Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #2

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I have looked at dozens of maps and read almost every article in this case and have come to two conclusions that I think are plausible.

1.) Natalee was drugged and raped by Joran and then killed. Her body was taken off the island and taken to South America or Venezuela and buried there.

2.) Natalees case is possibly tied to sex trafficking and her case is linked to the disappearances of Amy Lynn Bradley, Robyn Lynn Gardner, and Amanda Waller. If this theory is true than it’s possible that Natalee and all these women are still alive.
 
I have looked at dozens of maps and read almost every article in this case and have come to two conclusions that I think are plausible.

1.) Natalee was drugged and raped by Joran and then killed. Her body was taken off the island and taken to South America or Venezuela and buried there.

2.) Natalees case is possibly tied to sex trafficking and her case is linked to the disappearances of Amy Lynn Bradley, Robyn Lynn Gardner, and Amanda Waller. If this theory is true than it’s possible that Natalee and all these women are still alive.

Two women that we are aware of were murdered by Joran. The second one was murdered because he lost his temper. He elbowed her and then beat her to death. I'm inclined to think the same thing happened to Natalie. Joran and Natalie were on the beach talking. Early on he said that he didn't like something she said about nazis, and maybe that is what caused him to lose his temper. He then found a way to put her in the water such that she did not drift back to shore.
 
Two women that we are aware of were murdered by Joran. The second one was murdered because he lost his temper. He elbowed her and then beat her to death. I'm inclined to think the same thing happened to Natalie. Joran and Natalie were on the beach talking. Early on he said that he didn't like something she said about nazis, and maybe that is what caused him to lose his temper. He then found a way to put her in the water such that she did not drift back to shore.
I don’t know. We can rule out burial. I’ve been too Aruba 7 times in my life and the duet there is rock hard. Some places can be dug in. I suspect Joran had the help from his father.
 
As far as I know Natalee has dentals Available but I’m unsure of DNA.
 
Natalee Ann Holloway

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Name: Natalee Ann Holloway

Case Classification: Involuntary

Missing Since: May 30th 2005

Location Last Seen: Oranjestad, Aruba


Physical Description:

Date of Birth: October 21 1986

Age: 18 years old

Race: White

Gender: Female

Height: 5'4”

Weight: 110 lbs.

Hair Color: blonde Past shoulders

Eye Color: Blue

Distinguishing Marks: Natalee has a scar on her shoulder blade and a large brown freckle on her right arm


Identifiers:

