Found Deceased MO - Nicholas Diemel, 35, & Justin, 24, brothers missing, Clinton County, 21 July 2019 *ARREST*

[astheworldfallsdown]

There's not a lot of time between the phone call and the truck being abandoned in the parking lot. Whatever happened must have escalated very quickly.

 

[Dre]

It was just a little over two hours in between the car arriving and leaving the farm, It’s possible that he dropped off the car before he hid the brothers or any evidence.
What would make this a death penalty case instead of life without parole? Murder during the commission of a felony?

 

[SeattleStew]

So it looks like the brothers never left the farm?

Maybe, do we know how long it takes to drive from the Farm to where the truck was found? It's possible the brothers were in the truck when it left...

 

[indicolite22]

Maybe, do we know how long it takes to drive from the Farm to where the truck was found? It's possible the brothers were in the truck when it left...

Driving time (according to Google Maps) between the two locations is 46 minutes. I took the perp one hour.

 

[Bearcat05]

Hey Everyone! Long time lurker here, so I'm not sure if I am linking this correctly.
Braymer man charged in connection to missing brothers from Wisconsin

 

[GordianKnot]

WATCH: 4:30 P.M.: BREAKING: Death investigation underway in missing brothers case

SABBM:

“We don’t know what’s going on. There are a lot of things that don’t add up, and obviously very, very concerned about it,” Rob Krull, the brothers’ cousin, told KMBC. “We knew something was up when they weren’t answering their phones after a couple of hours.”

 

[SeattleStew]

Driving time (according to Google Maps) between the two locations is 46 minutes. I took the perp one hour.

Thank you @indicolite22. Not looking too good is it? I do wonder if stopped along the way to hide evidence.

 

[muppethead]

The probable cause statement says GPS route information pulled from the truck's black box shows the vehicle left the brothers' hotel at 8:55 am. It arrived at Nelson's property, where he conducts his farm operations, at 9:26 am. The vehicle left the farm property at 11:44 am and arrived at the park-and-ride lot at 12:45 pm.

Search for missing Shawano Co. brothers continues with Friday update coming

Thinking back, they spoke to someone they work with at about 11. So the window is short.

 

[therion20]

Emily Holwick KMBC on Twitter

Clinton County Sheriff says the search for missing Wisconsin brothers is now a “death investigation.” They are still actively searching and did not say what evidence lead them to that determination.
@kmbc

 

[indicolite22]

Thank you @indicolite22. Not looking too good is it? I do wonder if *** stopped along the way to hide evidence.

If he stopped, we would have another search area. I'd like to know how he got back home. Was the person who picked him up an accomplice?

 

[oceanverde]

I was just about to say the same thing - how did he get home? He would have had to had an accomplice unless he could call for a taxi or ride share service (doubtful given the area but you never know).

I suppose someone could have picked him up without being an accomplice.

 

[Dre]

“It has changed from a missing person’s case into a death investigation,” Caldwell County Sheriff Jerry Galloway said.

An employee for the brothers told me he spoke with them on the phone at 11 and everything seemed fine.”

Braymer man charged in connection to missing brothers from Wisconsin



What a disgusting, loathsome young fool.

 

[Valiant]

Does anyone have farming experience? It's my understanding that a burn pit on a farm is actually fairly commonplace for that setting. Is there any veracity to that?

Both my grandparents had farms. There were burn piles on both. The brush and tree limbs that came from clearing out fence lines were burned there. Big stuff became firewood, but the small stuff was burn pile. And maybe a wiener roast if the weather was cool.

 

[Gardenista]

Hey Everyone! Long time lurker here, so I'm not sure if I am linking this correctly.
Braymer man charged in connection to missing brothers from Wisconsin

You linked it perfectly. TY for joining us

 

[GordianKnot]

Missouri Sheriff: Missing Wisconsin brothers case now death investigation

SABBM:
HOLT, Mo. (CBS 58) -- Clinton County Sheriff Larry Fish announced in a news conference Friday that a case involving two missing Wisconsin brothers has been changed from a missing persons case to a death investigation.

"At this time we're still actively working, it's very methodical, very detailed searching," Sheriff Fish said. "It has changed from a missing persons case over to a death investigation."

Sheriff Fish also stated that a suspect is in custody.
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Very sad news.

For LE to go ahead and announce this means ND and JD are in fact gone, and will not be coming back to their families.

JN may give up the location of their bodies in exchange for the death penalty being taken off the table.

Hopefully, LE can locate them without needing his help.
That way, they can go ahead and charge him with capital crimes.
He doesn't deserve any deals.

JMO.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

In the Life After Leavenworth YT video he makes it sound like he committed fraud out of necessity, since the business was losing money, he went into debt and the cattle would be starving if he didn't sell some of them.

Any good business would know they didn’t have the funds to operate long before they were in a dire situation. He knew he didn’t have the funds to sustain his cattle operation. He knew what he was doing when he committed fraud. He was just hoping he wouldn’t get caught or punished. I’m glad he was charged in federal court and spent time for his crimes.
jmo

 

[SuziQ]

Hey Everyone! Long time lurker here, so I'm not sure if I am linking this correctly.
Braymer man charged in connection to missing brothers from Wisconsin

Emily Holwick KMBC on Twitter

Clinton County Sheriff says the search for missing Wisconsin brothers is now a “death investigation.” They are still actively searching and did not say what evidence lead them to that determination.
@kmbc

saying a prayer for the brothers and their families.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Missouri Sheriff: Missing Wisconsin brothers case now death investigation

SABBM:
HOLT, Mo. (CBS 58) -- Clinton County Sheriff Larry Fish announced in a news conference Friday that a case involving two missing Wisconsin brothers has been changed from a missing persons case to a death investigation.

"At this time we're still actively working, it's very methodical, very detailed searching," Sheriff Fish said. "It has changed from a missing persons case over to a death investigation."

Sheriff Fish also stated that a suspect is in custody.
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Very sad news.

He may give up the location of their bodies in exchange for the death penalty being taken off the table.

Hopefully, LE can locate them without needing his help and charge him with capital crimes.

JMO.

Prayers to the Diemel family.

 

[therion20]

William Joy on Twitter


According to charging documents, the GPS information from the brothers truck shows them arriving at the farm at 9:30. The truck left the farm at 11:44. An employee for the brothers told me he spoke with them on the phone at 11 and everything seemed fine (
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[therion20]

William Joy on Twitter

Surveillance video from Polo shows the truck there around 12:15 but with no one in the passenger seat. It was parked in the commuter lot in Holt by 12:45. According to the charging document, Nelson says he admitted to leaving the car there (
@kmbc
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