NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

[Hiandmighty]

I have to say that photo does not scream millionaire businessman or high rolling pro gambler to me.

It makes me think much more blue collar or even underclass.

He obviously kept a low profile. There is a book called "the millionaire next door" or something like that. Blend in.

 

[Betty P]

Or a contract killer maybe, though I think money laundering is more likely, if only because of his background.

Is there any information about his qualifications as an accountant, assuming he was qualified in some way?

Could be he was being hunted by the people he worked for or the government, about to get killed or busted and decided to go out in a blaze of glory.

 

[dotr]

Long and interesting 33:51 interview of brother Eric:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooter-brother-speaks-again/
At video link:
Wealth from real estate investments and
“He called him an independently wealthy man who basically gambled for a living.”

Rbbm.
Hmmm.
That is about all that i can say about the interviewee, imo.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have to say that photo does not scream millionaire businessman or high rolling pro gambler to me.

It makes me think much more blue collar or even underclass.

I know plenty of people with wealth. Most all of them do not flaunt their wealth and look just like ordinary people. Imo he did have wealth but he didnt want to impress anyone. He just didnt care about what others thought, imo. He lived his life to gamble. No matter how he looked or dressed I have no doubt he was catered to when he was at one of the casinos.

 

[dizzychick]

I understand and at one time I thought 64 was old too and they would be too old to do the things they use to do. That is really not the case though. Many even much older than SP are still doing amazing things that takes strength and stamina. I believe why my husband is so healthy and fit is he has never abused drugs or alcohol in his life and has never even had to take any kind of meds and he is constantly active. He just takes his vitamins everyday but he can work rings around our grandsons who are in their teens and 20s. They know there is no way they can keep up with their Papa.

Unfortunately age does not immune anyone from becoming a mass murderer. I think SP was very capable in doing this all by himself.

I certainly hope you are wrong and will live a very long life.

Fox news is saying he was on Diazapam but that is like xanax I thought? That is a calming drug. That was my 1st thought when this guy was identified I wondered if he was on some meds that caused him to go off the wall

 

[dizzychick]

I have to say that photo does not scream millionaire businessman or high rolling pro gambler to me.

It makes me think much more blue collar or even underclass.

I worked for a cheapskate lawyer who said he lived at 93 Sable, his car lol To look at him you would have no idea and IMO that is his cover, he does not want people to know he is loaded. What he failed to see was I worked for him and saw what he did for his ungrateful girlfriend, I saw his books I know better LOL He didnt fool me

 

[kaen]

I am not sure I believe that. Many of the illegal guns being trafficked into our country comes from Mexican gun runners coming into our country selling them to felons and gang members who cant obtain weapons legally.

I am not sure why you would not believe the data from US government agencies. I found these tidbits from the article very interesting. I am not sure this conversation belongs here but since others have posted and responded, I decided that I could as well.

But we do know that in aggregate, among the guns that could be traced back to a particular dealer, nearly three-quarters originated from a seller in California, Arizona or Texas, according to the GAO report. The report notes that there are thousands of licensed firearm dealers operating in those states. ~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ove-americas-gun-laws/?utm_term=.70e59e679469

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has data on exactly which of these retailers are disproportionately likely to sell guns that end up in the hands of cartels. But neither you nor I nor researchers nor state and local governments are allowed to see that data thanks to Congress. In 2005, they passed a bill prohibiting ATF from sharing this data with the public, government agencies, and even with researchers who could help figure out how to try to stanch the flow of illegal guns. ~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ove-americas-gun-laws/?utm_term=.70e59e679469

"Firearm trafficking organizations also frequently obtain firearms from unlicensed private sellers in secondary markets, particularly at gun shows and flea markets or through classified ads or private-party Internet postings," the report found. ~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ove-americas-gun-laws/?utm_term=.70e59e679469

 

[human]

His advance age? My husband is 70 but looks and acts much younger and is a very active, trim, muscular man who can do anything someone else can do at a much younger age. I don't think his age has anything to do with his capabilities to plan and carryout his horrendous deeds.

My husband has always been an avid hunter since he was a young boy but he has never heard of a bump stock until this happened, but then he only uses a semi-automatic rifle to hunt deer which means he has to pull the trigger himself.

I think the point is that he does not fit the typical profile of a domestic terrorist.Roof, Lanza, et al.

