AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #4

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Hey Everyone,

Please join me in welcoming Websleuths member cedgison as our new verified insider in Danniella's case.

I spoke with Julie Thomas, Danniella's mother-in-law, who said how much cedgison has helped her in this trying time.

Cedgison does not need to post links to the information she posts. It is up to you to decide if you believe it or not.

If you do not believe what a verified member on Websleuths says we ask you scroll by and do not argue.

You are allowed to ask cedgison questions however, you must do so in a way that does not violate TOS.

Really the main thing you need to remember on Websleuths is Don't Be A Jerk.

When speaking with Julie Thomas she gave me information to pass along.

Last Friday her brother, Danniella's uncle, was taken out of his house in handcuffs along with his son. The police threw in flash bombs and tore up the house looking for evidence connected to Danniella. They did this show of force based on a tip. The police told Julie that as soon as her brother was cleared he could move back in. Julie's brother has moved back in so he is no longer a suspect.
So please do not discuss him as a suspect.

His son is still in jail but nothing to do with Danniella's disappearance. I don't believe he is a suspect either but you all would no better than me.

Let's hope and pray Danniella comes home safe today!

Take Care,
Tricia
 
Sorry I haven't been on in several days.

For all the new people joining the case, I really recommend reading through thread #1 as a lot of points have been covered already and it would be really helpful for the VIs if we could focus on the following:

1. The lojack disablement
2. Who benefits from disappearing Danni
3. The Carjacking angle (ie where could a car be concealed/resold/parted etc)
4. Where Danni could have possibly gone off the road with her car

The chances of Danni having left voluntarily are next to nil IMO. Why would she leave money behind?

Following is an update to my original post in thread one on page 5 to help clarify some of the info for those asking:

Players named in media:
Danniella/Danni - missing
<modsnipped full name> (TT)- ex-boyfriend and father to their 4-y/o daughter, ex-U.S.Army
<modsnipped full name> (JDT) - mother of TT, current custodian of daughter (Mobile)
--collectively being referred to as "party train"--
DW - last to see Danni
MK - female friend with Danni at Dublin's
RC - male friend with Danni at Dublin's


Timeline:
July17 - Purchased car at Pearl Motors Inc at ?
July17 - Arrived at Dublin Pub at ?
July17 - 10:45pm - Left Dublin pub, reportedly headed to Ollie's
July17 - Approx 11:00 - Is reportedly following DW (riving his rental)south on 90 when she flashes her lights to pull over (this is in the opposite direction of Ollie's)
July17 - 11:05PM - Both cars on video at Shell Station
July17 - around 11PM last GPS location and activity on phone at Shell Station, after this there is no further activity. GPS is disabled.
July17 -11:07PM - One car leaves
July17 - 11:08PM - Another car pulls in both cars stay parked
July17 - 11:24PM - Both cars leave
July17 - Approx 11:45pm DW returns to Dublin's to retrieve Danni's phone
July 18 Approx 12am Arrives at Ollie's and stays for a few minutes
July 18 1:00 am DW Returns rental car
July20 - Reported missing by JT and DW together in person
July 20 - Police search Danni's apartment
July25 - Confirmed Case given to Mobile Homicide by media
July27 - Vigil held at 7:30PM Cottage Hill / Medal of Honor Park (organized by Julie)
Aug 2 - PD holds press conference


Facts as we know them:
1. DW was the last person known to see Danni
2. DW's story is inconsistent and has changed
3. DW had a rental car that night <modsnipped no link to verify>
4. LE has Danni's phone, which was found at Dublin's
5. Danni's apartment was searched
6. Danni's car was newly purchased with paper tags (no plates)
7. MK and RC are silent since
8. Danni's daughter is fine and with JDT
9.There was a LoJack tracking device on Danni's car that was tracked to the shell station. References to a GPS ping refer to the LoJack device on her car NOT, her phone. The last ping was at the Shell.
10. Danni's phone is confirmed to have been retrieved from Dublin's by DW and is now in LE possession.
11. LE have CCTV of the gas station showing Danni together with DW and Danni with another car
12. TT was in rehab the night Danni disappeared.
13. LE state they have no evidence of homicide, however the case is being handled by homicide.
14. A large amount of cash was found in Danni's apartment along with a recent list of life goals.
15. Danni does not have a history of drug abuse, and was successfully employed at the time of her disappearance.

You may also follow @cedgison for other quotes and facts. She is a Verified Insider on this case, and is in contact with JDT and what she knows or need help with.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/members/cedgison.211392/



Questions:

Did family/friends enter Danni's apartment before or after LE?
How did they gain entry?
Has the family been given a copy of the CCTV video? If not, contact NBC15 ask them for it.
Was a BOLO put out for the car?
 
The last thread is a mess and needs to be cleaned up when moderators have time. Looks like some guidelines are in order.

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Bringing Tricia's post over from another thread:

You must treat all verified members on Websleuths with respect. If you don't believe them please scroll past. It is not OK for you to call out a verified member and challenge them as to whether or not they are telling the truth. This includes anything passive aggressive or posting in a way where you tapdance around what you really mean but we can all tell you are questioning the truthfulness of the verified member.

