CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #51 *ARREST*

[borndem]

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[borndem]

I agree. I don't think this was about finances or child support. Look, the man went ape when a medical professional came between he and his child for a few moments. So much so that child services were called in.
This is about control over his child, and he wanted it and didn't want to share it with anyone. He became very aggressive with anyone who got between he and his daughter, and sharing custody would have been the ultimate loss of control for him.
This wasn't about money, it was about control. Having someone that was his, all his. Someone he owned, someone that was a part of him and he was aggressive with anyone that got between he and his child.

Good post -- I would worry if somehow he were able to get control of that little girl, control freak that he is.

People who are mean to animals, as we know he is, are also mean to people, as we know he is. We not only want him behind bars for life, we also want him away from that trusting little innocent for life.

 

[osu]

I'm not sure that fragments were found. I know that she said that.

Is The Gazette an investigative journalist media Source?

Or did they misinterpret what was stated?.

Sometimes, media misinterprets and folks from here have questioned them, and then cleared it up.

Has anybody contacted the reporter?

I have never seen this anywhere else, or perhaps I have just forgotten?

I noticed the sentence when I read the Gazette article the other day, and didn’t recall ever hearing about phone fragments being found before? I messaged the reporter asking about it but I never received a response.

 

[jewelsmac]

I agree. I don't think this was about finances or child support. Look, the man went ape when a medical professional came between he and his child for a few moments. So much so that child services were called in.
This is about control over his child, and he wanted it and didn't want to share it with anyone. He became very aggressive with anyone who got between he and his daughter, and sharing custody would have been the ultimate loss of control for him.
This wasn't about money, it was about control. Having someone that was his, all his. Someone he owned, someone that was a part of him and he was aggressive with anyone that got between he and his child.

Wishing I could like this more than once. I agree, everything about this tragedy was about control... right down to telling his lackey she “had a mess to clean up“. Now with this information about him accusing KB of abuse, we now know he was planning this for so much longer than anyone thought. All for control. MOO

 

[steeltowngirl]

IIRC, KK stated that she took what was left and disposed of it at the hospital where she worked. This is the first time I saw this reported.

Sam Kraemer’s tweets agree with you Chocoholic, disposed at hospital.

 

[iamthewalrus]

No sane person would agree to any of this.

I am guessing she has limited options in the boyfriend department... She had to go back into her past to find a guy and he was a murdering nutcase who used her as his cleanup maid. She may have had attitude when it came to Kelsey because she was small and pretty. Believe it or not, some of the larger ladies get ugly if someone is thinner... I guess it's because they wish they were thin too. Krystal was thinner at one time so I would assume she would be extra pissed. I feel bad for her husband and kids.

 

[crhedBngr]

Sam Kraemer’s tweets agree with you Chocoholic, disposed at hospital.

Shaking My Head (SMH). Unbelievable. Yet, I shouldn't be surprised. One would think the very last place to dispose of evidence would be at one's place of employment. Why didn't she break up the phones and chuck them into the gorge with the keys??

Dumb and Dumber . . ..

JMVHO.

ETA: So, any word that LE searched the hospital for the phone pieces? Maybe she disposed of these pieces with the hazardous waste.

 

[PommyMommy]

Shaking My Head (SMH). Unbelievable. Yet, I shouldn't be surprised. One would think the very last place to dispose of evidence would be at one's place of employment. Why didn't she break up the phones and chuck them into the gorge with the keys??

Dumb and Dumber . . ..

JMVHO.

ETA: So, any word that LE searched the hospital for the phone pieces? Maybe she disposed of these pieces with the hazardous waste.

No word. I wonder if she took the batteries out...

 

[Moma J]

No telling what and where KK disposed of things. I don’t believe one word of anything she has said. I hope she’s told so many lies that she ends up getting caught in a mess with her plea deal and serves more time like she should.
Bless sweet Baby K. with all the LOVE & HAPPINESS she deserves along with the Berreth family.

 

[TheVic]

“Fragments of a cellphone were found in the nurse’s front yard, consistent with where she said she had burned Berreth’s phone at Frazee’s urging.”