Dentals: Available

Fingerprints: Unknown

DNA: Available


Clothing & Personal Items

Clothing: Green Party shirt and blue jean skirt

Jewelry: Unknown

Additional Personal Items: Unknown


Circumstances of Disappearance

Natalee was last seen in the early morning hours of May 30th 2005 in Oranjestad, Aruba. She lived in Birmingham, Alabama at the time but was on a graduation trip to the Caribbean island of Aruba. Natalee was with 124 other students and several chaperones at the time and was scheduled to leave at 11 am on May 30th 2005. Holloway was last seen getting into a car with three local Aruban teens. She was never seen or heard from again. The three men who picked natalee up were quickly identified as Joran van der sloot and two brother named deepak and satish kalpoe. The boys were questioned and during this Aruban police and FBI as well as the America FBI and agents lead a recovery/ rescue operation for Holloway. They did air searches ground searches and divers searched the ocean floor for Holloway’s body but the water search proved fruitless. The boys car was tested and police thought they had found human blood but it turned out not to be blood. In the summer of 2005 the three boys were arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and killing Holloway on the night of her disappearance, however the boys were soon released due to lack of evidence. Soon after the release police drained 2 ponds and searched a bird sanctuary for Holloway’s remains but they did not find her body in the ponds and they were not able to fully search the bird sanctuary because it was a protected area. The search ended and the case was closed in 2007 with no charges filed. The case was reopened in 2008 after a confession was made by joran van der sloot. He confessed that he went with Holloway to the beach and that Holloway presumably died from a seizure, he called his friend who he claimed took Holloway’s body out to sea and threw her overboard, joran claimed she may have still been alive when being dumped. Police searched crab traps after a tip came in that joran dumped Holloway’s body inside of a crab trap and in December of 2008 police used sonar technology and found what appeared to be a human skull but it turned out not to be. In 2010 a human mandible was found washed up on a beach and many people speculated that the jawbone may have been Holloway’s but dental records ruled her out. The jawbone was also tested against Amy Lynn Bradley who vanished from a cruise ship heading from Aruba to Curacao but testing also proved she was not a match. Holloway’s case is often linked to Amy Lynn Bradley because they both vanished in the same region but there is not enough evidence to connect them. Joran van der sloot is the prime suspect in natalee’s case. Almost the entire world and police believe joran drugged Natalee and killed her. In 2017 an informant came forward and claimed to have known the man who helped Joran van der sloot dispose of Natalee’s body in 2010. He claimed that natalee was buried in a cul-de-sac filled with caucus after she died from an overdose of date rape drugs. According to him they dug up her skeletal remains, took them to a property owned by the accomplice, John ludwick, crushed her remains, and burned her cranium. They then said her remains were either buried in another location or dumped at sea. Human bone fragments were given to police by John ludwick but the remains were ruled out as being natalee after a DNA test. Joran vander sloot is currently serving a 28 years sentence for murdering Stephanie Flores who lived in Lima, Peru. He killed her on May 30th 2010, exactly 5 years to the day that Holloway disappeared. John ludwick was killed by his ex girlfriend in self defense in March of 2018 after he attempted to kidnap her. Natalee was described as a king young woman who was very talented and loved by all, she was getting ready to go to college that September but she was never able to achieve her dreams in adult hood. Her body has never been found but she is a presumed homicide victim.


Investigating Agency(s)

Agency Name: Aruba police

Agency Contact Person: N/A

Agency Phone Number: 297-587-6222

Agency E-Mail: N/A

Agency Case Number:

NCIC Case Number: Unknown

NCMEC Case Number: not listed

NamUs Case Number: not listed

Information Source(s)

Visit Aruba
 
Natalee Ann Holloway

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Name: Natalee Ann Holloway

Case Classification: Involuntary

Missing Since: May 30th 2005

Location Last Seen: Oranjestad, Aruba


Physical Description:

Date of Birth: October 21 1986

Age: 18 years old

Race: White

Gender: Female

Height: 5'4”

Weight: 110 lbs.

Hair Color: blonde Past shoulders

Eye Color: Blue

Distinguishing Marks: Natalee has a scar on her shoulder blade and a large brown freckle on her right arm


Identifiers:

