I'm pretty sure it is inaccessible to vehicles. Jethro posted the RL dog pics to show that it is difficult to access. That seems to show only a deer path/foot trail. MOO.
Yes, that's like what I see, too. Maybe they couldn't park any closer to the crime scene because of terrain and not wanting to disturb evidence?
There is no way to get any normal vehicle down to that area. An ATV, yes, but a vehicle, no.
Well you are pretty good because that is the first time anyone spotted it AFAIK.
Agree. Unless, of course, you hear someone say, “youz guys” - then you know they’re from South Philly!
That would depend on whether his phone was on. I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of GPS tracking, cell tower tracking/pinging, how many cell towers in that area and whatnot, but what I do know for a certainty is that you can wrap your phone in tin foil and you have effectively created a faraday cage and no signal goes out or in. Not sure this perp would know that. Try it.
To where that white thing is, or the crime scene? It all looks heavily wooded after the cemetery, doesn't it?
To give you (and others) a sense of the variability of Deer Creek in both volume of water and depth I have attached two graphs that cover the range of Feb 1, 2017 to December 31, 2017 so you can see what that looks like. Both the depth and volume can change relatively rapidly. As I mentioned either earlier on this thread or on the previous thread the depth gauge was 15 feet 9 inches at the peak in July of 2017. On the day the girls disappeared the water gauge showed a depth of 3.67 feet at 2:30pm. When we see the helicopter video which was around 3:00 to 3:30 pm on the 14th the depth was 3.22 feet.
Where the white thing is, is exactly in the crime scene. They aren't in two separate places they are one and the same.
I wonder where this gauge is in relation to the sandbar. (EDIT: Jethro already posted this.) It looks like 2-3 ft. is the default depth when not taking in rain and runoff. Maybe somebody (not using a phone) could look for a satellite map with a date that can be compared to a depth gauge chart so we can see how the sandbar looks around 3.5 ft?
Way closer to the cemetery than I thought!
The helicopter video is a pretty good source reference for observing the creek. If you watched the whole video you should see that there is no sandbar above water anywhere as water is flowing over all of them. In the sequence in the video where the one firefighter is seen walking across one where the water is shallow you just have to imagine in your head the water being 5.4 inches higher on his legs. This will be the sequence where there are half a dozen firefighters and a FBI agent walking arm in arm down the creek where the water is much deeper, at least chest high on some of them. The firefighter seen on the sandbar is behind them in the background. Can't recall the time in the video for that sequence off the top of my head.
Yes, I’ve considered that and it’s certainly possible. But the new sketch implies someone young enough that I have a really hard time comprehending that he would not be aware of cloud data. But as good a theory as any I’ve come up with!
That would depend on whether his phone was on. I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of GPS tracking, cell tower tracking/pinging, how many cell towers in that area and whatnot, but what I do know for a certainty is that you can wrap your phone in tin foil and you have effectively created a faraday cage and no signal goes out or in. Not sure this perp would know that. Try it.
