CANADA - Lucas Fowler, Australian & Chynna Deese, American, murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #2

[Inthedetails]

Technically the Rav4 is a 4wd vehicle, so I think they’d go for something like that again, small, better gas milesge, less conspicuous, Manitoba-plated, or a tourist rental car.

A tourist could go missing for longer before authorities were alerted than a local person.

Ugh. Good point about the tourist. Hope they are on foot, bug-bitten, and hungry....with one ready to turn in the other.

jmo

 

[PaulR]

Technically the Rav4 is a 4wd vehicle, so I think they’d go for something like that again, small, better gas milesge, less conspicuous, Manitoba-plated, or a tourist rental car.

I know they make Rav4s in different configurations, including 2WD, 4WD, and AWD. Do we know the one they had is 4WD?

 

[Inthedetails]

I know they make Rav4s in different configurations, including 2WD, 4WD, and AWD. Do we know the one they had is 4WD?

Maybe it got stuck in the terrain and then they decided to burn it.

Hmmm....


jmo

 

[Seattle1]

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
Sarah MacDonald Retweeted Sarah MacDonald

Good morning from #Iskut—80 km south of #DeaseLake. Murder suspects Bryer #Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod are now thought to be several province's east, but they've allegedly left a trail of destruction behind. @BCRCMP are still combing multiple crime scenes in the area. @GlobalBC

7:12 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
#UPDATE: We've now accessed the site where that truck—driven by homicide suspects Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod—was found, burning, near #DeaseLake last week. The body of an unidentified man, suspected to have been killed by the pair, was found a short distance away. @GlobalBC

12:23 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
To answer questions regarding the above photos of the active scene, with the burnt truck that was driven by #Schmegelsky and McLeod: we're told by @BCRCMP the truck's fibreglass camper melted in the fire. The structure on the left was built by arson investigators. /1 @GlobalBC

7:21 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
.@BCRCMP tell us that us that, as investigators methodically comb through the charred items inside the truck, they are laying them out on that blue tarp to log and keep track of them. Interestingly, a burnt computer is among the items. /2 @GlobalBC

7:21 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
As for the tent in the right foreground: that, too, was erected by @BCRCMP investigators on site. They've now been securing the scene—one of several still-active crime scenes—for nearly six days. Dozens of @BCRCMP members have now travelled to #DeaseLake to assist. /3 @GlobalBC

7:21 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

 

[wmm85]

Looking at google earth, the area surrounding Gillam is so vast and remote. They could be just about anywhere. They may not even be alive anymore.

 

[Inthedetails]

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
Sarah MacDonald Retweeted Sarah MacDonald

Good morning from #Iskut—80 km south of #DeaseLake. Murder suspects Bryer #Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod are now thought to be several province's east, but they've allegedly left a trail of destruction behind. @BCRCMP are still combing multiple crime scenes in the area. @GlobalBC

7:12 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
#UPDATE: We've now accessed the site where that truck—driven by homicide suspects Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod—was found, burning, near #DeaseLake last week. The body of an unidentified man, suspected to have been killed by the pair, was found a short distance away. @GlobalBC

12:23 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
To answer questions regarding the above photos of the active scene, with the burnt truck that was driven by #Schmegelsky and McLeod: we're told by @BCRCMP the truck's fibreglass camper melted in the fire. The structure on the left was built by arson investigators. /1 @GlobalBC

7:21 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
.@BCRCMP tell us that us that, as investigators methodically comb through the charred items inside the truck, they are laying them out on that blue tarp to log and keep track of them. Interestingly, a burnt computer is among the items. /2 @GlobalBC

7:21 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Sarah MacDonald‏ @smacdonald__
As for the tent in the right foreground: that, too, was erected by @BCRCMP investigators on site. They've now been securing the scene—one of several still-active crime scenes—for nearly six days. Dozens of @BCRCMP members have now travelled to #DeaseLake to assist. /3 @GlobalBC

7:21 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Thorough tweets! She's one to follow. Thanks.
jmo

 

[enelram]

Maybe it got stuck in the terrain and then they decided to burn it.

Hmmm....


jmo

I wonder if somewhere in these boys' childhoods
either or both were into fire and pyromania.
I've notice that many adult criminals had that
in their past and the burning of the RAV doesn't seem to have an apparent reason other than maybe for the thrill of the fire. moo.