Prosecutors in Kelsey Berreth case want DHS records kept secret

Of course KK will say she left the fragments on purpose so that LE would find them...

 

[MsBetsy]

I noticed the sentence when I read the Gazette article the other day, and didn’t recall ever hearing about phone fragments being found before? I messaged the reporter asking about it but I never received a response.

They may be thinking of the fragments LE discovered at the Frazee Ranch. I don't think it's accurate. Imo

 

[but maybe]

Hi
First time poster.
I believe the sweater over the eyes. I think that was PF's plan to attack her without her knowing. KK mentions picking up a knotted sweater when she was cleaning. I don't think that that is a detail that she would think to put in there. I'll bet it was the sweater that KB was wearing when she went shopping earlier. It looked like a light weight one that could easily be tied. Also, I think that PF was picking up KK's teeth and in doing so one fell down a vent and he was too lazy to retrieve it. Then he had second thoughts about it and told KK to retrieve it.
When PF said something to KK about using a bat and that it wouldn't be hard (to kill with), I think that is when KK got the idea that PF had killed before. I think that he may have used that method on a dog before. Sad. Bet he was surprised when it didn't work the same on a person.
Feel so sad for the Berreth family. Not fair.
So, I believe PF did the deed. Can't stand KK. Can't understand KK.
Feel like I know some of you! Been reading this forum since November. Thought it was about time I joined in.

 

[PommyMommy]

Hi
First time poster.
I believe the sweater over the eyes. I think that was PF's plan to attack her without her knowing. KK mentions picking up a knotted sweater when she was cleaning. I don't think that that is a detail that she would think to put in there. I'll bet it was the sweater that KB was wearing when she went shopping earlier. It looked like a light weight one that could easily be tied. Also, I think that PF was picking up KK's teeth and in doing so one fell down a vent and he was too lazy to retrieve it. Then he had second thoughts about it and told KK to retrieve it.
When PF said something to KK about using a bat and that it wouldn't be hard (to kill with), I think that is when KK got the idea that PF had killed before. I think that he may have used that method on a dog before. Sad. Bet he was surprised when it didn't work the same on a person.
Feel so sad for the Berreth family. Not fair.
So, I believe PF did the deed. Can't stand KK. Can't understand KK.
Feel like I know some of you! Been reading this forum since November. Thought it was about time I joined in.

Welcome to Websleuths, but maybe. Good to have you with us, and great first post! MOO

 

[but maybe]

Welcome to Websleuths, but maybe. Good to have you with us, and great first post! MOO

Thank you!

 

[1mtroyal]

Ah, so next week he pleads not guilty and then it's on. Why the heck does it take a year? I guess he's not demanding his right to speedy trial.

And the possibility that the trial will be held somewhere else will delay things.

 

[SandyQLS]

They may be thinking of the fragments LE discovered at the Frazee Ranch. I don't think it's accurate. Imo

What fragments are these at the Frazee ranch? I don't remember anything about that.

In Exec18-111 the inventory list includes whole phones items#12, #20, #34. CBI Slater testified at the Prelim:

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
The melted plastic was described as black & clumped into small balls.@KOAA

 

[MsBetsy]

What fragments are these at the Frazee ranch? I don't remember anything about that.

In Exec18-111 the inventory list includes whole phones items#12, #20, #34. CBI Slater testified at the Prelim:

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
The melted plastic was described as black & clumped into small balls.@KOAA

Yes, the small pieces of melted plastic found at the ranch. They have been described in different ways so maybe it's possible that the writer of the article is getting that confused with what they are claiming was found at KK's home. They seem to be the only source that has made this claim so I'm assuming it was an error. Either that or they are the only ones who are correct. Imo

 

[ValhallaWolves]

Sorry everyone, this thread has been moving too fast for me to keep up 100%.

Did they ever determine whose teeth were found in the envelopes?

 

[GordianKnot]

Sorry everyone, this thread has been moving too fast for me to keep up 100%.

Did they ever determine whose teeth were found in the envelopes?

If they have, that information hasn't been made public.

 

[PommyMommy]

Delete...already answered.