Mrs. Badcrumble
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Now, this is an odd one. I couldn't find a thread on this former HotCase, so here we go:
Unidentified Person Case
Female, Uncertain
Date Found: January 1, 1986
Location Found: California
Estimated Age Range: 13-17 Years
Circumstances of Recovery: These skeletal remains were reportedly dug up from a grave in the desert near Whitewater (Riverside County) by a chiropractor some time in 1986. The remains were finally delivered to the San Bernardino County Coroner in November 1999. Examination confirmed that the remains had been buried for years, but no other part of the story can be confirmed. Identity can only be established by dental or head X-rays. Thus far DNA profile cannot be developed.
Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains: All parts recovered
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Physical Description
Hair Color: Unknown or Completely Bald
Head Hair Description: Unkown or Completely Bald
Body Hair Description: --
Facial Hair Description: --
Left Eye Color: Unknown or Missing
Right Eye Color: Unknown or Missing
Eye Description: Unknown
Distinctive Physical Features
No Known Information
Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered
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1467UFCA
Date of Discovery: January 1, 1986
Location of Discovery: Whitewater, Riverside County, California
Estimated Date of Death: At least 10 years prior, possibly longer.
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown
Physical Description
Estimated Age: 13-17 years old
Race: Unknown
Sex: Female
Height: 4'10" to 5'2"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Described as small and gracile. There was a fracture of the right proximal femur which appears to be parimortem.
Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Tooth 23 glued in backward; tooth 22 fractured postmortem. Most of her teeth were missing postmortem. Virgin teeth 18 and 19 remain.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Not available. A DNA profile cannot be developed at this time.
Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown
Circumstances of Discovery
The remains were reportedly discovered by a chiropractor at some point during 1986 near Whitewater, Riverside County, California after being dug up from a grave in the desert. In November 1999, the remains were eventually turned over to the San Bernardino County Coroner.
She was at the location for at least five years.
Identification can only be made with dental or head X-Rays.
Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: San Bernardino County Sheriff Department - Coroner Division
Agency Contact Person: September Fonzi-Jones
Agency Phone Number: 909-387-2978
Agency E-Mail: coroner(at)sbcsd.org
Agency Case Number: 99-6775
NCIC Case Number: U790000844
NamUs Case Number: 2599
Former Hot Case Number: 1534
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So, the chiropractor kept the remains until 1999, is this how this is to be understood? And then there's the discrepancy of the estimated time of death in the DoeNetwork link (I highlighted the text in red); NamUs only states that "the remains had been buried for years". I was wondering, were the remains thought to be ancient/historic when discovered?
Unidentified Person Case
Female, Uncertain
Date Found: January 1, 1986
Location Found: California
Estimated Age Range: 13-17 Years
Circumstances of Recovery: These skeletal remains were reportedly dug up from a grave in the desert near Whitewater (Riverside County) by a chiropractor some time in 1986. The remains were finally delivered to the San Bernardino County Coroner in November 1999. Examination confirmed that the remains had been buried for years, but no other part of the story can be confirmed. Identity can only be established by dental or head X-rays. Thus far DNA profile cannot be developed.
Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains: All parts recovered
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Physical Description
Hair Color: Unknown or Completely Bald
Head Hair Description: Unkown or Completely Bald
Body Hair Description: --
Facial Hair Description: --
Left Eye Color: Unknown or Missing
Right Eye Color: Unknown or Missing
Eye Description: Unknown
Distinctive Physical Features
No Known Information
Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered
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1467UFCA
Date of Discovery: January 1, 1986
Location of Discovery: Whitewater, Riverside County, California
Estimated Date of Death: At least 10 years prior, possibly longer.
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown
Physical Description
Estimated Age: 13-17 years old
Race: Unknown
Sex: Female
Height: 4'10" to 5'2"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Described as small and gracile. There was a fracture of the right proximal femur which appears to be parimortem.
Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Tooth 23 glued in backward; tooth 22 fractured postmortem. Most of her teeth were missing postmortem. Virgin teeth 18 and 19 remain.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Not available. A DNA profile cannot be developed at this time.
Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown
Circumstances of Discovery
The remains were reportedly discovered by a chiropractor at some point during 1986 near Whitewater, Riverside County, California after being dug up from a grave in the desert. In November 1999, the remains were eventually turned over to the San Bernardino County Coroner.
She was at the location for at least five years.
Identification can only be made with dental or head X-Rays.
Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: San Bernardino County Sheriff Department - Coroner Division
Agency Contact Person: September Fonzi-Jones
Agency Phone Number: 909-387-2978
Agency E-Mail: coroner(at)sbcsd.org
Agency Case Number: 99-6775
NCIC Case Number: U790000844
NamUs Case Number: 2599
Former Hot Case Number: 1534
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So, the chiropractor kept the remains until 1999, is this how this is to be understood? And then there's the discrepancy of the estimated time of death in the DoeNetwork link (I highlighted the text in red); NamUs only states that "the remains had been buried for years". I was wondering, were the remains thought to be ancient/historic when discovered?
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