Dentals: Available

Fingerprints: Unknown

DNA: Available


Clothing & Personal Items

Clothing: Green Party shirt and blue jean skirt

Jewelry: Unknown

Additional Personal Items: Unknown


Circumstances of Disappearance

Natalee was last seen in the early morning hours of May 30th 2005 in Oranjestad, Aruba. She lived in Birmingham, Alabama at the time but was on a graduation trip to the Caribbean island of Aruba. Natalee was with 124 other students and several chaperones at the time and was scheduled to leave at 11 am on May 30th 2005. Holloway was last seen getting into a car with three local Aruban teens. She was never seen or heard from again. The three men who picked natalee up were quickly identified as Joran van der sloot and two brother named deepak and satish kalpoe. The boys were questioned and during this Aruban police and FBI as well as the America FBI and agents lead a recovery/ rescue operation for Holloway. They did air searches ground searches and divers searched the ocean floor for Holloway’s body but the water search proved fruitless. The boys car was tested and police thought they had found human blood but it turned out not to be blood. In the summer of 2005 the three boys were arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and killing Holloway on the night of her disappearance, however the boys were soon released due to lack of evidence. Soon after the release police drained 2 ponds and searched a bird sanctuary for Holloway’s remains but they did not find her body in the ponds and they were not able to fully search the bird sanctuary because it was a protected area. The search ended and the case was closed in 2007 with no charges filed. The case was reopened in 2008 after a confession was made by joran van der sloot. He confessed that he went with Holloway to the beach and that Holloway presumably died from a seizure, he called his friend who he claimed took Holloway’s body out to sea and threw her overboard, joran claimed she may have still been alive when being dumped. Police searched crab traps after a tip came in that joran dumped Holloway’s body inside of a crab trap and in December of 2008 police used sonar technology and found what appeared to be a human skull but it turned out not to be. In 2010 a human mandible was found washed up on a beach and many people speculated that the jawbone may have been Holloway’s but dental records ruled her out. The jawbone was also tested against Amy Lynn Bradley who vanished from a cruise ship heading from Aruba to Curacao but testing also proved she was not a match. Holloway’s case is often linked to Amy Lynn Bradley because they both vanished in the same region but there is not enough evidence to connect them. Joran van der sloot is the prime suspect in natalee’s case. Almost the entire world and police believe joran drugged Natalee and killed her. In 2017 an informant came forward and claimed to have known the man who helped Joran van der sloot dispose of Natalee’s body in 2010. He claimed that natalee was buried in a cul-de-sac filled with caucus after she died from an overdose of date rape drugs. According to him they dug up her skeletal remains, took them to a property owned by the accomplice, John ludwick, crushed her remains, and burned her cranium. They then said her remains were either buried in another location or dumped at sea. Human bone fragments were given to police by John ludwick but the remains were ruled out as being natalee after a DNA test. Joran vander sloot is currently serving a 28 years sentence for murdering Stephanie Flores who lived in Lima, Peru. He killed her on May 30th 2010, exactly 5 years to the day that Holloway disappeared. John ludwick was killed by his ex girlfriend in self defense in March of 2018 after he attempted to kidnap her. Natalee was described as a king young woman who was very talented and loved by all, she was getting ready to go to college that September but she was never able to achieve her dreams in adult hood. Her body has never been found but she is a presumed homicide victim.


Investigating Agency(s)

Agency Name: Aruba police

Agency Contact Person: N/A

Agency Phone Number: 297-587-6222

Agency E-Mail: N/A

Agency Case Number:

NCIC Case Number: Unknown

NCMEC Case Number: not listed

NamUs Case Number: not listed

Information Source(s)

Visit Aruba
I used another doe page to make this.
 
Joran van der Sloot verdacht in witwaszaak

nov 1 2018
Joran van der Sloot verdacht in witwaszaak
Joran van der Sloot suspected in money laundering case

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot ligt zwaar onder vuur van justitie in Peru. De tot 28 jaar cel veroordeelde moordenaar van de Peruaanse vrouw Stephany Flores is verdachte in een nieuw strafrechtelijk onderzoek naar witwassen. Van der
Sloot zou samen met zijn vriendin Leidy drieënhalve ton crimineel geldhebben weggesluisd.

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot is under attack from justice in Peru.
The murderer of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores, condemned to 28 years in prison, is suspect in a new criminal investigation into money laundering. Van der Sloot, along with his girlfriend Leidy, would have sold away three and a half tons of criminal money. (Euros 350k)

Dat bedrag kreeg Van der Sloot volgens de verdenking in handen
dankzij een Nederlandse handlanger, die met een vernuftig systeem online-casino’s oplichtte. Volgens justitie in Peru profiteert vooral
Jorans vriendin en moeder van zijn kind, Leidy Figueroa, van de criminele winsten.

Van der Sloot received that amount from the suspicion thanks to a Dutch henchman, who lit online casinos with an ingenious system. According to justice in Peru, Joran's girlfriend and mother of his child, Leidy Figueroa, mainly profits from criminal profits
 
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Joran van der Sloot y esposa se dan la vida de lujo con 'departamentazo' en exclusivo distrito limeño | Diario OJO


Joran van der Sloot y esposa se dan una vida de lujo con 'departamentazo' en exclusivo distrito limeño

Joran van der Sloot and wife give themselves
a luxury life with 'departamentazo' in exclusive district of Lima

Holandés sigue preso pero es investigado por lavado de dinero El holandés Joran van der Sloot y su esposa peruana están siendo investigados por el presunto delito de lavado de dinero.
El abogado del asesino de la peruana Stephany Flores confirmó a The Telegraph que Joran van der Sloot essospechoso de haber lavado 350,000 euros.

