalty for trafficking people for labor exploitation to a class B felony, the same penalty as trafficking for sexual exploitation. The legislation also holds chauffeurs accountable if they are found to have provided transportation for human traffickers.

The bill also closes the loophole in state law which currently provides a weaker punishment for those convicted of buying sex from a minor. Under the new statute, persons convicted would receive the same punishment as those who rape a child of the same age.

so please...please....please....
if you live in new york state.....

please click and sign the petition.

let's change the law!!!! be a part of changing the law!!!
do it right away - they meet next week....
thank you....


Jose Ruiz (the guy who owned the escort business Shannan was going to testify against) was found guilty of sex trafficking and only got a 9 year prison sentence. (Or maybe 7?)

There was another case I saw recently. 2 men were charged with sex trafficking and got 15 years PROBATION.

It makes no sense to me how that happens. It's slavery no matter how you slice it.
 
You are very correct FRED&EDNA

The writer and producer of the film is stating here (in response to "eagle spirits" saying "who would want to see your film - you're all *advertiser censored* people anyway" that HE himself was in the *advertiser censored* business as well as 3 others in the film.!!!

The Gilgo Beach Murders
If I could respond to "Eagle Spirits" (www.facebook.com/eagle.spirits.5 ) who just posted some negative comments ("who would want to see your film anyway? You're just a bunch of *advertiser censored* people") on my my heartfelt post regarding the film emerging from my soul, I'd say, first of all out of the 40+ people involved in the making of this film, only myself and 3 others had involvement in the adult film industry. And the 4 of us like all the others who worked on the film (who never had any involvement in adult entertainment whatsoever, not that it matters) are kind and compassionate people, who are loved and respected by many for our artistic talents and for our personal and professional integrity. You Eagle Spirits most of all should see my film, because if there's a message behind it, it's that we shouldn't judge people we really know nothing about (which clearly you've done to us).

Remember: When we judge someone, we're judging ourselves. When we hate someone, we're hating ourselves. When we love someone, we're loving ourselves.

JD 11.11

(I'm guessing that JD. 11.11 is Joseph DiPietro the producer/director and 11.11 of course is today's date)



Do you think there might be a connection between DiPietro's *advertiser censored* (past films he was in) and Tony and Big Al's film company??
 
I didn't really think twice when I read DJ's phone policy in this article. It makes perfect sense. And in a somewhat similar fashion, I bet the victims in this case just accepted their client's no phone rule - because of who he was, it made sense.


http://www.barstoolsports.com/nyc/super-page/no-cameras-in-st-jetersburg/

Derek Jeter has a strict “no camera or phones” rule when it comes to his sprawling Florida mansion. We’re told the famously private Yankee has a basket in the foyer of his 30,875-square-foot, multimillion dollar Davis Island home, dubbed by locals “St. Jetersburg.” All guests are expected to plunk down their camera phones before entering his castle. “He points and says, ‘Phones go there,’ so no one can take pictures inside his house,” says a source.
 
I didn't really think twice when I read DJ's phone policy in this article. It makes perfect sense. And in a somewhat similar fashion, I bet the victims in this case just accepted their client's no phone rule - because of who he was, it made sense.


http://www.barstoolsports.com/nyc/super-page/no-cameras-in-st-jetersburg/

Derek Jeter has a strict “no camera or phones” rule when it comes to his sprawling Florida mansion. We’re told the famously private Yankee has a basket in the foyer of his 30,875-square-foot, multimillion dollar Davis Island home, dubbed by locals “St. Jetersburg.” All guests are expected to plunk down their camera phones before entering his castle. “He points and says, ‘Phones go there,’ so no one can take pictures inside his house,” says a source.
Or either who he said he was or whoever the person they left with said they were going to meet.
 
I found some interesting reading about Shannan Gilbert yesterday that I have not seen covered here yet. I have also had the same thoughts a few times while re reading her story to figure out events. In the past anything supernatural was hokey and unbelievable until I had my own experience with it.

It almost seemed as Shannan may have had an extra sensory or clairvoyant episode, especially when the neighbor said she was staring off, looking away in a daze and instead of staying in the security of his home bolted out of the door terrified.

With all the victims who suffered such tragic and terrifying death all placed in a mass grave not far down the road and being so similar to Shannan, she may have had this gift and never known she had.

[h=3]Clairvoyance - Wikipedia[/h]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance



The term clairvoyance (/klɛɹˈvɔɪəns/ or /klɛəˈvɔɪəns/) (from French clair meaning "clear" and voyance meaning "vision") is the alleged ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through extrasensory perception.






 
I found some interesting reading about Shannan Gilbert yesterday that I have not seen covered here yet. I have also had the same thoughts a few times while re reading her story to figure out events. In the past anything supernatural was hokey and unbelievable until I had my own experience with it.

It almost seemed as Shannan may have had an extra sensory or clairvoyant episode, especially when the neighbor said she was staring off, looking away in a daze and instead of staying in the security of his home bolted out of the door terrified.

With all the victims who suffered such tragic and terrifying death all placed in a mass grave not far down the road and being so similar to Shannan, she may have had this gift and never known she had.

