Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

[Thespyma]

In response to the last post on the previous thread about how he could be discharged without being a member of the National Gaurd, I think he was hired as a civilian, likely attempted to do basic training but couldn't hack it and was discharged. You don't earn the title you don't get to claim you did. It's stolen valor IMO.

Civilian contractors do not go to Army Basic Training, only military enlistees. His discharge does not mean he actively did anything bad. I have not seen if his discharge was under general or dishonorable. If less than 180 days he is probably not qualified to have benefits or veteran status in most but not all states. The discharge for medical can include anything preexisting, even shin splints, minor heart defects or ADD. We simply do not nor likely will not know about the discharge unless it is brought up in court.

 

[tmar]

Anyone think that he might have filmed Kenzie?

ClaireNC,

However as Police interviewed him several days later, I would think any videos he may have had of Kenzue, he would wipe off, in case he was further investigated.
MOO.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

There are any number of versions of his service. One said he failed medical. I posted disqualifying medical issues in the last thread. National Guard but never attended training, according to these sources.

He joined the Army National Guard but never attended training, a military spokesman said.
From: Ayoola Ajayi, suspected in killing of Mackenzie Lueck, lived a life of contradictions


Representatives with the Utah Army National Guard confirmed Private Ayoola Ajayi was a member of the 214th Forward Support Company based out of Tooele. However, he did not attend basic or advanced individual trainings and was discharged on June 10, 2015 after six months of service.

The Utah Army National Guard told us he

could not have been a member of both the active Army and the Army National Guard at the same time. The spokesperson for the Utah Army National Guard says Ajayi’s dates don’t match official records. From: https://ksltv.com/416900/what-we-know-about-ayoola-ajayi-arrested-in-mackenzie-lueck-case/

He also did a brief stint with the Army National Guard, being assigned to a company out of Tooele, but did not attend basic training or any advanced individual training, according to the Utah National Guard's public affairs officer. Ajayi left the military in June 2015 after six months "with an uncharacterized discharge for failure to meet medical procurement standards," the spokesman said.
From: Missing University of Utah student Mackenzie Lueck was murdered, police say

Basically, he never completed training, worked as IT in some capacity for 6 months before he was shown the door, imo for not being mentally sound. He doesn't deserve any recognition for any military service and only used it to manipulate others.

 

[kaen]

Whenever we are posting about this man's proclivities in the sexual realm, I feel compelled to write once again that crimes like this may have a sexual component but are really crimes of violence and power over. It is not about sex or sexual pleasure for him.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

Civilian contractors do not go to Army Basic Training, only military enlistees. His discharge negated him being a veteran but does not mean he actively did anything bad. A Medical Discharge for Mental/Psychological issues negated that. It just basically means he is not a veteran nor a former soldier. He is just himself, a civilian. I have not seen if his discharge was under general or dishonorable. If less than 180 days he is not qualified to have benefits or veteran status in most states. The discharge for medical can include anything, even ADD. We simply do not nor likely will not know about the discharge.

I understand, I was saying he was possibly hired as a civilian and decided to enlist where he didnt make it.

 

[Boxer]

His attorney (Suzanne Gustin) also represented Martin MacNeil the Utah Dr who killed his wife.
Prison death of former Utah doctor and convicted killer Martin MacNeill was a suicide, police officially rule

MOO hopeful info. Just looking at this, it seems like there is more evidence in this case than the MacNeill case.
Looks like a defense win is defined as simply avoiding DP.

 

[MassGuy]

MOO hopeful info. Just looking at this, it seems like there is more evidence in this case than the MacNeill case.
Looks like a defense win is defined as juat avoiding DP.

I don’t see her remaining on this case anyways.

I don’t think he can afford her, and this isn’t the type of case that I see her taking on for publicity.

It’s a loser.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

I don’t see her remaining on this case anyways.

I don’t think he can afford her, and this isn’t the type of case that I see her taking on for publicity.

It’s a loser.

Maybe profits from his book sales... Well, if Amazon hadn't pulled it anyway.

