CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #13

[missy1974]

I wonder if that includes Joey's green truck and all the money left in the various bank accounts?

I would have to listen again. But it sounded like all they got from Joey's family was the $500 payment, 3 rugs she had throw out (I'm sure that's what I heard lol), the flooring that was in the living room which they sold, and I don't know if anything else was listed? I don't think so. The State talked about 2 payments from Dan... but I think the defense was going off of just statements to LE, and that was what was listed from his "family".

Does anyone know how much the payments from Dan were?

 

[missy1974]

I thought it was to undermine Mikey's statement that CM pointed the window out to him. Trying to take Chase out of the picture.

It was IMO

 

[missy1974]

It sounds more like the two were arguing. I would imagine over money. Possibly the rent hadn't been paid yet?

The majority of those calls, the duration was 0 seconds.

 

[Mica]

The majority of those calls, the duration was 0 seconds.

Maybe dropped calls due to poor cell service?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The whole incident that never happened because no call registered on CM's phone, and they both just look like a common pair of liars trying to cover for each other and confuse the issue, IMO. For all we know he made that call from Joey's phone if he had possession of it by then, to make it look as if Joey was still alive at that time.

I 100 percent will never believe Joey made that last call.

I don't believe CM was at home or at the clubhouse either when 'someone' (cough cough,) used Joey's cell phone.

Imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Probably the same reason Maline tried to question Susan Blake about statements she made to Cathy Sanchez in 2010 ....something about her (SB) not expecting her family to come back.

Where the DT is headed with that IDK.

Unfortunately, I do think the DT will be able to completely discredit MM when they put him on the stand. If they succeed, the jury will have the option of disregarding all of his testimony.

Without having to go back and listen to everything he testified to, can anyone remember anything important he said on the stand?

TIA
MOO

I don't think MMs testimony will be a deciding factor one way or the other.

Imo

 

[Tortoise]

I thought it was to undermine Mikey's statement that CM pointed the window out to him. Trying to take Chase out of the picture.

Well when I heard that it sounded to me as if both could be true. It sounds like something you would say you plan on doing if you can't find a way in, but when you get there and see the open window you don't need to break a window anymore.

ETA It sounds like more confirmation that Chase won't be testifying - they're trying to challenge the state's narrative through other witnesses.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well when I heard that it sounded to me as if both could be true. It sounds like something you would say you plan on doing if you can't find a way in, but when you get there and see the open window you don't need to break a window anymore.

ETA It sounds like more confirmation that Chase won't be testifying - they're trying to challenge the state's narrative through other witnesses.

I'm afraid you are right. I really did want him to do a Jodi Arias thinking he could out fox the prosecutor's cross examination.

But now I dont feel it will happen after all.

Jmo

 

[Cricket28]

Does anyone know what the issue is with the defense's crime scene specialist Randolph Beasley's objection? It has something to do with personnel records.

 

[missy1974]

I'm afraid you are right. I really did want him to do a Jodi Arias thinking he could out fox the prosecutor's cross examination.

But now I dont feel it will happen after all.

Jmo

If he was claiming self defense like Arias tried to, then yep, I think he would have to take the stand.

The State played his first interview with Dugal/Fiske from Feb 2010...

they recorded and played a jailhouse visit from Feb 2019....

they played a phone conversation from the day after Cathy's LE interview in Oct 2014 ...

the defense plans on playing more of the 8 hour long LE interview with Chase...

That is the most we are going to "hear" from Chase IMO

 

[missy1974]

Does anyone know what the issue is with the defense's crime scene specialist Randolph Beasley's objection? It has something to do with personnel records.

I thought the objection was to his 'full' personnel file being handed over to the State, for privacy reasons. I think a certain amount could and probably should be released... if any disciplinary problems, maybe error rates, or things that are relevant. But a personnel file could include information like medical issues or other things that are not relevant at all possibly?

