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Gitana1, thanks so much for the very informative post. That spelled everything out for us.
Always, always, always glad to read Gitana's input!
Gitana1, thanks so much for the very informative post. That spelled everything out for us.
Always, always, always glad to read Gitana's input!
It’s been a while since I kept up with this case - I’d appreciate if someone can answer a couple of questions:
• Have there been any petitions to terminate M’s parental rights, and has the court ruled on this?
• What is the status of M’s criminal case?
• When is the trial?
• If I understand correctly, the grandmother has custody of the kids, but she is not a permanent conservator or guardian?
• Mark’s brother has intervened in the child welfare case to adopt the kids with Mark’s consent?
I read gitana’s comments - and I don’t know Florida law, but in my state a “consent to adopt” comes in the form of a “relinquishment” of parental rights; and while the parent can designate their preference for adoptive parents, the relinquishment is not conditional on the parental preference being followed.
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Hi Minor.
I think in Florida consent to adopt is the same as consent to relinquishment. But read the cases I cited. That consent is withdrawn and no relinquishment will occur if his preferences over adoption aren't agreed to. So in Florida it is conditional. Very strange and threw me for a loop at first.
So i think the consent to adopt goes along with the brother's petition to intervene and adopt. There have been no rulings on that yet.
I don't know the status of the criminal cases. Or when the trial is.
The maternal grandmother is indeed the permanent guardian.
Mark's brother has intervened with his consent. They're trying to take back custody and prevent her from leaving the state with the kids (although they'd be going to Minnesota if he was allowed to adopt).
According to media, NBC 2 News WBBH, Aug 15, 2017, Scott Sievers lives in Missouri. Why would he then be taking the girls to Minnesota IF he gets to adopt?
Also, many many months ago, media said that Mark Sievers brother was an attorney, then was studying to be an attorney. Does anyone know?
Edit....if the SS I googled is right, he is an attorney in MN....must be new?
Just thinking out loud.....how much has he really seen the girls and been in their lives?
On Ipad so I cannot link the above article...sorry
Hi Minor.
I think in Florida consent to adopt is the same as consent to relinquishment. But read the cases I cited. That consent is withdrawn and no relinquishment will occur if his preferences over adoption aren't agreed to. So in Florida it is conditional. Very strange and threw me for a loop at first.
So i think the consent to adopt goes along with the brother's petition to intervene and adopt. There have been no rulings on that yet.
I don't know the status of the criminal cases. Or when the trial is.
The maternal grandmother is indeed the permanent guardian.
Mark's brother has intervened with his consent. They're trying to take back custody and prevent her from leaving the state with the kids (although they'd be going to Minnesota if he was allowed to adopt).
The two girls wer home-schooled before their mom was killed, but were enrolled in school last year at Bonita Springs Charter School. Since then, their grandmother testified, one of the girls has been upset three times — twice by students and once by a teacher who spoke about the homicide case during class.
"The last week of school I got a call from an assistant principal that a teacher had done something," Groves said. "The teacher said, 'Oh, you have the same last name of the doctor who was allegedly murdered by her husband.''
From Hoosgirl's link:
<bbm>A teacher said that? That's more like something a kid would say in the playground.
Children are children, but that's incredibly shoddy behaviour on the teacher's part. Does anyone know if Sievers is an unusual name there? Strange thing for an adult to mention, never mind a teacher who I'd have thought would be aware of the girls' circumstances.
There are many reasons the girls should be moved away from Florida. The school environment is a major one.
Their young minds, what must be going on in inside of them. Too sad - and anger inducing - for words.
Final steps to end the custody case with Mark, JMO.....There's a hearing on Friday. Not sure what it's about, maybe a technicality now that MS has been found guilty?
16-DR-001179 : Groves, Mary Ann Petitioner vs Sievers, Mark Respondent
Case Type: Custody
Date Filed: 03/21/2016
12/20/2019 CADR Abatement - Fuller, Joseph C, Jr. 9:00 AM Courtroom 4-N
https://matrix.leeclerk.org/Cases/Search
Anyone hear anymore about this?Final steps to end the custody case with Mark, JMO.....
CADR stands for Collaboration and Alternative Dispute Resolution. It is a standard method of reducing litigation by bringing both parties together to mediate the dispute. Abatement on the other hand means to suppress or terminate something. Thus, CADR Abatement translates to avoiding litigation.
What is Abatement and the Law - JustAnswer
www.justanswer.com/topics-abatement/