GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #62

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It's not even that they released that one pic (and I'm not sure what else is in these latest releases). I'm more bothered by this line from the initial document drop seemed so so unnecessary and weird to me "This progressed to searches at "Pornhub" for interracialporn videos and "threesomes with double penetration." [43 - web History: 2942] This was by no means the only time she souqht out pornogrophic videos via the internet" Literally wtf does that have to do with anything to do with murder. Sounds like she likes *advertiser censored*. Ok. Sorry to be crude but she wasn't searching "hot dilf annihilates family" or something.

And I'm not sure the causes of the release, but I did see some people in some places (not necessarily here) commend this as investigators chance to see she didn't get off entirely without some sort of "punishment."

Her *advertiser censored* searches link back to CW and his activities outside his marriage , motive.
I’ve got to stop this, and sit back and wait for more evidence to come out. It’s seems that I’m repeating myself, and it’s taking too much time and space on here at WS. The quote I previously supplied, further up, from the Discovery documents, states NK contacted LE. As for the delay in contacting LE, NK said she thought at first, SW took off because she was upset with CW, but after watching the porch interviews, listening to CW’s words and watching his demeanor, and then learning about Nico, NK realized CW was lying. That seems plausible to me. Not you. Let’s leave it at that.
I agree, that sounds very plausible and very understandable. Once she realized Chris had been lying to her, LE was involved, there was more going on, she had a choice to bring any and all information to LE and she made a choice to scrub all of it, not just the private pictures, but everything, that is where my questioning of her choices comes into play. I have no idea who contacted who first, but I do know if I were caught up in something like this I would rather be known as someone who fully cooperated. She was deceptive in the interviews it seems to protect her image, not to hide any knowledge or involvement but her personal concerns do not supersede a homicide investigation. She continued with the same choices of not being 100% forthcoming because it benefited her instead of making choices that benefited helping the investigation.
 
For LE. But does the public need to see it?

I have zero respect for her. But she is not on trial.

Yes, CW could have sent those pics to anyone.

But I expect more from the govt re privacy when there is no reason to include the public in the voyeurism .

It's part of discovery which is now public record. The public has a right to see public records in CO unless there's a compelling reason to seal. "Witness feels embarrassed." is not compelling.
 
Lol. I use “like” so I can tell where I left off reading except when sometimes the” like” does not work.

No. It's pretty obvious when it's obvious. It's almost like gaslighting. It's not random likes. It is likes that fit a noticeable pattern. After awhile it's discernible. Made an impression on me and usually I don't notice any of that.
 
I believe NK when she said she didn't know about SW being pregnant. Even CW (I know he's a liar but I believe him on this) says she didn't know. Why would they both conspire to lie about that?

Discovery page 609
"CHRIS said KESSINGER didn’t know his wife was pregnant, but she does now. CHRIS said he was scared to tell KESSINGER about the pregnancy because he felt like KESSINGER wouldn’t have gone on a date with him if she knew. CHRIS said KESSINGER knew he was married with kids."
 
The moment people become transparent, they might get scared. I'd rather guess that the person might be an insider and listen to their side of the story, than silence them by forcing them to reveal themselves.

But - there probably is no single truth.
My own opinion changes, for example. I can see it. I am trying to be fair to everyone.

Respectfully :)
They don’t have to reveal to the board how they are a VI, who they know, their privacy is protected.
 
I think she just said the opposite. She would like to know MORE about what was said during the interviews.
Well, how about this...?

Just after the 3-minute mark NK says she didn't know Shanann's name:
Nichol Kessinger Aug. 16 interview with investigators

However, from NK's phone data (what was retrievable):

1/7/2018 – searched items “shanann watts” Pg 1601 (Discovery pg 1783)

9/1/2017 - searched the internet for the name "Shanann Watts" Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082)
 
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This has been the craziest thread, that I have seen in all the years I have been a member. I took a long break. So I'm sure I could have missed one. I have never seen a case where the victim was bashed. Then when everyone decides the victim is a victim, the mistress shouldn't be talked about because she is a victim. Then she turns out to not be a victim. Crazy hateful parents and a sibling saying horrible things about one of the victims. The Killer looking like the good guy...blah, blah, blah. It never ends. I'm not sure if this case is crazy because, well the killer and his family and mistress seem to be, or if this is a new behavior for society.

Perhaps a new behavior.

Maybe from the same realm as people who believe in conspiracies? I see more and more of it - visibly educated people repeat some unsupported facts, and if you doubt their opinion, advise you to "educate yourself".

Nothing else would explain how reasonable, educated adults would believe that story of CW.

I recently read an article about people today struggling to discriminate between facts and opinions.

Perhaps the same happened here?
 
We are talking about the same video. What we were referencing was the video of what happened immediately before that. There is no video that I've see that shows the officers saying "you're under arrest". Again, if you have a video showing that, I'd love to see it. Please post the link, thanks!
I am not looking for it sorry, I'd have no idea where to find it.
 
There are people who need defending; Shanann, and her three (3) children, who were brutally murdered by the man they loved and trusted. The Rzuceks, who lost their beloved daughter and grandchildren, but who have behaved, always, with courage and dignity. And NUA, whose courage and determination brought the horrible crime to a quick end.

NK needs no defense! And deserves none. She lied. She misled. She delayed the investigation. She is an adult who made poor decisions. She was motivated by her own needs and desires and cooperated only out of a sense of self-preservation. I feel sure there are things that haven't come out yet.
 
Well, how about this...?

Just after the 3-minute mark NK says she didn't know Shanann's name:
Nichol Kessinger Aug. 16 interview with investigators

However, from NK's phone data (what was retrievable):

8/3/2017 – searched items “chris watts” Pg 1601 (Discovery pg 1783)

9/1/2017 - searched the internet for the name "Shanann Watts" Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082)
Yeah. That’s absolutely impossible that she didn’t know Shanann’s name.

Obviously her search history proves that she knew it, and there’s no way that CW didn’t bring it up all the time.

Especially if he was talking about the state of his marriage and divorce.
 
I’m 53 and I was a clueless, immature, selfish moron at 30. Still slightly f’ed up but making progress & doing more good than harm everyday. Glad I’m not being judged by my worse actions 20 years ago.

Every decade or so I look back and ask myself..."what the h*ll were you thinking???"

Life does that.

BUT, in a million years, no matter what age, I would never have remotely considered anything less that complete transparency with the law. Especially in a situation of this magnitude!

Even as a dumb *advertiser censored**, I knew better.
 
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I believe NK when she said she didn't know about SW being pregnant. Even CW (I know he's a liar but I believe him on this) says she didn't know. Why would they both conspire to lie about that?

Discovery page 609
"CHRIS said KESSINGER didn’t know his wife was pregnant, but she does now. CHRIS said he was scared to tell KESSINGER about the pregnancy because he felt like KESSINGER wouldn’t have gone on a date with him if she knew. CHRIS said KESSINGER knew he was married with kids."
She googled their FB pages Aug 4th. I think she knew but Chris did not know that. However, NK does not seem like the type to sit on that info unless she was hoping he would still leave Shanann and did not want to create an issue. IDK
 
How could you possibly know this?

Only she could know what was going on in her head.

And she was clearly reluctant to give the name of her alibi witness, the mysterious Jim.

Exactly. How on earth can any of us know what was going on in NKs head? A brain freeze? Well unless someone knows her well enough to have discussed it with NK? This is just getting too strange. I’m off to bed :)
 
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