Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

[RobertLeroyParker]

I’m going to keep repeating my theory until it’s officially confirmed.

AA () was posing as a man with means to be a Sugar Daddy. Just look at the fake jobs on his LinkedIn and the grandiose opinion of himself with the modeling pictures.

The ruse fell apart the moment she saw his tiny house.

She probably got uncomfortable with the situation and things went down hill pretty fast from there.

I officially confirm your theory. As a poster with absolutely no official occupation or calling to speak for anyone.

 

[NuttMegg]

This is a bit off topic, but while researching on an unidentified pregnant woman, i once found a newspaper ad that reads: " Minority man wishes to meet attractive child-bearing European American woman (...)". It has a PO BOX...
This ad has been haunting me ever since. I can't see it as a friendly ad... especially with all the missing people and unidentified women found around the area back then...

I don't know anything about that ad, of course, but before online meet up sites I remember a lot of discussion about want ads in newspapers where people were breaking all sorts of new ground, ie specifying gender/species/marriage status wanted, (remember all the late night jokes on the abbreviations/permutations)......and there have always been people who got to the USA one way or another, even with green cards, who realize that if they marry an American they might be able to stay/or get citizenship.

 

[Mentalheadslap2018]

Of course they do but I don't see how they would have an exchange like that. You can't take someone by force and against their will with a text message or phone call. What do you think happened? He threatened her electronically?

Per SLC PD there is electronic evidence that her phone was almost immediately turned off after she entered his vehicle. IMO, the likelihood of her voluntarily turning off her phone, absent something compelling, is quite low.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Of course they do but I don't see how they would have an exchange like that. You can't take someone by force and against their will with a text message or phone call. What do you think happened? He threatened her electronically?

I meant that she probably planned and had every intention on going home once she landed but he was texting her trying to convince her to meet him at the park for whatever reason. LE knows as they have the exchange between them. I think once she got in the car he took her to the house against her will most likely by force.

 

[DizzyB]

Re: Dating apps, arrangements etc
No matter what your choices are, and I am not here to judge, it’s best practice to always let at least one friend know who you’re with and where. Just in case.
Many share geographical locations with friends via their phones without even thinking twice-it’s a generational thing, I think. But if a person doesn’t want to give that much info, they really need to still tell a friend.

 

[otto]

Otto, I remember your name from the Nathan O'Brien case when he and his grandparents were also burned in a pit. You did drawings of the whole house to show the different levels. That also was a sad case and I didn’t expect to hear something similar happened again. Little Hailey Dunbar-Blanchette was also burned in a pit. Now poor Mackenzie has met the same fate. There are monsters roaming around and you don’t have to be young to run into them. The Likness grandparents were in their sixties.

Yes, I followed both of those disappearances. I had a really difficult time believing that a fire pit could get hot enough to reduce 3 people to nothing more than teeth. Now I understand that if a fire burns long, it also can burn hot enough to do this. It's surprising that he did this in the back yard of a city lot!

Both Hailey and the Liknes couple were targeted by an acquaintance. Kenzie was also targeted, but only because she used social media and dating apps to find men who were interested in an arrangement. Dating apps are known to be used to lure women into dangerous situations. It's like all social activity. 99% of our interactions are with normal people, 1% are with abnormal people. Dating apps make it much easier for the 1% to lure unsuspecting victims.

 

[cat28]

I think things were probably fine after she got in his car. As a ruse to get the phone and turn it off, he could've handed her a gift or something and she handed him her phone so she could take whatever it was. It would have been big enough to require both hands. I think things went bad after they were at the house. I think he would've wanted her compliant in the car.

 

[Knox]

The military posted yesterday he was only in 6 months. Isn’t boot camp about 6 months? What a freaking liar.

He didnt complete basic training or ait.

 

[otto]

I’m going to keep repeating my theory until it’s officially confirmed.

AA () was posing as a man with means to be a Sugar Daddy. Just look at the fake jobs on his LinkedIn and the grandiose opinion of himself with the modeling pictures.

The ruse fell apart the moment she saw his tiny house.

She probably got uncomfortable with the situation and things went down hill pretty fast from there.

The cell phone silence after they met gives me the impression that she was in his control as soon as the Lyft driver was gone.