Dutch is still in prison but is investigated for money laundering. The Dutch Joran van der Sloot and his Peruvian wife are being investigated for the alleged crime of money laundering. The lawyer of Peruvian killer Stephany Flores confirmed to The Telegraph that Joran van der Sloot is suspected of having
laundered 350,000 euros.


Según este medio, Joran van der Sloot habría recibido el dinero de un criminal holandés como pago por crear sitios de juego desde prisión

According to this medium, Joran van der Sloot would have received the money from a Dutch criminal as payment for creating gambling sites from prison.

El dinero habría sido entregado a la esposa y madre del hijo del holandés,
Leidy Figueroa, quien habría comprado un departamento de lujo en un
exclusivo distrito de Lima y un automóvil, pese a que no tiene ingresos significativos.
Joran van der Sloot intentó explicar la compra asegurando que una tía estadounidense la había pagado y negó el delito de lavado de activos.
El abogado del holandés no quiso comentar sobre el caso, pero el Poder Judicial acusaría a la pareja por este delito.

The money would have been given to the wife and mother of the son of the Dutchman, Leidy Figueroa, who would have bought a luxury apartment
in an exclusive district of Lima and a car, although he has no significant income.

Joran van der Sloot tried to explain the purchase by claiming that an American aunt had paid for it and denied the crime of money laundering.
The Dutch lawyer did not want to comment on the case, but the judiciary would accuse the couple for

Joran van der Sloot cumple una sentencia de 28 años por asesinar a Stephany Flores en 2010. Además, el holandés todavía es el principal
sospechoso de la desaparición de Natalee Holloway en 2005.

Joran van der Sloot is serving a 28-year sentence for murdering Stephany Flores in 2010. In addition, the Dutchman is still the main suspect in the 2005 disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
 
Maybe it was but was removed when her father declared her deceased?

Yeah, maybe so. I just figured that with all the things that have been done to find NH, submitting her name to NAMUS would've been one of the first things they did.

Honestly, if she's been removed because her dead declared her deceased, then her family may not have wanted her to be resubmitted.
 
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Yeah, maybe so. I just figured that with all the things that have been done to find NH, submitting her name to NAMUS would've been one of the first things they did.

Honestly, if she's been removed because her dead declared her deceased, then her family may not have wanted her to be resubmitted.
She was not on Namus before this. Now there are thousands of cases on Namus where the MP was declared deceased. The casefile should be published very soon. It’s also because Holloway didn’t have DNA on file until 2017. She only had Dentals Available and because she vanished in an international location. I put Alabama as the place she vanished from. They did the same thing with Amy Lynn Bradley. She vanished in the Caribbean and is listed as disappearing from Virginia on Namus which is where she lived when she vanished. I used the FBI from Alabama as the Investigating agency because they are investigating her disappearance.
 
I think there is no chance that Natalee is alive or linked to these other cases, like Amy Bradley. I agree with Otto. We know from the murder of Stephany Flores Ramirez that he can murder a woman on a whim. He killed her and most likely they (he and his father or friends) took the body out to sea.
 
I think there is no chance that Natalee is alive or linked to these other cases, like Amy Bradley. I agree with Otto. We know from the murder of Stephany Flores Ramirez that he can murder a woman on a whim. He killed her and most likely they (he and his father or friends) took the body out to sea.
I just want her found. Sometimes I like to think that she was sold into a sex slavery and escaped. She may have been brainwashed but your right. She probably died on May 30th 2005
 
I think there is no chance that Natalee is alive or linked to these other cases, like Amy Bradley. I agree with Otto. We know from the murder of Stephany Flores Ramirez that he can murder a woman on a whim. He killed her and most likely they (he and his father or friends) took the body out to sea.

I agree. I think the only case she's linked to is Ramirez's, and that's because they were killed by the same person.
 
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