Verified members do not have to answer all questions and they do not have to provide links. It is not OK to hound them to answer a question.
 
What are DWs thoughts on why he didn’t go back to check on DV when she didn’t show back up looking for her phone? He should know the shell area is known for drugs if he was from there. He knew she didn’t have her phone. But yet he nonchalantly walk back into Ollie’s, stays for a bit and goes to return his rental car without stopping by shell first? Hmm.
 
What are DWs thoughts on why he didn’t go back to check on DV when she didn’t show back up looking for her phone? He should know the shell area is known for drugs if he was from there. He knew she didn’t have her phone. But yet he nonchalantly walk back into Ollie’s, stays for a bit and goes to return his rental car without stopping by shell first? Hmm.


I'm stuck between "knew something happened" and "thought she blew him off "
 
How long does it take to get from Ollie’s to the car rental place?
We don't know which car rental company or car rental location. Early guess was airport due to key drop location. Given car theft in Mobile the assumption was that not all locations would even offer key drop off in a secure location other than the airport. There are no 24/7 open car rental locations in Mobile that I saw when I searched this topic weeks ago.
 
We don't know which car rental company or car rental location. Early guess was airport due to key drop location. Given car theft in Mobile the assumption was that not all locations would even offer key drop off in a secure location other than the airport. There are no 24/7 open car rental locations in Mobile that I saw when I searched this topic weeks ago.
Here is a google map of car rental locations near the Shell station: Hertz and Enterprise. I assumed that DW might have originally been going to return his rental car when he left Dublin's. Each location has its own drop off policy and not all locations offer after hours drop offs.

Google Maps
 
Bringing this article over to the thread for those that haven't read earlier articles about JCD and MPD new blog for DNV case and earlier Press Conference, and DVN Goals Picture.

Victim says Theodore man imprisoned her for weeks - Lagniappe Mobile

Man arrested after Vian search pleads not guilty to domestic violence charges

Police increase reward, create blog to help find Danniella Vian

Note: This video was originally about 30 min but was cut significantly

Picture shows Danniella Vian's
 
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One of the many baffling things about this case has been lack of specific information from MPD. Here is an example (of many found since this case started BTW) where video was posted to the public and information shared and presto we have an arrest! This was an ongoing robbery investigation that I originally found interesting as the event happened on Government Blvd. on September 21. Mobile Police make arrest after series of burglaries on Government Blvd.
 
I apologize for not checking in yet today. I had a company meeting this morning and, within an hour of that ending, found out that my hudband’s step dad’s mother passed away this morning. I will check in & catch up/answer questions as soon as I can.
 
What are DWs thoughts on why he didn’t go back to check on DV when she didn’t show back up looking for her phone? He should know the shell area is known for drugs if he was from there. He knew she didn’t have her phone. But yet he nonchalantly walk back into Ollie’s, stays for a bit and goes to return his rental car without stopping by shell first? Hmm.
And his story was that he was going home, saw her flashing lights and stopped and didn’t feel good about this young woman being out late at night with no phone so he agreed to go back to Ollie’s and look for it. Then... he drives off, she doesn’t show and he doesn’t backtrack to ensure she is okay? Goes on about his business, to Ollie’s and then returns his rental car and goes home? Something rotten in Denmark...
 
And his story was that he was going home, saw her flashing lights and stopped and didn’t feel good about this young woman being out late at night with no phone so he agreed to go back to Ollie’s and look for it. Then... he drives off, she doesn’t show and he doesn’t backtrack to ensure she is okay? Goes on about his business, to Ollie’s and then returns his rental car and goes home? Something rotten in Denmark...

I agree, I understand that maybe some fudging on the truth to cover his behind, but something about the phone story is off. I feel like the flashing of the lights was a signal to turn off, but only to limit a paper trail if that makes sense.
 
And his story was that he was going home, saw her flashing lights and stopped and didn’t feel good about this young woman being out late at night with no phone so he agreed to go back to Ollie’s and look for it. Then... he drives off, she doesn’t show and he doesn’t backtrack to ensure she is okay? Goes on about his business, to Ollie’s and then returns his rental car and goes home? Something rotten in Denmark...

I think we have to all remember that this story was not released by LE. We have no evidence that DW ever spoke to the media. All the MSM stories, including the early live videos, say "The family reports..." "The family says that the friend said..."

DW may have told this to JDT in confidence, not expecting her to post it on social media and start discussion groups to pick it apart. He may have seriously watered down or papered over things that he did not feel comfortable disclosing to a missing woman's ex's mother. He may have told LE a completely different story and we're here analyzing a game of telephone.

Another thought: DW may know very well that DNV was meeting up with unsavory characters and he realizes if they knew he was Car 1 and he was talking to LE, his own life could be in danger. There may be a very good reason LE and MSM have never released his name, and the media has not interviewed him (or complained about not being able to interview him). Constantly posting on social media that witnesses should "come forward" like they owe the peanut gallery an explanation for anything is excruciating to watch.
 
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