Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #2

[Whiteorchids]

A lot of college women work for "Escort" services in Utah, and will arrange to meet clients outside of the service.

I just don’t understand why she would do this for money her parents live in EL Segundo a beach town in CA and is very expensive I have friends that live there. Why do so many college girls resort to this? It is not a safe way to live. There’s a lot of creepy guys.

 

[PommyMommy]

I have not seen the person's gender mentioned in any reports....it's alway a person or an individual, never a man (though I may have missed that)
How do we know it was a man she met at the park, and not a woman ?
It seems that it's being kept undisclosed.
The left driver knows, so it's not a mystery whether the person is male of female.
If it was indeed a male, wouldn't LE just say she met a male.....it doesn't particularly give anything away, the person is still unknown.

This was asked at the presser and they don't want to answer until they can confirm. MOO

 

[yellowmoose]

I am old and I follow the Call Her Daddy podcast weekly. The hosts just sensationalize different aspects of sex. They call it call HER Daddy as a way to flip the old tired “call me daddy” phrase popular with some men. It’s about empowering women to flip the script. 1 host dated a famous NHL player. Both are pretty hilarious. I take it all with a grain of salt: it’s not supposed to be anything but fun and funny. They only talk SD/SB rarely. Not much is even meant to be serious. IG is loaded with the hashtag from scores of men & women. They also get perspective from a dude friend who goes by the anony name of “milf-hunter”. I hope we can just drop the topic because I doubt it’s relevant to actually finding ML or being victim friendly. That’s JMO.

Thank you for the insight! I completely agree.

 

[LadyL]

for all the new people, am bumping Tricia's (the owner) post
also there are helpful and informative posts on page 1 of this thread

What I am want to see happen is for people to dial back the sugar daddy discussion. People are talking about it like it is a hard core factor.
Since ML has the hashtag #callherdady on her social media then yes we can discuss it but keep in mind this hashtag does not only lead to sugar daddy things. It is used to empower women. "Call her daddy" is kind of a cute way to give the woman the power.

 

[bestill]

I hope someone is really checking themselves and will contact LE and she's going to be home soon and safe.

 

[SoCalGirl]

SLC isn't a large airport - no shuttle, tram, etc. The exit from the secure part shoots you straight into the baggage claim. It also doesn't have much in the way of late night services so although she could have stopped to freshen up she probably wouldn't have been able to stop for coffee or food. The Starbucks, for example, closes at 11:30p.

It's about a 2-hour flight from LAX to SJC, so I doubt she'd want food at 2:00 AM.

 

[beagledog]

We have heard that the Lyft driver picked up other people after dropping of MacKenzie, so that's a good alibi. It's possible he drove Kenzie to the park and did something to her and then placed her in the trunk of his car. Unless the driver was picking up more people to/from the airport, there wouldn't be a likelihood of needing to open his trunk for the remainder of the pickups. If someone had luggage, he could just tell them that the latch on the trunk was broken and to place the luggage in the back seat.

 

[sueyoo]

Well yes, but I am a verified insider and I know the factual SD/SB information and where it actually came from. She does have CHD and a private instagram, but that does not inherently mean she participates in SD/DB and that's not where that information actually originates from. @Tricia kindly asked in the previous thread that we move away from the CHD and SD/SB from dominating the conversation. This topic and the original information has already been addressed in the previous thread as well.

People don't understand how big the following for that podcast is or what CHD is really about. I'm also in SLC and a student at the U who was also involved in sorority life as an undergraduate (I'm now in a graduate program) so I understand the obsession with CHD. Plus multiple of my friends have two Instagram accounts. It's not uncommon at all. One account is public and one is private. The private account has no relation to SD/SB nor does a like of CHD. People on here just like to speculate and it's getting a bit ridiculous.

 

[savedabeez20]

<modsnipped against tos>

 

[calo44]

Anyone know how long it takes LE to get phone records for a particular tower/set of towers, like a blanket search? In a recent trial (Jessica Chambers), LE was able to track phone pings of the victim’s phone as it moved from tower to tower, and then see who else’s phone moved the same way at the same time. At 3 am on a Monday morning, I can’t imagine the list would be too long to sort through if they’re able to pull it?