The guy who shot Scalise did not fit the profile either.

Guess we have to be afraid of a new domestic terrorist type.

 

[x_files]

O M G. Wth?!? Why am I surprised? Just when it can't get any worse...

I don't see the bumper. Could you tell me what it said?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned. DH and I were wondering last night if SP had a college degree since he's referred to as an "accountant". This article has info about his education:

http://www.dailynews.com/2017/10/03...tate-northridge-graduate-university-confirms/

 

[Isabelle]

Photo of girlfriend being pushed in a wheelchair at airport. Not sure why? Playing the sympathy card? There is just too much strange about this whole situation.

 

[human]

I think the point is that he does not fit the typical profile of a domestic terrorist.Roof, Lanza, et al.

The guy who shot Scalise did not fit the profile either.

Guess we have to be afraid of a new domestic terrorist type.

Your husband can turn that gun into automatic easily. I have been saying that for years and people have scoffed. Finally, the proof. But my nephew is a gun smith and my hubby is super talented in all things so he could figure it out without a purchased item.

He hates guns and my nephew is a gun control advocate. Long ago he ditched his NRA membership

 

[enelram]

Commonly people who are taking the calming drugs will eventually also take the 'upper' drugs in order to function in their daily lives. Say they take a drug to calm down but have a hard time getting up and working the next morning, so they pop an upper, then when they need to relax again, take their downer and on and on.
Lots of people, even professionals that you don't want to hear about, like your doctors and dentists) are living like this.
In my former business life, I had clients who confided in me about their drug habits and this was a normal routine to them. Not unusual at all.

 

[Isabelle]

I wondered that also, but the fathers paid obituary only listed one son, Patrick. So unlikely.

Could be that Patrick was the only son willing to acknowledge the dad.

 

[human]

I worked for a cheapskate lawyer who said he lived at 93 Sable, his car lol To look at him you would have no idea and IMO that is his cover, he does not want people to know he is loaded. What he failed to see was I worked for him and saw what he did for his ungrateful girlfriend, I saw his books I know better LOL He didnt fool me

Many of the rich do not want to advertise their wealth. Look at how Warren Buffet lives

 

[Betty P]

Real estate investing and gambling are two common ways to launder money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering

21 people were recently charged with laundering money in Las Vegas casinos

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/21-charged-in-casino-based-money-laundering-scheme/

The case is the latest in an FBI crackdown on money laundering in Las Vegas, but the alleged criminal behavior extended far beyond city borders, according to the 47-count indictment unsealed last month in federal court.

Eleven of the defendants are in custody, being held on money laundering and related charges, and 10 are fugitives.

Authorities say the scheme lasted from 2013 until the arrests, which occurred earlier this year in several states across the country. Prosecutors are seeking upward of $6 million in forfeiture — a response, they say, to fraudulent proceeds obtained through the use of counterfeit cards and “card skimming” technology.

More:


Caesars Palace fined $9.5M for lax money laundering scrutiny

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/caesars-palace-fined-95m-for-lax-money-laundering-scrutiny/230744023

The federal agency said Caesars Palace willfully and repeatedly violated the Bank Secrecy Act, including allowing high rollers to gamble millions anonymously in private areas of the casino.

 

[Isabelle]

I lot of money can be made in real estate.

I understand a lot of money can be made in real estate, but where did the seed money come from. We are not talking salary paid by IRS or USPS. My career was an RN and my husband and Attorney and salaries combined under $200K a year. Really? Something very fishy about this and it will come out before too long.

 

[Isabelle]

With two planes and experience as an accountant, arms dealing and money laundering come to mind. JMO.

Any connection to drug running out of the Philippines? The wealth does not add up, unless Paddock won a big powerball that was kept under wraps.

 

[Isabelle]

A single guy with no kids and no credit card debt who invests his money in land and real estate can become very wealthy over time. I know two people who have done this.

Especially so if he rode the real estate bubbles the right way.... flipping houses, etc..


Of course it could also be illegal activities...


Or both...

If he and his brother were wealthy from real estate dealings, there will be records. Will be interesting to see how quickly the information turns up.

 

[bluesneakers]

Can anyone please explain the FOX bumper on the bottom here at the beginning??

WTH??

TIA

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Disgusting and shameful and some words I can't use here.