 

[Betty P]

Pictures of the Gillam vehicle taken while it was still on fire: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manhunt-homicide-suspects-bc-manitoba-1.5222924

Yikes, they were probably still in the area when that was taken. Wonder if they're still up there, hiding in the swamps, etc. There aren't a lot of trees or forests up there, from looking at Google. It's still a very rugged area, though.

From your link:

 

[Kubirai]

After finding out that the RAV4 was on fire Monday 7pm, I agree with opinions that they could have doubled back already, before police were alerted.

But so far no reports of them buying gas. So there is higher probability of them hiding or hiking near Bird Reserve.

 

[Moriarty]

Looking at google earth, the area surrounding Gillam is so vast and remote. They could be just about anywhere. They may not even be alive anymore.

And keep in mind, that vehicle near Fox Lake was found burning at 7pm Monday evening local time...over 40 hours ago and over 12 hours before the pair were listed as suspects and even known to be outside of northern BC by the public.

They could still be there in that area, but they also could be a long way from there as well.

 

[Jealoushe]

I really hope that comment about them running over the unidentified man isn’t true, that’s really cold blooded ugh.

 

[Seattle1]

Andrew Kurjata ‏Verified account @akurjata
A couple of clarifications to make on the situation in Gillam 1. A burnt-out vehicle was found approximately 70km north of the community. It has NOT been confirmed as the one that was driven by the suspects (nor has it been confirmed as not being the one driven by the suspects)

7:34 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

Andrew Kurjata ‏Verified account @akurjata
2. While Manitoba RCMP said they had information the suspects were in the Gillam area yesterday, they have not confirmed that 100 per cent, nor has anyone else.

7:36 AM - 24 Jul 2019 pst

 

[Inthedetails]

After finding out that the RAV4 was on fire Monday 7pm, I agree with opinions that they could have doubled back already, before police were alerted.

But so far no reports of them buying gas. So there is higher probability of them hiding or hiking near Bird Reserve.

The RAV4 fire was Monday? I'm lost!

Anyone want to do a quick timeline - doesn't have to be super extensive just the basics?

jmo

 

[thebedbug]

Why would they still be burning vehicles? Seems like it would hide little and only draw attention quicker.

 

[MesquiteO21]

I really hope that comment about them running over the unidentified man isn’t true, that’s really cold blooded ugh.

well i mean, randomly killing two people out on a stretch of highway who were just minding their own business is pretty cold blooded too

i've been wondering/speculating if the unidentified man had been hit by a car.

 

[Doverite]

On Wednesday morning, News Corp Australia published an article in which Schmegelsky's father, Alan, said the two young men described themselves as self-taught survivalists who "trained in war and camouflage in the woods" where they liked to go and "play war."

So possibly still up in the swamp and woods waiting for arrival of police.

 

[taylorss]

Why would they still be burning vehicles? Seems like it would hide little and only draw attention quicker.

Good question .... a headfake to throw LE off their trail ?

 

[enelram]

The RAV4 fire was Monday? I'm lost!

Anyone want to do a quick timeline - doesn't have to be super extensive just the basics?

jmo

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manhunt-homicide-suspects-bc-manitoba-1.5222924

 

[Moriarty]

The RAV4 fire was Monday? I'm lost!

Anyone want to do a quick timeline - doesn't have to be super extensive just the basics?

jmo

I think I got it all here...please correct what I may have missed or gotten wrong!

Friday, July 12- BS and KM leave Port Alberni, BC

Monday July 15- LF and CS found murdered near Liard Hot Springs, BC

Thursday, July 18- KM and BS seen at Jade City Store north of Dease Lake

Friday July 19- KM and BS’s truck found burned; unidentified man found a few km away near Dease Lake, BC

Sunday, July 21- KM and DS possibly seen in Meadow Lake, SK

Monday, July 22- RCMP stated that KM and BS spotted in northern Saskatchewan sometime in early morning this day

Monday, July 22 @ approx. 4pm- KM and BS seen in Split Lake, MB

Monday, July 22 @ approx. 7pm- burning car resembling a Rav4 found near Fox Lake First Nation, MB

Tuesday, July 23- RCMP announce KM and BS suspects in deaths of LF, CS and unidentified man

 

[JaneEyre]

Pictures of the Gillam vehicle taken while it was still on fire: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manhunt-homicide-suspects-bc-manitoba-1.5222924

Anyone know what year the Rav 4 is that they were driving? The shape of the back side window is different from mine but is the same in newer models. The body sure does resemble my RAV.