Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

[overthemoon]

Could I ask .... is Malaysia a popular vacation spot for Europeans?

Yes. In fact, the whole region of South East Asia.

Bukit Aman CID chief Datuk Huzir Mohamed was also earlier spotted at the Pantai police station and the resort where a temporary search and rescue operation base has been set up.
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He said Nora Anne’s parents, Sebastian Quoirin and Meabh Quoirin, flew to Malaysia from two separate destinations.

“The father arrived with Nora Anne and her siblings from London while her mother came from Singapore.

“Both of them arrived at KLIA Terminal 3 within a 30-minute difference,” he said.

Missing Irish teen: CID team checks phone logs, emails exchange made from resort in Seremban | Malay Mail

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[Alyce]

Police chief Datuk Mohamad Mat Yusop told Malaysian publication The Star that Ms Quoirin's voice was used first as she is closest to Nora.

He also said the missing 15 yr old's family members are not part of the search operations for security reasons.

Nora Quoirin search crews statement after 'footprints spotted in forest'

 

[Simply Southern]

I’m from Northern Ireland, Belfast - where Nora’s mother is from! It’s getting a lot of attention here, I’d even say more so than mainland UK.

Happy for all the attention!!! Keep it up!!!

 

[truthfinder34]

In your experience (I have none), what's the likelihood that someone with impairments would know to stay put and not keep moving? Realizing of course that not all impairments are of the same severity!

From my experience logical thinking is often impaired. Without knowing Nora it is hard to say how she would react in this kind of situation. I hope her survival instinct kicks in and more importantly given the climate I hope she is able to find a clean/ish water source. I've read that when humans are lost we tend to naturally walk in circles, let's hope this is the case for Nora and she hasn't travelled far.

It concerns me that Nora could have been spooked by the previous calls from the search teams, the recordings from her mum are an excellent idea. They could also play songs or tv programmes from a fixed speaker to entice Nora to a particular spot. Again without knowing Nora I dont know her mental capacity. She is in a strange environment which could make her act out of character.

 

[Rosegold68]

We are nearly a week in with zero traces

I think the cadaver dogs would be a good call

Those saying it’s unlikely to be an abduction? Then I’d ask, of all abductions taken place over the years, his many of those have also been thought of as ‘unlikely’.... and what makes an abduction more likely?

I’d say the same about parental involvement too. How many cases have shocked us over the years.... here on the internet we are in no place to rule out anything....at police ha they are the ones with all the evidence and facts. Not us

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[Rosegold68]

Are we allowed to post links to pages related to mums job- does explain why she flew in from singapore.

Surely not.

 

[Suglo]

It’s not personal information, nor negative information. But I won’t post- will just say a quick search on google she is well respected worldwide through her job.

No we are not allowed to sleuth the family even if it’s something simple and not negative.

 

[Mercsw]

Maybe just me but I'd rather she had just wandered off than been taken by someone. That wouldn't have a good ending either. But I guess it's remotely possible she could still be alive if she'd wandered off.

I’ve spent time hiking in the tropics. Not Malakka but other jungles. It’s stifling hot, dense, a little frightening and easy to get lost even with knowledge and guides. We wandered into a huge waterfall in error as the river appeared from nowhere...no banks or noise, just one minute jungle, one minute fast flowing river. A girl with learning difficulties is not going to thrive with no appropriate clothing, food, water or survival knowledge for a week.

It sounds harsh but an abduction increases her chances.

 

[overthemoon]

I’ve spent time hiking in the tropics. Not Malakka but other jungles. It’s stifling hot, dense, a little frightening and easy to get lost even with knowledge and guides. We wandered into a huge waterfall in error as the river appeared from nowhere...no banks or noise, just one minute jungle, one minute fast flowing river. A girl with learning difficulties is not going to thrive with no appropriate clothing, food, water or survival knowledge for a week.

It sounds harsh but an abduction increases her chances.

Concur 100%.

 

[Ruthbullock]

I’ve spent time hiking in the tropics. Not Malakka but other jungles. It’s stifling hot, dense, a little frightening and easy to get lost even with knowledge and guides. We wandered into a huge waterfall in error as the river appeared from nowhere...no banks or noise, just one minute jungle, one minute fast flowing river. A girl with learning difficulties is not going to thrive with no appropriate clothing, food, water or survival knowledge for a week.

It sounds harsh but an abduction increases her chances.

I am sadly in agreement

 

[?mysterian?]

Are we allowed to post links to pages related to mums job- does explain why she flew in from singapore.

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bessie, Sep 23, 2015Report
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bessie, Sep 23, 2015Report
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See reading that, I can’t find that it wouldn’t be ok- but will leave it x

 

[Summer66]

totally agree - nothing can be ruled out at the moment.

We are nearly a week in with zero traces

I think the cadaver dogs would be a good call

Those saying it’s unlikely to be an abduction? Then I’d ask, of all abductions taken place over the years, his many of those have also been thought of as ‘unlikely’.... and what makes an abduction more likely?

I’d say the same about parental involvement too. How many cases have shocked us over the years.... here on the internet we are in no place to rule out anything....at police ha they are the ones with all the evidence and facts. Not us

I expect this will be deleted for being off topic or as ‘bickering’ or something

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Is it me or is it getting hot in here?

 

[AnnesCuthberts]

I can’t copy paste as I’m on my phone but lucie Blackman trust have tweeted a statement from the family telling us more about Nóra as a person along with her form of disability. I’m now extra worried for Nóra and can understand the parents concerns even more. Be safe Nóra please x

 

[Spyder84]

From the Lucie Blackman Trust Facebook page

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

The family of Nóra Quoirin, 15, whose mother Meabh is from Belfast and whose father Sebastien is French, have today released the following statement.

Lucie Blackman Trust

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[Skigh]

I can understand why her parents insist she has been abducted.
It sounds as if she would have been unable to walk far into the jungle over uneven ground.

 

[Jealoushe]

Ugh reading about that makes it seem even less likely she went on her own, but if she did, it would be very easy for her to be in danger although I can't imagine she would make it that far.

 

[Suglo]

From the Lucie Blackman Trust Facebook page

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

The family of Nóra Quoirin, 15, whose mother Meabh is from Belfast and whose father Sebastien is French, have today released the following statement.

Lucie Blackman Trust

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Doesn’t compute. If this is all true then someone had to come into the house, go upstairs and carry her out without making noise or waking a single person in that house. I just don’t see that happening. So confusing

 

[tara83]

Oh dear.It sounds like poor Nora has severe limitations and if she left on her own it's hard to see her getting far at all.