[h=3]Clairvoyance - Wikipedia[/h]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance



The term clairvoyance (/klɛɹˈvɔɪəns/ or /klɛəˈvɔɪəns/) (from French clair meaning "clear" and voyance meaning "vision") is the alleged ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through extrasensory perception.







She was known to be a very heavy coke user. That explains her clairvoyance.
 
She was known to be a very heavy coke user. That explains her clairvoyance.

Yes, it could very well be that. The odd thing though is if she was having a bad reaction to drugs is she didn't show other signs of destruction or acting out irrationally. Well not that we know of because the tape has been kept confidential. I wrote this because this thought crossed my mind reading her story a few times. She rode strangely enough right passed those bodies buried, to a job as they had before their deaths, and the girls being so similar to her in lifestyle and profession if there is such a thing as clairvoyance then their presence alone could have caused her an overbearing sense of fear and knowledge of events. By reading the story, it has seemed at times she was seeing things that no one else was.
 
Yes, it could very well be that. The odd thing though is if she was having a bad reaction to drugs is she didn't show other signs of destruction or acting out irrationally. Well not that we know of because the tape has been kept confidential. I wrote this because this thought crossed my mind reading her story a few times. She rode strangely enough right passed those bodies buried, to a job as they had before their deaths, and the girls being so similar to her in lifestyle and profession if there is such a thing as clairvoyance then their presence alone could have caused her an overbearing sense of fear and knowledge of events. By reading the story, it has seemed at times she was seeing things that no one else was.

Interesting angle. It may be quite possible that she was given a drug at the JB house that triggered a vision in her. All of a sudden something connected the dots for her.
 
Just for the record, several reports indicate that Shannon Gilbert was also bipolar. SO that is a whole hot mess mixture going on if she wasn't taking meds for it....even if she was taking meds for it mixing it with street drugs.
 
I found some interesting reading about Shannan Gilbert yesterday that I have not seen covered here yet. I have also had the same thoughts a few times while re reading her story to figure out events. In the past anything supernatural was hokey and unbelievable until I had my own experience with it.

It almost seemed as Shannan may have had an extra sensory or clairvoyant episode, especially when the neighbor said she was staring off, looking away in a daze and instead of staying in the security of his home bolted out of the door terrified.

With all the victims who suffered such tragic and terrifying death all placed in a mass grave not far down the road and being so similar to Shannan, she may have had this gift and never known she had.

[h=3]Clairvoyance - Wikipedia[/h]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance



The term clairvoyance (/klɛɹˈvɔɪəns/ or /klɛəˈvɔɪəns/) (from French clair meaning "clear" and voyance meaning "vision") is the alleged ability to gain information about an object, person, location or physical event through extrasensory perception.







Shannon was gifted that way in her earthly body and in the spirit world. Her spirit is trying to make contact to tell who this killer is.
 
Interesting angle. It may be quite possible that she was given a drug at the JB house that triggered a vision in her. All of a sudden something connected the dots for her.
I believe that she was drugged for the benefit of the killer but she did not react to the drugging as expected.
 
Yes, it could very well be that. The odd thing though is if she was having a bad reaction to drugs is she didn't show other signs of destruction or acting out irrationally. Well not that we know of because the tape has been kept confidential. I wrote this because this thought crossed my mind reading her story a few times. She rode strangely enough right passed those bodies buried, to a job as they had before their deaths, and the girls being so similar to her in lifestyle and profession if there is such a thing as clairvoyance then their presence alone could have caused her an overbearing sense of fear and knowledge of events. By reading the story, it has seemed at times she was seeing things that no one else was.


Yup cause she was at ground zero. By chance, did she or any of the gb4 have any native American lineage in them?
 
Once again, I will reiterate what has come to me about the killer:
Brilliant
Wealthy
Travels a lot internationally and domestically
Mentally fragmented
Owns a penthouse where he keeps his trophies
Has road rage issues
Dark eyes and dark hair
Steely Dan fan
Has access to white passenger van with windows in the back.
The police will never suspect him

That's my profile. Know anyone like that?
 
I believe that she was drugged for the benefit of the killer but she did not react to the drugging as expected.

Yes and yes! She felt the effects and went to the bathroom, the burner phone she was using was on table. She overheard the guest from downstairs and Brewer speaking of what they were going to do. She started to feel the effects of being drugged. She pulled out her regular cell phone and called 911 had them on the line as she came out. I bet Brewer and his killing companion were surprised she had another phone and she ruined their plan, hence the call to driver to come get her or he was already in on it and that is when she ran out the door seeing the exchange of knowing glances!


I have a link under the Shannon thread that she used two phones.
 
Once again, I will reiterate what has come to me about the killer:
Brilliant
Wealthy
Travels a lot internationally and domestically
Mentally fragmented
Owns a penthouse where he keeps his trophies
Has road rage issues
Dark eyes and dark hair
Steely Dan fan
Has access to white passenger van with windows in the back.
The police will never suspect him

That's my profile. Know anyone like that?

I found the guy from the podcast on facebook and some of that information corresponds.
 

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