 

[otto]

You'd think the ruse would fall apart once he told her to take a Lyft to some random park in North Salt Lake. For the life of me I cannot fathom why she went along with that...

It doesn't surprise me. She made arrangements with men, and discretion is something both would want. Meeting in a neutral location, like a public park, where no one can put them together serves both of their objectives.

 

[Herat]

People make their own choices. It's not the apps or dating sites.

Yes. But apps, dating sites, etc give us access to a degree of freedom that comes with risks that are difficult to quantitate and apply to our lives and experiences.

Just as they give us more options and freedom, as we learn, they also give us more access into the darkness in the human mind

 

[otto]

You could literally substitute any activity or location and reach a similar conclusion.

Without [grocery stores] it would be much more difficult for predators to [follow] women like Kenzie.
Without [department store dressing rooms] it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to [isolate] women like Kenzie.
Without [city parks] it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to [attack] women like Kenzie.
Without [taxis] it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to [isolate] women like Kenzie.
Without [colleges]....
Without [nightclubs]....
Without [highway rest stops]....
Without [beautiful mountainous hiking trails]....

The logical end of this reasoning is that women aren't allowed to leave the house without an escort, because predators. Which...no.

Dating apps aren't the problem. Psychopaths are the problem.

Blind dates arranged through friends at the very least ensure that the stranger is a friend of a friend, that someone knows both parties. Dating apps open the door to blind dates where neither party knows anything authentic about the other. Even photos can be false.

As I mentioned, 99% of social interactions are normal. The 1% is the problem, and dating apps enable the 1% to very easily lure unsuspecting victims.

 

[Steelslady]

I hope this narcissistic piece of crap doesn't plead guilty. I want to see him squirm at a trial.

You want her family to suffer through such a trial, hearing things they may not want to hear that happened to their daughter? I know you don't, and I get what you mean. For her family and friends, though, it would be nice if he did a Jake Patterson and let the victim's family be spared such a horror in court.

 

[Steelslady]

Otto, I remember your name from the Nathan O'Brien case when he and his grandparents were also burned in a pit. You did drawings of the whole house to show the different levels. That also was a sad case and I didn’t expect to hear something similar happened again. Little Hailey Dunbar-Blanchette was also burned in a pit. Now poor Mackenzie has met the same fate. There are monsters roaming around and you don’t have to be young to run into them. The Likness grandparents were in their sixties.

Another God awful case on here.

 

[PommyMommy]

JUN 29, 2019
Who was MacKenzie Lueck? A mentor, a beach and animal lover and an empowered woman
She used to bike to the Pacific Ocean. Years later, she’d re-create those days by putting on her bikini and basking in the sun that shines on the high-altitude desert that is Salt Lake City.

As a student at the University of Utah, she expressed feminist opinions and left one of the major political parties to register with a conservative third party.

She competed on the swim team and played water polo at her high school in Southern California. At U. football games, she cheered in the student section known as the MUSS.

[...]

“She's like a nurturer,” KS, one of Lueck’s sorority sisters at Alpha Chi Omega, said Wednesday. “She's almost a mother to me. She is one of those people [who is] always cooking for you. She wants to make sure you’re getting fed. She wants to make sure if you need a drink, that you have a drink.”

[...]

The friends also started a school club on breast cancer awareness. Besides being a worthy cause, CB said, it was a way to boost their extracurricular resumes for college applications. The activism also represented an early example of Lueck showing an appreciation for women’s issues.

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Alpha Chi Omega consumed much of Lueck’s free time, her friends said. Besides mandating that members maintain a 2.5 GPA, the chapter requires them to attend a certain number of social events and participate in philanthropic endeavors. The chapter’s charity work focuses on domestic violence awareness and prevention.

The sorority also gave Lueck her social circle. A semester after Lueck was a Little, KS pledged to Alpha Chi Omega and selected Lueck as her Big.

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In one of her final Facebook posts, Lueck celebrated the anniversary of women’s suffrage. Her Instagram profile promoted “free the nips.”

KS said Lueck didn’t necessarily want women to go without bras or expose their nipples. Instead, the phrase can be used to promote the idea that women shouldn’t be shamed for their bodies.

