GUILTY SC - Five Jones children, ages 1-8, Lexington County, 28 Aug 2014 *Father Arrested*

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Day 8: Part 1, 5/23/2019

Day 8, Part 2

Adding Part 3, Day 8

 

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Timothy Jones Jr. trial: testimony underway in trial of man accused of killing his children.

Streamed live May 23, 2019

 

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New testimony sheds light on Timothy Jones’s faith and fears (with clip)
Marriage counselor said Jones told her he heard voices but exhibited no other symptoms of schizophrenia

May 23, 2019

" LEXINGTON, S.C. (WOLO) — Testimony in Day Eight of the Timothy Jones Jr. murder trial shed more light on Jones’s faith and what he says were his fears during his marriage....

More witnesses are expected to take the stand Friday morning. Court will not be in session Monday due to Memorial Day."

New testimony sheds light on Timothy Jones's faith and fears

 

[poco]

I see where Tim made internet searches regarding pertaining to the murders. I tried to google this to see what all the searches were and I cannot find anything. Anybody?

 

[poco]

OT - why is the most recent post on the last page???? Can I switch this so the most recent post appears first?

 

[Spellbound]

I see where Tim made internet searches regarding pertaining to the murders. I tried to google this to see what all the searches were and I cannot find anything. Anybody?

I don't know if you can find a full list, but a lot of it is described in this page:

The state rests in the murder trial of Timothy Jones Jr.

On Tuesday afternoon, Phipps went through the text messages and web searches found on the phone, and the log of incoming and outgoing calls made to the phone during the period of the morning of Aug. 28, 2014, to Sept. 5, 2014. During that time, there were multiple calls and texts made to Jones from his ex-wife Amber, Tim Jones Sr., the children’s great grandmother Roberta Thornsberry, the children’s babysitter, and Jones’ boss at Intel that were logged as missed or rejected by Jones.

Some of the web searches on the phone were on topics of extradition; bodies in landfills; where synthetic marijuana was legal or illegal; camping sites near Columbia and Camden, SC; and where to flee to if you are in legal trouble.

[further details at link]

 

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OT - why is the most recent post on the last page???? Can I switch this so the most recent post appears first?

I don't believe we can change the order, sorry.

 

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Live links:

Watch Live: Timothy Jones on Trial in Murders of His 5 Children

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Back at the Lexington County Courthouse for Day Nine of the Timothy Jones Jr. murder trial. More witnesses expected to take the stand for the defense today.

Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 2h2 hours ago
The defense calls Eric Bigler, a clinical neuro-psychologist, to the stand as day 9 of the Timothy Jones Jr. trial gets underway. @wis10


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
First witness of the day for the defense: Erin David Bigler, a former psychology professor at BYU.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Bigler first learned about Jones after Dr. Shawn Agharkar (who testified yesterday) sent him brain imaging. He says once he got his hands on the pictures, he says he instantly saw a "traumatic brain injury" and there were clear abnormalities found.


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 2h2 hours ago
Dr. Bigler is giving the jury an anatomy lesson on the brain, diving deep into its various systems and functions. Testimony is reminiscent of a college science class. @wis10


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Bigler is pulling out some props to show the jury. He begins to point out details on a scale model of the brain. He also brought a human skull to share.


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 2h2 hours ago
Dr. Erin Bigler is showing a model of a brain to the jury to describe the traumatic brain injury he says #TimothyJones has. @wachfox #TimothyJonesTrial

Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Here’s Bigler showing off the brain to the jury. He then pulls out the skull to show where Jones has a fracture.

Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Bigler transitions back to brain imaging, showing off a scan of Jones's brain. Based on the imaging, Bigler says abnormalities are prevalent on the left side of the brain and there are signs of hemorrhages.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Bigler: When looking at the left and right side of Jones's, the left side is more "misshapen." Bigler now showing the jury pictures of Jones's temporal lobe.

 

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Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
We're learning all about the human brain from Dr. Erin Bigler, a nueropsychologist. @wis10

Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Bigler shows off more 3-D images of Jone's skull and brain. He says the brain's development is "experience-dependent", and sustaining a brain injury at a young age can stunt further brain growth.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Bigler: Damage to the frontal lobe could impact emotional decision making and mood regulation. People with this damage tend to follow routines, but also have a lack of motivation and drive, which could lead to a personality change.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
The prosecution begins its cross-examination. Bigler tells Solicitor Rick Hubbard that he's only here to talk about Jones's "traumatic brain injury and the abnormalities found on the brain" in an objective manner.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Solicitor Hubbard brings up examples of other doctors (not hired by him or the defense) who determined Jones did not have schizophrenia. He argues that the only people who testified that he does were those hired by the defense.


