FL FL - Broward Co., WhtFem Skeletal UP1211, 11-20, silver bracelet, Jan'88

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Was Annette Craver Vail ever ruled out as this Jane Doe? I know @Gourami Watcher submitted her as a potential match a while back.

Annette's thread: LA - LA - Annette Craver Vail, 18, Sulphur, 5 Oct 1984

 

[Gourami Watcher]

Doe Network confirmed they sent this to law enforcement but there was no response.

 

[Alleykins]

It's possible Annette may have already been ruled out for these remains a long time ago, pre-internet and NamUs, when the remains were first found.

 

[Nancy Drew RN]

Current rule-out list:

Tammie Wilkinson
Ann Gotlib
Kellie Brownlee
Shannon Potter
Teresa Fittin
Angela Westberry
Emma Vaughn
Wendy Huggy

 

[Gourami Watcher]

With both people having their DNA "available" it's probably a CODIS exclusion anyway. I just wish law enforcement would post whether she's been excluded or not.

 

[theshadow45]

Weston Jane Doe has been unidentified for 31 years today.

 

[Birds]

First poster here, so sorry if I miss out on info but I have been following this thread for a while and thought about finally giving my two cents. NamUs looks different than last time I looked at it and I can't tell if DNA was compared by LE already, but could it be Tavia Elizabeth Bailey?

Her Charley Project page: Tavia Elizabeth Bailey – The Charley Project

Height is consistent and portrait does look similar to me (see below, shots from Charley Project and NamUs). Dates of disappearance also work, as well as age.

 

[theshadow45]

First poster here, so sorry if I miss out on info but I have been following this thread for a while and thought about finally giving my two cents. NamUs looks different than last time I looked at it and I can't tell if DNA was compared by LE already, but could it be Tavia Elizabeth Bailey?

Her Charley Project page: Tavia Elizabeth Bailey – The Charley Project

Height is consistent and portrait does look similar to me (see below, shots from Charley Project and NamUs). Dates of disappearance also work, as well as age.

Welcome to Websleuths, Birds! NamUs is not like CODIS and doesn't make auto-ruleouts. Comparisons are done manually, but both types of DNA (nuclear and mitochondrial) have to be the same on both ends to be compatible for testing. We don't have access to which one is available and the recent new changes have scaled back identifier information even more. So there's really no way to tell for sure whether someone has already been considered and ruled out unless they're already on the exclusion list. If you feel strongly about it, submit Tavia as a possible match for this Jane Doe. Even if she is ruled out, it would be good to know that a possible match wasn't missed and there would be one more person that we know *isn't* WJD.

 

[Birds]

Thanks for the explanation! I can try that. How do you do that? I don't want to email the wrong person here.

 

[Alleykins]

Thanks for the explanation! I can try that. How do you do that? I don't want to email the wrong person here.

The email address for the NamUs rep who handles a particular case is in the contacts tab for each case.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I have been trying to find even the slimmest possibilities for this missing girl from St. John’s County FL. I was scrolling through doe network and noted how the time line and age range fits with this girl. The girls name is Martha Jean Lambert and she vanished from outside of her home in St. Augustine FL on November 27th of 1985.

Martha’s Charley Link: Martha Jean Lambert – The Charley Project
Martha’s NamUs Link: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Martha’s FDLE Link: Florida Missing Person Flyer

Note: Martha’s DNA has been submitted and testing has been completed. I also noted how this UID has injuries, Martha lived in an abusive home life and was put in foster care multiple times over it

 

[sonz82]

Anybody know if Peggy alt was ruled out?
I must remember to submit this one

 

[Gourami Watcher]

Anybody know if Peggy alt was ruled out?
I must remember to submit this one

She's not on the exclusion list on NamUs.

 

[ivonne]

11DFFL - Tinze Lucinda Huels
936UFFL

 

[Gourami Watcher]

11DFFL - Tinze Lucinda Huels
936UFFL

I remember this was sent in a while back. Close resemblance but no news yet.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I have been trying to find even the slimmest possibilities for this missing girl from St. John’s County FL. I was scrolling through doe network and noted how the time line and age range fits with this girl. The girls name is Martha Jean Lambert and she vanished from outside of her home in St. Augustine FL on November 27th of 1985.

Martha’s Charley Link: Martha Jean Lambert – The Charley Project
Martha’s NamUs Link: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Martha’s FDLE Link: Florida Missing Person Flyer

Note: Martha’s DNA has been submitted and testing has been completed. I also noted how this UID has injuries, Martha lived in an abusive home life and was put in foster care multiple times over home problems

 

[chaddylex]

First poster here, so sorry if I miss out on info but I have been following this thread for a while and thought about finally giving my two cents. NamUs looks different than last time I looked at it and I can't tell if DNA was compared by LE already, but could it be Tavia Elizabeth Bailey?

Her Charley Project page: Tavia Elizabeth Bailey – The Charley Project

Height is consistent and portrait does look similar to me (see below, shots from Charley Project and NamUs). Dates of disappearance also work, as well as age.

I see a resemblance - did you ever submit Tavia?

 

[chaddylex]

I have been trying to find even the slimmest possibilities for this missing girl from St. John’s County FL. I was scrolling through doe network and noted how the time line and age range fits with this girl. The girls name is Martha Jean Lambert and she vanished from outside of her home in St. Augustine FL on November 27th of 1985.

Martha’s Charley Link: Martha Jean Lambert – The Charley Project
Martha’s NamUs Link: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Martha’s FDLE Link: Florida Missing Person Flyer

Note: Martha’s DNA has been submitted and testing has been completed. I also noted how this UID has injuries, Martha lived in an abusive home life and was put in foster care multiple times over home problems

Do you believe her brother had something to do with her disappearance? If he actually did, I don't think this is her for the simple fact he probably wouldn't travel 4 hours to discard her body. (but then then again it's straight up I95)

 

[Mysteries1974]

Do you believe her brother had something to do with her disappearance? If he actually did, I don't think this is her for the simple fact he probably wouldn't travel 4 hours to discard her body. (but then then again it's straight up I95)

No I don’t believe the brother was involved. I believe she was abducted.

 

[Nancy19XX]

This is probably a long shot as this Esther is from New Mexico, but there were enough similarities to at least throw it out there. We’ve seen stranger things! She was 17 when she went missing though, and that bracelet charm makes me lean toward someone younger. However, it could have been sentimental IMO.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Missing Person / NamUs #MP6759 Esther Valdez, Female, Hispanic / Latino

Date of Last ContactSeptember 7, 1984

Missing FromChama, New Mexico

Missing Age17 Years

Height4' 11" (59 Inches)


Esther Valdez – The Charley Project

“At the time of her disappearance, Esther was scheduled to appear as a witness in the trial of a bar owner. He had been cited for allowing her into Ben's Lounge when she was underage. She disappeared before the trial took place.”