IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #13

[Gardenista]

Another view of the crime scene looking toward the creek

[video=twitter;835690144137011201]https://twitter.com/Indianapolis_NC/status/835690144137011201[/video]

 

[observation]

Hoping to get this posted before a new thread starts!!

I get an "Isreal Keyes" vibe in this case. As he stated, he didn't hunt his victims, he let them come to him, in woods near trails, there's always people...and he listed other places.

Any way, I have a question, can anyone tell me if there is a place to park a horse trailer near this bridge or trail? Are there any horse boarding places near? Any trails in the area specifically for horse riding? I heard the land owner state the area was accessible by foot, or horse. A horse would/could walk right in that water, leaving the perp dry. Any locals ever seen anyone doing the trails on horseback?

It's possible but being on a horse with 2 teenage girls might get more attention from any witnesses in the area.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[kittymittons]

It's possible but being on a horse with 2 teenage girls might get more attention from any witnesses in the area.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, and based on Mr. Logan's remarks about how you basically have to be on foot to get down there, it seems like it wouldn't be doable to get a horse down there. JMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Breakingbarriers]

I hope this is acceptable. And has not been posted. This video gives an excellent view of the landscape and area. IMO
[video=youtube;_TFz4citG68]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TFz4citG68[/video]

 

[kytty]

The problem is that LE has not been able to release anything super distinctive-he dresses and sounds like everyone else. AND I'm sure it's purposeful on the perps part that he blends so well.

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

Another view of the crime scene looking toward the creek

[video=twitter;835690144137011201]https://twitter.com/Indianapolis_NC/status/835690144137011201[/video]

Doesn't it look like the tape ends at the creek?

 

[Oregonmama]

Maybe tomorrow. With all the billboards up gaining national attention, a picture and voice recording- if nothing pans out- perhaps more info. might be shared with the public. IIRC in the presser they shared as much as they could (which really was more than a lot of cases I follow) but stated they would weigh sharing more if no results are yielded. We shall see. If the BG is not found, I would expect another presser early this week. All eyes are on this case.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We have been waiting several months for an update on the Bevers case on WS......who knows what Delphi's LE is planning

whoo hooo....I hit 1000:rollercoaster:

 

[liltexans]

Investigators are still seeking any information the public has. One small piece to the larger puzzle could help put the person or people who killed the two teenagers behind bars.

“There’s two families grieving the loss of their beautiful daughters,” Slocum said. “We want to at least try to bring that person and or persons into the Carroll County jail sooner rather than later.”

http://wlfi.com/2017/02/25/authorities-takes-no-days-off-to-locate-delphi-teens-killer/

 

[Sillybilly]

Yes, and based on Mr. Logan's remarks about how you basically have to be on foot to get down there, it seems like it wouldn't be doable to get a horse down there. JMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm inclined to think he meant just not by vehicle. When we saw the pic of RL walking to the area with the reporter (detective??), IMO a horse could make it into that area very easily.

 

[observation]

Yes, and based on Mr. Logan's remarks about how you basically have to be on foot to get down there, it seems like it wouldn't be doable to get a horse down there. JMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's seems like the girls were abducted from the other side of that creek where they were found. *Total speculation- but this leaves me to believe he left that immediate area, took them under cover and returned to that area. Why would BG do that?? No clue! Why would he kill two innocent girls? No sense can be gained from BG.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Mysteriousmystery]

Any clue where I can watch part 1 of this? TIA

 

[verbonica]

He is thin and scrawny looking with grey hair. His facial hair would be grey that is hard to color. Liberty 's picture does not show that type of man. The man in her picture looks like he is heavier in chest with pot belly. Not fat. Let's not run away with stuff in our minds just because we see this post about a child molester...He liked little ones...these girls were young ladies. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Look at this picture of him from around 18 months ago. He's not skinny at all. Graying beard, easily shaved off, and notice a still-brown mustache. He is pushing 70-years-old now though... have no idea what kind of shape he's in?

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...rer-formally-charged-with-failure-to-register
-and-
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polop...derivatives/article_1200/dobeski21n-3-web.jpg

I would imagine that LE would certainly have had him on high their radar to check right away, though.

 

[LadyL]

thank you so he marched them approx.10-15 minutes to their death ... there's no way he could carry/drag their bodies that distance IMO even if he had help (two suspects)

From their "drop-off"

"Riley says the bodies were found Tuesday on the edge of the creek about three-quarters of a mile from an abandoned railroad bridge where the two girls, 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams, had been dropped off to go hiking Monday."

http://www.dailyprogress.com/bodies...cle_60bf998c-813f-5640-84ca-dd74cca003f4.html

 

[Jax49]

If referring to my post, here

[video=youtube;AS24hYv_X8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS24hYv_X8Q[/video]

He deleted part one and replaced it with this version.




https://youtu.be/AS24hYv_X8Q

 

[emilie42]

The problem is that LE has not been able to release anything super distinctive-he dresses and sounds like everyone else. AND I'm sure it's purposeful on the perps part that he blends so well.

Yeah. It's too bad LE can't release him "in motion" because that makes a big difference. I'm hoping that's a technological issue and not because anything else would be too sensitive/disturbing. I wonder if he's about to pull a weapon and they don't want to show that because it's something they want to keep back. IMO I'm not convinced his dress is purposeful for blending in. But his hunched shoulders, downward gaze, and hands in pockets would have set off warning bells in my head. That, and the fact that basically cornering two young people on the bridge with nobody else around is a very aggressive act even if you had nothing sinister planned. In my experience, adult men who are NOT creeps are somewhat aware that they CAN be perceived as creepy if they do things like that, and do what they can to not freak people out unintentionally. I think that's something that not all predators are aware of because they don't have experience thinking/processing like a non-creepy person. Whereas the really terrifying predators can do both and know how to mimic behavior that would put people more at ease. If this guy had known how to do that, we probably wouldn't have these photos or the audio.

 

[JezyUn]

Some observations after reading here for the last week.
The perp seems to be possibly wearing motorcycle goggles like these:

That coupled with the observations of others that it was seemingly not cold enough to warrant extra layers, tells that he could very well have used a motorcycle as a means of transportation. Bikers will dress warmer (extra layers, gloves, goggles, hoodie and-or helmet) due to the chill while riding, and IF those are goggles (hard to tell 100%) it would make sense. Motorcycles require specific licensing, maybe it is possible those type of local renewal and licensing records could be searched.
Another thought is that IF he were riding a motorcycle, the chances that he lives very far away from the crime scene, although possible, would seem slight.

 

[kittymittons]

I swear I remember reading an interview with Mr. Logan stating that he thought the only way to get to that location would be by foot, does anyone have a link handy? However he could have not even been thinking about the possibility of a horse. JMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[stg]

Look at this picture of him from around 18 months ago. He's not skinny at all. Graying beard, easily shaved off, and notice a still-brown mustache. He is pushing 70-years-old now though... have no idea what kind of shape he's in?

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...rer-formally-charged-with-failure-to-register
-and-
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polop...derivatives/article_1200/dobeski21n-3-web.jpg

I would imagine that LE would certainly have had him on high their radar to check right away, though.

I am sure they do. I saw the story of his release that week and wondered.

 

[liltexans]

I hope this is acceptable. And has not been posted. This video gives an excellent view of the landscape and area. IMO
[video=youtube;_TFz4citG68]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TFz4citG68[/video]

It's definitely acceptable. The mods told us last night. The man who made these videos is a professional and is a long time member of WS. Thanks for posting it again.

 

[Oregonmama]

Has there been any more search warrants beside the property where the girls were found? I am confident that they had warrants for the girls soical media and cell phone........