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Solicitor Hubbard asks Dr. Bigler if he knew a court appointed psychologist found no signs of schizophrenia when she examined Jones. Bigler said he was familiar with the report. He testified he only consulted with experts hired by the defense. @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Dr. Bigler said those who suffer serious traumatic brain injuries are at an increased risk of schizophrenia, but it is not a guarantee. @wis10


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Bigler says you can't diagnose schizophrenia by only looking at imaging. When fielding questions from Solicitor Hubbard, he says having a traumatic brain injury increases a person's risk of developing schizophrenia, but it doesn't guarantee it.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Bigler testifies Jones has a "resilient brain" because he was able to thrive academically and work in a competitive environment. Hubbard argues that all of the information provided to Bigler were given to him by the defense, says it doesn't paint the whole picture.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 59m59 minutes ago
Here are some pictures of Bigler showing off the brain to the jury, as well as a 3D scan of Jones's head showing off where the traumatic brain injury is located. Cross-examination has wrapped up. Defense attorney Boyd Young asking some follow-up questions.

Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 51m51 minutes ago
After an hour and a half of Dr. Bigler’s testimony on the human brain/Timothy Jones, the court has a break. #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 54m54 minutes ago
Bigler steps down from the stand. Prior to the break, Bigler says he needs to put his 3-D model of the brain back together. Judge Griffith jokes "so do I."

Jury sent out for a break.

 

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Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 2m2 minutes ago
#TimothyJones - Jones's mother in on the stand without the jury present. Judge's order prohibits us from showing the courtroom when the jury isn't there.

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
One thing to note: Defense says Jones was formally diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, which features similar symptoms to schizophrenia (hallucinations, delusions, disorganized thinking) but, according to Bigler, is closer on the spectrum to bipolar disorder.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 22m22 minutes ago
Court will resume at 1:30

 

[poco]

I don't believe we can change the order, sorry.

Thanks. Just seems kind of odd to have to go to the end to see the most recent. Didn't think it used to be like that.

 

[poco]

I don't know if you can find a full list, but a lot of it is described in this page:

The state rests in the murder trial of Timothy Jones Jr.

On Tuesday afternoon, Phipps went through the text messages and web searches found on the phone, and the log of incoming and outgoing calls made to the phone during the period of the morning of Aug. 28, 2014, to Sept. 5, 2014. During that time, there were multiple calls and texts made to Jones from his ex-wife Amber, Tim Jones Sr., the children’s great grandmother Roberta Thornsberry, the children’s babysitter, and Jones’ boss at Intel that were logged as missed or rejected by Jones.

Some of the web searches on the phone were on topics of extradition; bodies in landfills; where synthetic marijuana was legal or illegal; camping sites near Columbia and Camden, SC; and where to flee to if you are in legal trouble.

[further details at link]

Thanks!

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I see where Tim made internet searches regarding pertaining to the murders. I tried to google this to see what all the searches were and I cannot find anything. Anybody?

Yeah, him doing that kind of nixes the insanity defense, doesn't it?

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Jury comes back into the courtroom. Up on the stand is Roberta Thornsberry, Timothy Jones's grandmother. She helped raise Timothy when he was a child.


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Roberta Thornsberry takes the stand for the defense. She is the grandmother of #TimothyJones (Paternal side) @wachfox #TimothyJonesTrial


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 2h2 hours ago
Roberta Thornsberry, Jones' grandmother, is now testifying on the stand in the defense of her grandson. You can watch here >>

WATCH LIVE: Defense continues on Day 9 at trial of SC man accused in 2014 murder of his 5 children


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Thornsberry says Jones's mom "was nutty", saying she would bathe Tim in cold water and feed him laxatives since she "didn't want a fat baby."


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 2h2 hours ago
Roberta Thornsberry refers to Cinthia, the mother of #TimothyJones, as "nutty" @wachfox #TimothyJonesTrial


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry on #TimothyJones' mother, "I was afraid of her." #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 2h2 hours ago
Thornsberry says Jones' mother is "nuttier than a fruitcake," adding she was never a mother to him. @wis10


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Thornsberry testifies that Tim's mother and her sister came to her house to try to kidnap Tim Jr. She says the police were called, and they were both arrested.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
She continues that Jones didn't really have a lot of friends growing up. She said Tim Jr. went back-and-forth between her house and his dad's house.
When referencing the car accident, she says he seemed to be alright.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Thornbserry continues by saying her grandson tried to convert her many times to join his church. She says he "wouldn't talk about anything else" except the Bible.
She adds when he became a dad, he would read his kids the Bible all the time and he would not let them watch TV.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry says Jones insisted that they "hid his mother away" and was upset that he couldn't see her.
Thornsberry found her at a hospital in Syracuse, and arranged a meeting.
Jones ended up meeting his mother, but he didn't want her to meet his children.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry starts to tear up on the stand when talking about the "five little angels up there."
At the same time, Jones wipes his eyes with a blue handkerchief.