It was a bit unclear to me who the lawyer was that was there, was it clear to you? lol I think it was San Bernardino's (crime lab? state lab? something?lol) lawyer... so not a personal lawyer objecting. I'm assuming it's more about protecting any State employee's privacy. JMO

Since we have what feels like a year off, I'm sure I will listen to it again at some point ;-)

 

[travelbug]

Does anyone know what the issue is with the defense's crime scene specialist Randolph Beasley's objection? It has something to do with personnel records.

I don't know, but could it be related to the DNA results. Someone mentioned a while back that the DNA information from those people involved with examining or processing the bodies and gravesite would need to be matched and eliminated. jmo

 

[QueenBofOB]

The majority of those calls, the duration was 0 seconds.

Maybe they were arguing and hanging up on each other. I get calls all day long, from #'s I don't recognize. I answer and hang up immediately. It might've been something like that.

 

[Mony Mony]

Maybe dropped calls due to poor cell service?

I am not ready to wholly accept the notion that they had poor cell service. During the glass talk visit, CM asked Cathy if she remembers how bad the service was at the clubhouse. He doesn't mention it was bad anywhere else, just the clubhouse. Cathy also says CM had a habit of not answering his calls which was causing problems between them. It could be just the club house was a problem, and all the other calls were declined

 

[Mony Mony]

Maybe they were arguing and hanging up on each other. I get calls all day long, from #'s I don't recognize. I answer and hang up immediately. It might've been something like that.

Back in the day, I hit the "end" button. That stops the ringing and send immediately to VM.

 

[Mony Mony]

Oh, and during that clubhouse interview, he received TWO incoming calls. One he answered, and the other he opted not to answer. He looked at his phone and said out loud, "I don't know you".

 

[citygirl]

Oh, and during that clubhouse interview, he received TWO incoming calls. One he answered, and the other he opted not to answer. He looked at his phone and said out loud, "I don't know you".

And wasn't the first one from CJ when he answered in a sweet voice and said.....yes dear?

 

[Cricket28]

I don't think MMs testimony will be a deciding factor one way or the other.

Imo

I think you're right OBE! I sure hope so.

 

[Cricket28]

Does anyone know what the issue is with the defense's crime scene specialist Randolph Beasley's objection? It has something to do with personnel records.

I'm replying to my own post to say.... Maybe this is the reason for R. Beasley's objection....

http://www.fppc.ca.gov/content/dam/...ations/2015/May/12 Beasley - Stip and Exh.pdf

He illegally accepted $8,200.00 in contributions when he was running for office in 2014. However, according to the documents at the link above, it wasn't a malicious or deliberate violation.

Not that big of a deal IMO.
I'm not sure if that is what the objection is about. But probably.

MOO

 

[MrsPC]

Does anyone know what the issue is with the defense's crime scene specialist Randolph Beasley's objection? It has something to do with personnel records.

I have no clue why he wouldn't want his personnel record released except that he was previously employed by San Bernardino County Sheriff's office.

Here's a link to his info:
Seekfirst Forensic Consulting
About Us

These are his areas of expertise but I notice that it does not mention DNA:
Crime Scene Reconstruction

Bloodstain Pattern Analysis

Evidence Processing

Case File Review

Expert Witness Testimony

Teaching / Training

 

[Cricket28]

I thought the objection was to his 'full' personnel file being handed over to the State, for privacy reasons. I think a certain amount could and probably should be released... if any disciplinary problems, maybe error rates, or things that are relevant. But a personnel file could include information like medical issues or other things that are not relevant at all possibly?

It was a bit unclear to me who the lawyer was that was there, was it clear to you? lol I think it was San Bernardino's (crime lab? state lab? something?lol) lawyer... so not a personal lawyer objecting. I'm assuming it's more about protecting any State employee's privacy. JMO

Since we have what feels like a year off, I'm sure I will listen to it again at some point ;-)

There was another lawyer there? LOL

Yeah, I don't think this guy has a lot of skeletons in his closet. Which I guess is a good thing considering he's CSI. LOL

MOO