 

[Anance]

It doesn't matter what AA did in the Army. The only points necessary for us are: 1)the dates don't match his claims, indication of the general puffery of his self-presentation and evidence of lying, 2) he was discharged after a short time due to medical reasons.

That's it."Medical Reasons" we can speculate they are psychiatric. But it's not relevant to the present situation. Enough people have forward stating AA was superficially glib but had another, sinister side to his personality.

 

[Lillymac]

I don’t see her remaining on this case anyways.

I don’t think he can afford her, and this isn’t the type of case that I see her taking on for publicity.

It’s a loser.

It wouldn't surprise me if the money didn't mysteriously show up.

 

[Thespyma]

He did work as IT Support though. He wouldn't have worked in IT during basic training, and its been stated by the Army he never went to basic training.

They usually place those on the waitlist for a decision on a discharge in clerical or IT positions. Gives them busy work while they continue to be paid...

 

[BelieveinUFO]

I don’t see her remaining on this case anyways...............


It’s a loser.

This case has lots of holes. Just the case she would love to take and he may be out of prison in 40 years. Honestly, I don't think he can survive 10 years.

 

[gliving]

It wouldn't surprise me if the money didn't mysteriously show up.

It wouldn't surprise me if the nexus is money. Sex playing a supporting role.

 

[ochemnewbie]

Is anyone able to find the article/video where Susanne Gustin was named AA's attorney? Fox13 deleted their article.

 

[MassGuy]

This case has lots of holes. Just the case she would love to take and he may be out of prison in 40 years. Honestly, I don't think he can survive 10 years.

Lots of holes?

We have no idea the extent of the evidence, but Kenzie’s body was found burned in this guy’s backyard.

He denied knowing her, yet had pictures of her on his phone.

He is the last person she texted.

His phone and her phone were at that park.

Desecration of a corpse is an aggravating factor.

Kidnapping is an aggravating factor.

That’s why he’s charged with aggravated murder.

When he is convicted, he’s looking at life without parole, or death.

 

[Boxer]

However as Police interviewed him several days later, I would think any videos he may have had of Kenzue, he would wipe off, in case he was further investigated.
MOO.

I am unclear on this.
Do you have a time line you could share?
I thought he was picked up for questioning at the same time as the search warrant was served at his house.
While being questioned he had a panic attack or something and police took him to hospital then released when his hold ran out

I didn't think he went home in the time between being released and being arrested at his friends apartment building.

I am just hopeful he left irrefutable evidence of aggravated murder.

 

[MassGuy]

Thread closed before I could reply...

@JaneEyre ’s post:

Did not picture MassGuy as a Brit!

Carry on...

My reply:

I picture MassGuy as Tom Brady behind a keyboard- I kid you not. But I don’t “hear” the British accent as I read, which is a real bummer because I’m a sucker for an English accent! Lol

That’s good, because I don’t have a British accent in the first place.

Lost it.

 

[SandSage]

Is anyone able to find the article/video where Susanne Gustin was named AA's attorney? Fox13 deleted their article.

Fox's are gone but there is this one:
Accused murderer of U of U student assigned attorney

 

[Anance]

However as Police interviewed him several days later, I would think any videos he may have had of Kenzue, he would wipe off, in case he was further investigated.

Short of physically destroying the hard drive his videos were saved, forensic computer specialists can access or recover deleted data. If AA did film KL or other women, he mostly likely shared or even sold them. Not only leaving a trace as it travels through the Internet, but the recipient now has some splainin to do.

Just a theory: Maybe he was selling the sex videos. BDSM videos command higher prices as do most fetish videos. To further increase his income, AA could enter live streaming of what's called a red room. Here various clients pay to view the sexual content live and request specific actions. IMHO, the secret room was intended for this purpose. While his prime motivation is to satisfy his fantasies, AA also profits from the experience.

Getting rid of the mattress and replacing it with a massage table also fits because the table allows more activities. And, we know the desired final result of sadistic sexual fantasies. A red-room client can even request it.

 

[Rhenish]

Fox's are gone but there is this one:
Accused murderer of U of U student assigned attorney

So, if assigned, " is she public defender status ?"