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Jones, along with his grandmother, become emotional in the courtroom when reflecting on a garden Eli created with Jones' grandmother at her home. @wis10


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry starts tearing up as she recalls a memory with Eli, the second older Jones child, and says "Now there are five little angels out there" #TimothyJones #TimothyJonesTrial @wachfox

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry, shown here on the stand, is now going over pictures from the defense showing Tim Jr. as a child with his mother and father.

Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry, her husband and four of the Jones children are seen here. #TimothyJonesTrial #TimothyJones @wachfox

Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
After a list of photographs spanning into Tim Jr.'s time as a father, Thornsberry reflects on a trip where Jones and his kids met them in Atlanta. He showed up late, was covered in sweat, and was drinking more often than before. She says she felt "something wasn't right."


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry says if she knew the kids were in danger, she would not have let Tim Jr. put them at risk.
Defense now displaying a video from that Atlanta trip. Tim Jr. is sitting in a pink shirt on the couch watching his older children run around on the carpet.


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry says she tried to get #TimothyJones to let her take the kids with her because she says something didn’t look right with him but he said “I can’t be away from my babies” @wachfox #TimothyJonesTrial


Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry, “I would’ve never let him take those kids if I knew they were in danger” #TimothyJones @wachfox


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
“He’d never hurt himself, but I thought he’d never hurt his children either," Jones' grandmother said. Jones is emotional listening to her speak, but again, no visible tears. @wis10

Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Thornsberry said "it was all about Amber and the kids" after Jones got married. She says at times, Jones would talk to her and not his dad and vice versa.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
During her testimony, Thornsberry says when she suggested she and her husband watch over the two youngest children, Jones told her "he can't be without his babies."


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Questioning now shifts to Labor Day Weekend 2014, when Jones and the children were supposed to visit Thornsberry but never showed up. Thornsberry said she would never have thought Jones would do anything to hurt his children.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 59m59 minutes ago
Thornsberry said Janet Ricard, the Assistant Principal of Saxe Gotha Elementary at the time (she testified last week), called her about the children. She says he called Jones's father, and he ended up calling police.

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 56m56 minutes ago
Thornsberry steps down from the stand, wrapping up emotional testimony talking about her experiences with Jones and the children.
Tim Jr. wiped his eyes several times. Tim Sr. is also shown here.

Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 38m38 minutes ago
Roberta Thornsberry, the grandmother of #TimothyJones, testified that she asked Jones if she could take the younger children for awhile but he said, "I can't be without my babies." @wachfox

"I knew something was wrong...": Grandmother of Timothy Jones testifies

May 24th 2019

"Lexington, SC (WACH) — Roberta Thornsberry, the paternal grandmother of Timothy Jones, took the stand for the defense Friday afternoon....

"I would've fought him or called the police. I would've never let him take those kids, if I thought they were in danger," Thornsberry told the court. The grandmother said she noticed her grandson had lost weight and was drinking and smoking. She also alleged that she knew something was wrong but didn't know what and asked Jones if they could take the younger children (Gabriel, 2 and Abigail, 1) for awhile since they were not in school at the time. According to Thorsnberry, Jones responded, "I can't be without my babies."...

Before Thornsberry, another mental health specialist, Dr. Erin Bigler, took the stand and showed the jury more scans of Jones brain, pointing out his Traumatic Brain Injury. ...

**The defense has claimed that Nahtahn (6) was killed by accident when Jones made him to too many military type exercises and that when Jones found him dead, he panicked and killed the rest of the children."

"I knew something was wrong...": Grandmother of Timothy Jones testifies

 

[Kavya01]

Finally have a minute to come check, very curious about what all was testified to today. Thank you YesorNo for posting all the tweets, off I go to read 'em!

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Up next on the stand is Deputy Brian Travis, a detective in the Criminal Intelligence Unit for the Lexington County Sheriff's Department.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
As a crime analyst for the Criminal Intelligence Unit, Travis says part of his job is analyzing data and cell phone records.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Travis made a timeline of phone calls and receipts retrieved off Jones's phone. It begins with a couple phone calls from his ex-wife, Amber, on August 28, and shows a few calls to Roberta Thornsberry over the next couple of days.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Judge Griffith sends the jury out of the room for a quick break.