CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #16

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This cross is a thing go beauty so far. This 'expert' isn't smirky and smiley right now. He is shown to be inaccurate and biased, in yesterday's testimony.

He got some of his calculations wrong. And he ignored Joseph's bank records and so he was incorrect about how much Chase actually owed Joey. He is forced to admit as much.
 
Joseph McStay feared wife was POISONING him before they disappeared claims book | Daily Mail Online

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And while he does not believe Summer was directly involved, he will dedicate a significant amount of the book to her behavior and the couple’s relationship.

He said: ‘Summer was a very self-centered, self-obsessed person with an awful temper. She really didn’t like anyone being around Joseph and the family other than herself and a very small, selective group of people.

‘Despite all the time I spent with Joseph, I had no kind of relationship with her. He would often come up and visit me and we would go out for dinner with my wife at the time, but Summer never came.

‘And when we were out she would call him constantly. He would try to ignore it at first, but she would call and call and eventually he would have to go off and deal with whatever drama there was.

‘She would shout at him in the privacy of their own home, but then put on a front like he was the most important person in the world when they were in public.

‘She would fawn over him and call him, ‘her Joseppi’. She was obsessed with the idea of being Italian and that was her name for him.

‘But despite that public front, I know, prior to their disappearance they had not had sex in more than a year. Basically, she wouldn’t let him near her. They slept in the same bed, but were never intimate.

‘Obviously that was a real problem for Joseph and he used to talk to me about it regularly. He told me when they had first got together they had a great sex life, but she just lost interest.

‘The impression I get is that Summer would use her sexuality to get attention and get what she wanted. Everything with her seemed to be done for gain.’"

Everytime I read CMs own words it makes my head hurt trying to read through all of the BS.

So let me see if I got this right..so he said Summer would use her sexuality to get what she wanted, but then turns right around and then says, she hadn't given Joey sex in over a year???!!! Riight! So which is the truth, and which are the lies? Imo both.

Gah, he never makes any sense to me.

Imo, I wouldnt be the least bit surprised this is his own story, and he's spun it into being Joey's.

Wasn't CM the one said to be sleeping alone on his couch???

It wouldn't surprise me either if he had the hots for Summer, but knew she wouldnt touch him with a 10 foot pole if he was the last man on earth.

Jmoo
 
It's not even serious is it

From Chase’s Daily Mail interview

‘Joseph was the most honest person I had ever met. He crossed his Is and crossed his Ts. He wouldn’t even drop litter, let alone get involved in anything more serious’

From the horse’s mouth, Joseph was honest, So why in the world would he encourage Chase to commit fraud fgs!
 
From Chase’s Daily Mail interview

‘Joseph was the most honest person I had ever met. He crossed his Is and crossed his Ts. He wouldn’t even drop litter, let alone get involved in anything more serious’

From the horse’s mouth, Joseph was honest, So why in the world would he encourage Chase to commit fraud fgs!

Thanks for this as I had forgotten who had said this.
 
So what? He sent a text? Could have easily been before he found out CM was stealing from the business.

Could a thousand times more easily be that he was jealous of the better partnership between JM and CM.

All the signs are JM and CM were in a better than ever partnership.

No sign whatsoever that JM and DK were in better or even good partnership.

DK threatened JM. CM never did.

No solid proof CM was doing that, but DK was the one that was transferring money from JM's business to his own right after the disappearance, as the testimonies have shown.
 
From Chase’s Daily Mail interview

‘Joseph was the most honest person I had ever met. He crossed his Is and crossed his Ts. He wouldn’t even drop litter, let alone get involved in anything more serious’

From the horse’s mouth, Joseph was honest, So why in the world would he encourage Chase to commit fraud fgs!
Funny Chase notates Joseph's punctuation, but couldn't learn from it.
 
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The fact that CM was being phased out of JM's business was verified in the trial with the testimony of SB, Joey's mother. You will find her testimony on the earlier YT videos from L&C after she testified.
So the information wasn't just from DK.

Some parts of SB's testimony casts doubt, e.g. her statement about Kathy Sanchez putting on futon cover was different from Sanchez's testimony. It could be her memory lapse or other reasons. So it's reasonable to take her account with a grain of salt. The computer forensic expert La Rock's testimony is way more convincing to me. It shows that, contrary to the baseless rumor (which appears to be initiated by DK?) that "CM was being phased out of JM's business", JM and CM were in a better-than-ever partnership. DK was the one that JM was getting rid of from his business.
 
Some parts of SB's testimony casts doubt, e.g. her statement about Kathy Sanchez putting on futon cover was different from Sanchez's testimony. It could be her memory lapse or other reasons. So it's reasonable to take her account with a grain of salt. The computer forensic expert La Rock's testimony is way more convincing to me. It shows that, contrary to the baseless rumor (which appears to be initiated by DK?) that "CM was being phased out of JM's business", JM and CM were in a better-than-ever partnership. DK was the one that JM was getting rid of from his business.
The only thing LaRock has proven is that he's a biased moron being paid good money by the defense. Period.
 
That's not the point. The theft according to the prosecution is the motive for the murders. With no theft there's no motive. IMO, the prosecution had better start looking elsewhere because they have nothing here.

The prosecution is not required to prove motive.

They like to present a motive because juries like to hear a motive, but a motive is not a requirement for conviction.
 
I still think about when Merritt told police if he murdered anyone it would be DK. What was strange no one had even mentioned murder. But this makes me think DK didnt fall for his BS, and told him so to his face.

DK knew CM had already been paid, and wasn't going to let him double dip.

Imo, he also raged against DK because he was the one who outed him to the police about his huge loan to pay off his gambling debts.

I'd like to see proof where he ever paid a dime on his gambling debts. I think he spent that at the casinos too as fast as he got it from Joey.

Jmo
 
Some parts of SB's testimony casts doubt, e.g. her statement about Kathy Sanchez putting on futon cover was different from Sanchez's testimony. It could be her memory lapse or other reasons. So it's reasonable to take her account with a grain of salt. The computer forensic expert La Rock's testimony is way more convincing to me. It shows that, contrary to the baseless rumor (which appears to be initiated by DK?) that "CM was being phased out of JM's business", JM and CM were in a better-than-ever partnership. DK was the one that JM was getting rid of from his business.

Just because he wishes CM a Happy New Year on the night of the 2nd, it doesn't mean they had a better than ever partnership. My husband wished his partners Happy New Year on Dec 31st, not Jan 2nd. That sounds like an afterthought to wish Happy New Years to someone the night of the 2nd. lol

And a lot can happen from Jan 2nd to Feb 4th. Once Chase began creating those fraudulent checks, things went downhill fast.
 
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