Hi Mica :wave: I also like the article below. Good info on the DNA. The Dr. Phil show sure did cause an uproar with SDSO. They had to call another press conference.
From 11/17/2011, questions for the Sheriffs Crime Lab Director Mr Grubb:
DAVID GOTFREDSON/CBS8:
Real quick. Was there mixed DNA found anywhere else in terms of the -- I think Ms. Bremner said on the show there was mixed DNA found on gloves, on the bed frame, and on the knife. Is there mixed DNA on those items?
GRUBB:
I'll run this down for you fairly quickly. Overwhelmingly, in 10 of the 11 rope segments -- err -- samples from the rope was Rebecca Zahau’s DNA that was found. In one of those samples there was a fragment of DNA from some other source, absolutely un- interpretable. There was a low level of DNA un-interpretable on the large knife from the bedroom floor. There was a low-level mixture of DNA not interpretable on a doorknob to the balcony. Those are the mixtures that I think she was -- and the black gardening gloves that were recovered from a table at the scene? Again, a low level mixture, un- interpretable.
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1606801...nce-not-tested
The Dr Pepper sitting on the defense table: was that a big "oops" or done on purpose?
Who could go into that house(do this) and "never be questioned"?
Have all of you WS completely come to the conclusion that "no one" else could have done this?
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These phone records were obtained as part of the investigation of Max's injury. They wouldn't be available publicly.
Respectfully, Please provide links to back up what you have stated as facts, otherwise you are violating websleuths TOS, as I understand them.
Can you provide a link to this information? I don’t recall ever hearing that before.
I am replying also to the post you quoted from Jessica2012 which said:
"Jonah testified that when the doctor told her Max would never walk or talk again, she began “hysterical”. So did Rebecca, but unfortunately, she took her life during her mental breakdown. If she had onlty reached out to someone, we would not be here discussing this today."
BBM. So earlier in the discussion today (don't remember who said it) her 20 calls to her sister are indicative of her emotional distress, but OTOH she didn't reach out to anyone, and if she had, she might still be alive.
Uh...
The links were placed on this forum in 2011 when the court unsealed them.
Jonah testified that when the doctor told her Max would never walk or talk again, she began “hysterical”. So did Rebecca, but unfortunately, she took her life during her mental breakdown. If she had onlty reached out to someone, we would not be here discussing this today.
When the courts unsealed what? The phone records?
iirc, her sister testified nothing was wrong. It is up to the jury to decide whether she is credible.
FWIW, I've been on two juries, one state, one federal, the state one civil, the federal one criminal.
In both cases the jury instructions advised us to use our common sense and life experience as well as the evidence presented in the courtroom to come to a decision.
With that in mind, if I were on this jury I would find Mary credible according to both measures.
I watched this on the local tv in San Diego this evening.
http://www.kusi.com/rebecca-zahau-trial-latest-with-caitlin-rother/
I've been on several juries and since this case began, I have never found Mary credible. 20 calls in two days is an indication TO ME that something is terribly wrong. JMO
Something WAS terribly wrong. Her boyfriend's son had had a horrific accident on her watch and was in critical condition with a grim prognosis.
Were I in that situation, I would be calling the lead members of my support group (my family, many miles away, just as Rebecca's was) for ... support.
That doesn't mean I would have been suicidal, however. Just that I was, understandably so, upset and seeking reassurance and support from people I trusted.
You understand that excluded means there is NO WAY Adam could have been a contributor to any of the DNA that was of high enough quantities to be tested, right?
Were there prints and DNA on the knives?
The small knife had Rebeccas DNA, and only Rebeccas DNA. No fingerprints were developed from this item. The large knife had Rebeccas fingerprints, and only Rebeccas fingerprints. A low level of DNA material was found on this knife as well, but it was not enough for any comparison.
Were there prints and DNA on the rope?
Rebeccas DNA was found on the rope, particularly in areas that would have to be manipulated to tie the knots. Only Rebeccas DNA was found on these items other than one artifact, which is a fragment of material that could be DNA, but does not contain enough information to determine who, or what, it came from (animals and plants also have DNA that can be left behind). The rope could not be fingerprinted.
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/faq.html
That's right, something was terribly wrong. If a child had suffered massive injury and went into cardiac arrest while in my care and police had called me five times, I would be terribly stressed and upset. I would also feel guilt even though I knew I did nothing wrong. That's just me. Each juror has their own life experiences to influence their opinion as to whether they find a witness credible.
The phone was properly processed. The fact that the message was deleted wasn't under the control of the SDSO but that also doesn't change the fact that the phone call was made and it lasted 2 minutes.
