Michael Jackson ~ new accuser files

[margarita25]

Michael Jackson items removed from Indianapolis children's museum after 'Leaving Neverland'

INDIANAPOLIS — The Children’s Museum of Indianapolis removed three Michael Jackson items from exhibits this month, joining a handful of organizations that have reassessed connections to the late singer following HBO's airing of the documentary film "Leaving Neverland."

Additionally from the above link:

““When we put together exhibitions, we look at the objects and their association with high-profile people,” said Chris Carron, the museum’s director of collections. “Obviously, we want to put stories in front of our visitors (showing) people of high character.”“

Bravo!

This reminds me of something I thought was powerful in the movie (it was ALL powerful actually), when at the end during the credits we see WR burning all the memorabilia MJ have him, including THE “Thriller Jacket”—-remember MJ let him pick out any jacket he wanted...man what I would have done for that jacket as a kid...

PS: If WR was in it for the money he sure could’ve sold that jacket for who knows how much....

 

[margarita25]

So who all here knows the Thriller dance?

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I cried when I learned he got burned during the Pepsi commercial and got sent home from school because I was so upset.

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Interesting MJ fact you may not know: Eddie Van Halen plays the guitar solo on “Beat It”.

 

[gitana1]

Both men, the accusers, are hoping to sue the Jackson Estate in order to obtain Neverland and Jackson's music rights. They are money-seeking liars.

The thing is, people can be liars and greedy and stilll be victims of abuse. So no matter what you think of the characters of these two men, they could still be abuse victims.

And the facts remain that:

1. MJ dated little boys. We all witnessed this in the 80's and 90's.

2. He slept with them in his bed. Little, unrelated boys. He admitted this and even his defenders testified to this.

3. Several books containing graphic full frontal nudity of prepubescent boys, as well as photos of naked boys, were found in his possession. The most graphic of the books that only featured boys, MJ had written in, showing he valued the book.

4. Six of MJ's 16 "special friends" alleged he sexually abused them or in the case of one, sexually harassed him by phone.

5. Jackson publicly and privately groomed his special friends and their families which is a pedophilic modus operandi.

6. Jackson paid one of his accusers millions and millions of dollars settling a lawsuit against him for child molestation.

7. His accusers stand to lose money from any potential lawsuit by coming toward because as they're believed, his estate loses value. How does that make sense? And the estate can simply bankrupt out any awards against it, as it loses value. Again, how does that make sense?

 

[anonypotomous]

The police did not find anything significant during any of the search warrants that were executed on the Neverland Ranch.

Please see #3 on the post from gitana1 above

 

[mister happy]

Call me curious, but I Googled MJ's face changes over the years. He looked really good when his breakthrough Off the Wall album came out in 1979:

Michael Jackson’s ‘Off the Wall’ at 35: Classic Track-by-Track Album Review


His 2003 mugshot shows a weirdly different face:

Michael Jackson
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/celebrity/music/michael-jackson
During the Martin Bashir interview in 2003, MJ swore that he only had two nose jobs to help his breathing, and absolutely no other surgeries were done to his face. Hmmm.

 

[gitana1]

The police did not find anything significant during any of the search warrants that were executed on the Neverland Ranch.

I find this significant:

https://www.mjfacts.com/items-found-in-1993-pedophile-books-and-naked-photos/

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/011805pltreqaseemd.pdf

 

[GarAndTeed]

I find this significant:

https://www.mjfacts.com/items-found-in-1993-pedophile-books-and-naked-photos/

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/011805pltreqaseemd.pdf

This is beyond vile. He was beyond vile. JMO.

 

[CoolJ]

Michael Jackson’s music will live on for eternity no matter what. His music was beautiful and brought peace and comfort to billions.

Don’t believe the hype. The true pedophiles have been trying to bring him down for decades.

You want to see who the true filthy rich pedos are? Look no further than Hollywood and D.C

 

[Catmommy]

It is truly doubtful that either accuser would have been believed when they were boys. They and their parents would have been accused of trying to get a "payday" out of Michael then too.

 

[CoolJ]

It is truly doubtful that either accuser would have been believed when they were boys. They and their parents would have been accused of trying to get a "payday" out of Michael then too.

How do we choose who to believe?

 

[Catmommy]

How do we choose who to believe?

Not who to believe but what to believe. Follow ALL of the evidence. Believe the truth.

 

[anonypotomous]

Michael Jackson’s music will live on for eternity no matter what. His music was beautiful and brought peace and comfort to billions.

Don’t believe the hype. The true pedophileshave been trying to bring him down for decades.

You want to see who the true filthy rich pedos are? Look no further than Hollywood and D.C

BBM

The true pedophiles? What does that even mean?

 

[JaxFlaGal]

How do we choose who to believe?

I'd recommend using the "typical" WebSleuther's approach - read and watch all of the available evidence/information. I watched the documentary, the aftershow, and then countless other sources both pro and con. Cut out as much hyperbole as you can and focus on the evidence.

 

[JaxFlaGal]

Not who to believe but what to believe. Follow ALL of the evidence. Believe the truth.

Well stated, Catmammy. I couldn't agree more.