Lueck herself liked to spend free time on warm Salt Lake City days outside, enjoying the sun in a bikini, Stoner said — not that there was a lot of free time. Besides school and the sorority, Lueck held jobs. KS said her friend was a personal assistant to a family. At the time of her death, she worked at a Salt Lake City biological testing laboratory.

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KS, who graduated in May with a degree in psychology, said Lueck appeared to be taking awhile to graduate because she sometimes reduced her class load to part time so she could also work.

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Friends say they saw no personality changes in Lueck through the years. She continued to enjoy animals. She had hedgehogs, guinea pigs and a cat at the time of her death.

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KS remembers a night in December. Lueck had been dating a man and hadn’t been spending much time with friends. All of a sudden, Lueck texted Stoner and invited her to go to a Main Street restaurant. KS said Lueck even offered to pay — perhaps because she still saw herself as KS’s Big.

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Lueck’s family has declined interview requests. The Lueck friends who spoke to The Tribune have said they do not know Ajayi or why Lueck would have been meeting someone at 3 a.m. in a park in North Salt Lake, as Salt Lake City police have said occurred.

[...]

 

[LurkingSleuther]

The interview given by the construction contractor was very insightful. It shows that premeditated kidnapping, rape, and possibly bondage months ahead of time and was just creeping for an opportunity.

Sorry if I’ve missed it, but no word from the ex-wife correct? was married in 2011 and separated in 2017. A rape allegation was brought forth in 2014 but the victim didn’t press charges.

The week-old AirBnB review needs to be looked into. Either a massive coincidence or an accomplice was taunting.

 

[Zella]

For folks asking about where to view the interview with the guy who said he warned ML about AA, I have not watched it but it was part of the live feed after the press conference yesterday. I just remember making a mental note of that so I could find it later. Have not had time but maybe someone who watched the press conference would know if it was on a specific channel's feed?

 

[PatLaurel]

I don't know anything about that ad, of course, but before online meet up sites I remember a lot of discussion about want ads in newspapers where people were breaking all sorts of new ground, ie specifying gender/species/marriage status wanted, (remember all the late night jokes on the abbreviations/permutations)......and there have always been people who got to the USA one way or another, even with green cards, who realize that if they marry an American they might be able to stay/or get citizenship.

This was an ad from 1976, San Francisco, CA. I get what you mean, it was "normal" back then that people with "issues" like lack of self-esteem or a less appealing physiognomy, to publish these kind of ads. Knowing most of the people wanted to live the "American Dream" they perhaps thought it would be easy to find someone who would accept their "issues" for a citizenship... But how many other with no physical issues but with mental issues (ex: serial killers) could lure their victims with a friendly ad?
About this specific ad, i know that this man was probably just willing to accept a pregnant woman and help with her condition... but the first feeling one gets reading it is that it's someone with "weird fetishes"... Maybe because i'm not familiar with those ads nor with dating apps. I always think there's "something else" going on than just what the person tells you. But that's just me... maybe i have trust issues when it comes to meeting people online. I think when you have nothing to hide you give your address or a phone number not a PO BOX... just like it was said here about AA... why meet in the park and not at his house? Obviously he didn't want to be linked to ML trough the LYFT ride.

 

[Zella]

I could be wrong, but I don't think the creepy air b n b review about a guest sleeping like the dead is anything but a coincidence involving a common idiom. I've heard other people say that IRL and it never seemed sinister to me, though it is unfortunate given what happened at that house.

The guy posted it on multiple reviews for other places that presumably didn't have someone burned in the yard.

He probably just thinks it's a funny review and isn't interested in leaving an original review for each place. I noticed AA's reviews of guests were the same thing over and over again--nice guest.

 

[otto]

You want her family to suffer through such a trial, hearing things they may not want to hear that happened to their daughter? I know you don't, and I get what you mean. For her family and friends, though, it would be nice if he did a Jake Patterson and let the victim's family be spared such a horror in court.

Her family doesn't really have a choice about whether this goes to trial. Since the charges mean that the suspect is eligible for the death penalty, the only bargaining chip is to remove that from sentencing options. That may be enough for the suspect to plead guilty and accept a sentence of life without parole eligibility. He may also want to tell his story about his hard life and how that should mitigate his culpability.