CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #17 *ARREST*

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Charlot123 said:
Honestly, I think that they simply wanted to support their daughter and granddaughter the best way they could. They helped her settle down, so that she could grow up professionally and find happiness. Like any good parents would. I see absolutely nothing in it except for the desire to help their daughter.

I think you are thinking if they own a business of some type. Irregardless, a loss of a daughter's life does not have anything to do with a write-off.
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MsBetsy said:
Isn't that something the lawyers request to prevent public condemnation in order to ensure a fair trial? I didn't think it had anything to do with LE.
I also don't think they misled the public. They said he was cooperating but made it clear they wanted to ask him specific questions that remained unanswered. He had a lawyer, so there was not much more they could do.
Compared to some other cases, I thought the arrest came pretty quickly. Imo
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Reasonable minds can differ wether the police were a bit shady with misinformation about PF's cooperation level. As for who asked for the gag order I read a news report that said the District Attorney asked for the gag order. Thats why my suspicions became aroused.
 
Celt1997 said:
Do we even know what "right" would be? I checked out of this case for a bit, but I thought early on it was said that the child spent more time with PF's family and may have more familiarity with them?
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We don't know for sure who she spent more time with. We can only speculate. For all we know PF was only an occasional daycare provider while KB worked. He had the more flexible job and he had family in town that could have helped take care of baby K. But for all we know, baby K may have been with KB every moment KB wasn't at work. We just have not been told their arrangements yet. JMO.
 
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The Farm said:
I am wondering the same thing seeing as he is jailed on 1st degree murder.

PrairieWind can you weigh in on a legal idea?
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He is the father so he of course gets a say. He would tell the judge what his wishes are. The court will do what it thinks is in the best interest of the child. That is pretty fast for a hearing which makes me believe that everyone was in agreement.
As for him appearing in person vs video, I am not that surprised. I believe he appeared via video for his initial appearance. But a custody hearing is far more important and I am sure the Judge wanted him there in person. In a small county its not a logistical or security problem to walk a prisoner over to court.
 
AmatuerDetective said:
Reasonable minds can differ wether the police were a bit shady with misinformation about PF's cooperation level. As for who asked for the gag order I read a news report that said the District Attorney asked for the gag order. Thats why my suspicions became aroused.
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The defense filed a motion asking for a gag order.

The prosecution filed a response opposing a gag order.
 
AmatuerDetective said:
Reasonable minds can differ wether the police were a bit shady with misinformation about PF's cooperation level. As for who asked for the gag order I read a news report that said the District Attorney asked for the gag order. Thats why my suspicions became aroused.
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PF asked for the gag order.

From the motion:
"Patrick Frazee, by and through counsel, moves this Court to enter an Order limiting the dissemination of information by the attorneys, their agents, employees and all law enforcement investigators, personnel and employees, and all court personnel concerning this case." continued at this link: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/Motion To Limit Pretrial.pdf
 
Court hearing for custody of Kelsey Berreth's 1-year-old daughter in session
Update: After having a hearing Thursday for temporary custody of Patrick Frazee and Kelsey Berreth's only one-year-old daughter, Kaylee, we are learning more about the case.

While KRDO crews are waiting to hear the outcome of the ruling from the judge, we captured police escorting Frazee to a police vehicle.
 
PrairieWind said:
He is the father so he of course gets a say. He would tell the judge what his wishes are. The court will do what it thinks is in the best interest of the child. That is pretty fast for a hearing which makes me believe that everyone was in agreement.
As for him appearing in person vs video, I am not that surprised. I believe he appeared via video for his initial appearance. But a custody hearing is far more important and I am sure the Judge wanted him there in person. In a small county its not a logistical or security problem to walk a prisoner over to court.
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So even in jail with pending 1st degree murder charges he gets a say and the court makes the decision?
Thanks I did not have an idea how that would work.

Also the courthouse is not walking distance, the jail is in Divide and the courthouse in is Cripple Creek so he was transported.
 
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