CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #17 *ARREST*

[Gardener1850]

Well, he doesn't want any pre-trial publicity donchaknow? I hope he's pissed off because CB obtained temporary custody though!
MOO

Me too! I hope we find out that small bit of good news that CB has baby K now.

 

[cluciano63]

What happened to Kelsey during that time? If Kelsey wasn't safe how safe can the baby be?

He is not convicted of anything.

 

[PrairieWind]

Familiarity would not matter, if it is true that PF killed her mother. It would be horrible and tragic for her to be raised in that home. The same home in which her father plotted and schemed the murder.

Her entire life, she would be surrounded by people who sided with and sympathized with the killer and she and her feelings would be marginalized. It would be devastating for KB's family as well. JMO

In general, familiarity is a critical consideration. Court's wont typically put a child in an unfamiliar setting, but rather do a gradual introduction. This is a little different situation of course.

 

[PommyMommy]

Patrick Frazee appears for custody hearing in Teller County
Both Patrick Frazee and Cheryl Berreth, the mother of Kelsey Berreth, appeared in court Wednesday afternoon for a custody hearing regarding Frazee’s 1-year-old daughter.

KOAA will continue to investigate and will have the full report tonight at 5:00 pm.

 

[MsBetsy]

What happened to Kelsey during that time? If Kelsey wasn't safe how safe can the baby be?

I'm wondering if his mom is even asking for custody of the child. If she is alone now, she may not feel she is able to meet the needs of a toddler. Imo

 

[SandyQLS]

That and he needs to wash his hair.

Unshaved, too. Seems intentional on the part of corrections to make him look as bad as possible and then parade him around. JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Video - Berreth family outside the courtroom
Daniela Leon on Twitter
The Berreth family just left the courtroom. Just a couple of minutes ago they were in the same room as Patrick Frazee. Inside the courtroom was Frazee’s mom as well.

 

[Gardener1850]

I would think she would have to be present if she is asking for custody. Imo

Maybe PF's mom didn't ask for custody? That would make it a quick process if only KB's family showed up. MOO.

 

[heartgoesout]

Court hearing for custody of Kelsey Berreth's 1-year-old daughter in session

 

[SandyQLS]

Is she? Then it's between the Bs and the Fs? Where is the baby now?

My head feels like a disco ball

King Solomon would offer to cut the baby in half.

 

[AmatuerDetective]

Thank you.

PF asked for the gag order.

From the motion:
"Patrick Frazee, by and through counsel, moves this Court to enter an Order limiting the dissemination of information by the attorneys, their agents, employees and all law enforcement investigators, personnel and employees, and all court personnel concerning this case." continued at this link: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/Motion To Limit Pretrial.pdf

Thank You. Makes sense now.

 

[sun16]

I feel like PF looks different each time I see him.

 

[bestill]

Judge may have not ruled today, imo.

 

[katydid23]

In general, familiarity is a critical consideration. Court's wont typically put a child in an unfamiliar setting, but rather do a gradual introduction. This is a little different situation of course.

Right, But there are recent pictures of the baby with KB's mother, smiling. So she did know her maternal grandmother. And they cannot really ignore the current murder charges, in making their decision. JMO

 

[InvSmith]

Local news has only KB's Mom present.

 

[katydid23]

Unshaved, too. Seems intentional on the part of corrections to make him look as bad as possible and then parade him around. JMO

He could have showered and washed if he had wanted to. JMO

 

[Jazzy5980]

Are you sure about that? These documents were described as government motions. Definetly makes more sense if its PF's attorney.

Positive
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...ant's Motion to Limit Pre-Trial Publicity.pdf

 

[susiQ]

He looks great!

Except for the fact he looks terrible.

You just hate to see that.

I just love the sarcasm. In fact, if it weren't for sarcasm there would be nothing to to laugh about here

 

[Marli61]

Is she? Then it's between the Bs and the Fs? Where is the baby now?

My head feels like a disco ball

Imo if K is with the Berreths already that is a good sign that she would stay there. If she is in foster care the Bs may have petitioned the court to have her placed with them until the charges against PF get sorted out. Mama F could have petitioned also. We don't know. If this goes to trial & PF goes to prison it wouldn't surprise me if KB's family petitions the court to terminate his parental rights. A lot will be contingent on what happens with PF I imagine. All MOO

 

[SandyQLS]

Are you sure about that? These documents were described as government motions. Definetly makes more sense if its PF's attorney.

Colorado Judicial Branch

The DA doesn't need the gag order because they are keeping everything sealed, likely for 30 days. In the meantime, the DA can claim they are not trying the case in the media, while they try the case in the media. The arrestee PF and his attorney have not seen any of the evidence and won't until at least the Dec 31 arraignment. He was arrested Dec. 21.