 

[gitana1]

How do we choose who to believe?

I haven't watched the documentary. I don't need to. I witnessed MJ with my own eyes grooming and dating little boys. The Emperor Has no Clothes.

I would believe any person who spent long periods of time with Jackson when they were little boys, sleeping in the same bed with him, being taken on trips and given expensive presents.

He was a talented genius. But it was exceedingly clear he was into small boys. His behavior, even the way he moved with and cuddled those children, was obviously pedophilic IMO.

People used to try to say that MJ was simply an innocent Peter Pan who never grew up. Well Peter Pan didn't buy diamond rings and cars for his friends. They didn't hug, walk with arms around each other's waists it sit on each other's laps.

Boys between the ages of 10-13 don't do those kinds of things with each other. Ever. Unless they've been groomed and preyed upon. They don't sit on each ofher's laps. They don't like to sit on adult males laps by those ages. They don't hold hands with one another or walk with hands around each other's waists. They don't snuggle with each other.

It's ludicrous.

 

[gitana1]

This is not how Peter Pan poses with his lost boys. This is not how boys that age interact with other "children" or even with male family friends or uncles, unless something is wrong:

https://www.mjfacts.com/michael-jacksons-dangerous-liaisons/

 

[MyBelle]

It is truly doubtful that either accuser would have been believed when they were boys. They and their parents would have been accused of trying to get a "payday" out of Michael then too.

It was the responsibility of the boys' parents to keep their children safe and they blew it.

No way would my son be attending slumber parties with any adult, especially one as flauntingly obvious as Jackson.

JMO

 

[CoolJ]

This is not how Peter Pan poses with his lost boys. This is not how boys that age interact with other "children" or even with male family friends or uncles, unless something is wrong:

https://www.mjfacts.com/michael-jacksons-dangerous-liaisons/
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When I was a kid I used to think Boy George was weird. I have since learned not to judge a book by its cover. Different and odd doesn’t equal monster. It is possible MJ innocently enjoyed being around children in just the way he has explained numerous times. It may not have been pedophilic or sexual in nature. The true fact is that we do not know.
I respect and acknowledge your opinion gitana as I usually do. I just see it very differently.

The joy and compassion this human being brought to this world cannot be erased through allegations. JMO

 

[CoolJ]

I'd recommend using the "typical" WebSleuther's approach - read and watch all of the available evidence/information. I watched the documentary, the aftershow, and then countless other sources both pro and con. Cut out as much hyperbole as you can and focus on the evidence.

I have seen the documentary. There is no proof these allegations are true.

 

[gitana1]

When I was a kid I used to think Boy George was weird. I have since learned not to judge a book by its cover. Different and odd doesn’t equal monster. It is possible MJ innocently enjoyed being around children in just the way he has explained numerous times. It may not have been pedophilic or sexual in nature. The true fact is that we do not know.
I respect and acknowledge your opinion gitana as I usually do. I just see it very differently.

The joy and compassion this human being brought to this world cannot be erased through allegations. JMO

Boy George never posed provocatively with little, prepubescent boys.

This isn't about "different" although peodphiles would certainly argue that it is. He romanced little boys and acted romantically with them. It's not different because we see countless men acting the very same way...with adult lovers.

I believe my eyes and my experience.

He groomed these kids. He bought them insanely expensive gifts. He took them around the world on extravagant vacations. All the whole they slept with him and he nuzzled them like lovers. This was the public stuff. Stuff we all saw. Or that he admitted.

There is no innocent expalnation for all of that. Especially when coupled with the fact that he had books of naked boys in his home and photos of naked kids, some of whom he knew.

Importantly, he lied about having such books in his bedroom. He inscribed one of them and kept them separately in a locked cabinet:

Boys will be Boys -inscribed by Jackson
“Presents photographs taken all over the Western world (Germany, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, Australia, and the United States) of boys at their most uninhibited and exhibitionistic. It is disingenuous to say that this is simply a celebration of boyhood, then or today. Yes it is, and much more: A voyeuristic recollection of such boyhood for adult consumption. Most of the photographs in the book show the boys outdoors, completely naked, swimming in the pond, camping, climbing mountains, playing games, and perhaps most disturbing today, simply posing for the camera. It is Will McBride-meets-Bruce Weber, especially the latter’s “Bear Pond”. In the carefree Sixties, this book and its predecessor, “The Boy: A Photographic Essay”, were openly published, widely distributed, and very successfully sold. The writers/editors also felt confident enough to proclaim that: “Any parent, educator, social worker, anyone who enjoys boys and the fun of boys, will treasure these magnificently reproduced photographs, and will return to them again and again. For this haunting yet happy book is a permanent celebration not only of boyhood, but of the eternal springtime of the human spirit” (Georges St. Martin and Ronald C. Nelson). Can such voyeurism really be defended? The great cultural philosopher Roland Barthes thought so. He pointed out that looking arouses and ultimately suppresses, channels a human being’s otherwise dangerous urges into viewing (instead of doing), making him a satisfied voyeur instead of a potential predator.

https://www.mjfacts.com/items-found-in-1993-pedophile-books-and-naked-photos/

The photographers/authors were known child pornographers.