 

[ClaireNC]

Do you have the stats for this? Did I miss where someone posted the source for this fact? I haven't scrolled through everything on this thread so I was just wondering!

There are several good articles on the topic if you search google. Here’s one: Students and sugar daddies in age of student debt

 

[PommyMommy]

Second photo says, "This Facility is Monitored by Video Surveillance."

Ladd Egan on Twitter
This is the park in North Salt Lake where police say a #Lyft driver dropped off missing @UUtah student #MackenzieLueck at 2:59am on June 17 (she had just flown back to #Utah from #California). Police say she met someone at Hatch Park @KSLcom @kslnewsradio @KSL5TV @NBCLA #Missing

4:46 PM - 24 Jun 2019 from Hatch Park

 

[savedabeez20]

We have heard that the Lyft driver picked up other people after dropping of MacKenzie, so that's a good alibi. It's possible he drove Kenzie to the park and did something to her and then placed her in the trunk of his car. Unless the driver was picking up more people to/from the airport, there wouldn't be a likelihood of needing to open his trunk for the remainder of the pickups. If someone had luggage, he could just tell them that the latch on the trunk was broken and to place the luggage in the back seat.

If this was the scenario, I'm sure police would still be calling him a POI, which they're not.

 

[Bugurl747]

snipped for brevity

Yes, she has mentioned via SM (and I know in other ways that I won't share) that she has participated in and has interest in SD/SB relationships. This is not something people are disputing. But I think we've well covered by this point that the person she could be meeting could be a SD.

I think you may be seeing this topic pop up additionally in the threads due to other members who have not been active in the case and are just coming on board, and start asking questions and clarifications, especially now that MSM is picking up these details.

You will see a lot of repeated information, links, questions etc.on any thread here at WS.

This is not to disrespect you, Kenzie, or her family. This is just how the threads are.

MOO

 

[MassGuy]

I hope someone is really checking themselves and will contact LE and she's going to be home soon and safe.

Unless this person is living under a rock, they know that this is now national news.

It’s a matter of time until law enforcement locates them, and it’s always better to come forward on your own.

If this is voluntary, then it’s all the more reason to come forward.

If this is foul play, then this person’s days are numbered, and their not coming forward makes more sense.

 

[yellowmoose]

People don't understand how big the following for that podcast is or what CHD is really about. I'm also in SLC and a student at the U who was also involved in sorority life as an undergraduate (I'm now in a graduate program) so I understand the obsession with CHD. Plus multiple of my friends have two Instagram accounts. It's not uncommon at all. One account is public and one is private. The private account has no relation to SD/SB nor does a like of CHD. People on here just like to speculate and it's getting a bit ridiculous.

Great insight! Yes, I totally agree. Thank you.

 

[OldCop]

I just did a quick check to see if any wives in the area are reporting a missing husband.

 

[Inthedetails]

I just did a quick check to see if any wives in the area are reporting a missing husband.

find any?

 

[yellowmoose]

Please could anyone give some insight into the demeanor of the young man :20-:25?

If I recall my times correctly, Kenzie dated this guy for at least a year. They were very involved with each other and she took him to a lot of events.

 

[DAMages]

Regarding the gap between her flight arrival at 1:35 and her texting her mom at 2:01... Someone speculated on the last thread that her flight was Southwest 3235, scheduled to leave LA at 11pm on the 16th and arrive at 1:35am on the 17th. As you can see from the FlightAware link below, on that day, the flight was 30 minutes late. It landed at 1:58 and arrived at the gate at 2:05.

That to me makes more sense. Not to malign the police information, but it seems to me that the police are giving her SCHEDULED flight arrival time and her ACTUAL text time to her mom, which in that scenario would have happened the moment the plane hit the ground and she switched her phone back on.

Southwest (WN) #3235 ✈ 16-Jun-2019 ✈ KLAX - KSLC ✈ FlightAware